[Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

[Little Witt]

Spiesr, what does your little code mean?

Hippo, in what way are you sticking out your neck?

Betiko, when we are recruited into the cult, it tells you the other members. I knew Jak recruited me. Commander knew that me and Jak recruited him. Vodean and the rest of us never had a chance to talk. We didn't have a daytalk. All that happened was me and Comm spoke and then commander said he was going to recruit vodean.

vote spiesr

codes are asking for death.

Witt now knows who his target is ... do you really think I will last tonight if Witt survives today?

I agree that you are in a dangerous position. How is that you sticking your neck out as opposed to rishaed busting you?

Oh, I get your point. Rishaed did not know that I am known by various names - including the name Hastur which Witt was confused about. Rishaed did some, I did some - you make your mind up - but the die is definitely cast now!

But hippo you forget, I don't have ANY powers. I can't kill anyone through night, only by lynch can I do anything to anyone.

[rishaed]

I'm Not buying this ^ He's Ctluthu for pity's sake, you've got to have some sort of powers, even if its an exact mirror of Hippo's just with a different Win Condition (killing Hastur). vote LittleWitt. Honestly, it might have turned out differently for you without these rolecop'ing aliens.

[Kanin Usagi]

I'm Not buying this ^ He's Ctluthu for pity's sake, you've got to have some sort of powers, even if its an exact mirror of Hippo's just with a different Win Condition (killing Hastur). vote LittleWitt. Honestly, it might have turned out differently for you without these rolecop'ing aliens.

Those darn aliens. >_>

Anyway, I will reiterate my earlier point: Lynch little Witt. If we still haven't end game'd then we lynch Hippo. And whoever has the necronomicon, please don't let it fall into the wrong hands!

[betiko]

there is something wrong about all this... Not sure I buy that revivers and aliens are there purely to help town. This makes the game way too unballanced for the gods... What are the chances for the gods seriously? revivers keep on reviving undead everyday and no one would take the chance to worship the gods. The gods couldn't reveal themselves before in the game, how could they get followers?

[thehippo8]

there is something wrong about all this... Not sure I buy that revivers and aliens are there purely to help town. This makes the game way too unballanced for the gods... What are the chances for the gods seriously? revivers keep on reviving undead everyday and no one would take the chance to worship the gods. The gods couldn't reveal themselves before in the game, how could they get followers?

Nah, you are mixing up western religion with Lovecraftian mythos - in the former gods need humans to be meaningful - in the latter (mythos) the outer gods can be controlled by humans for humans own end. Sure that may be summing up Lovecraftian mythos a bit bluntly, but you can't ignore Meta by replacing it with faulty irrelevant Meta.

[new guy1]

We are not here to help purely town. We are here to survive. We chose to help the town because we find it as the best way for survival.

[betiko]

there is something wrong about all this... Not sure I buy that revivers and aliens are there purely to help town. This makes the game way too unballanced for the gods... What are the chances for the gods seriously? revivers keep on reviving undead everyday and no one would take the chance to worship the gods. The gods couldn't reveal themselves before in the game, how could they get followers?

Nah, you are mixing up western religion with Lovecraftian mythos - in the former gods need humans to be meaningful - in the latter (mythos) the outer gods can be controlled by humans for humans own end. Sure that may be summing up Lovecraftian mythos a bit bluntly, but you can't ignore Meta by replacing it with faulty irrelevant Meta.

I'm not sure you understand what I mean. revivers, town, unaligned and yith seem to have no conflicts of interest and killing all gods seems the way to go for us all to win. I'm just saying that it looks a bit too easy for us all and unballanced for gods.
Witt, did you not try to kill hippo last night?

Can we prod soundman? If players are revived from their grave with an apparently important role it's too bad we hear nothing from him in all day.
Or if people show up to replace others it would be cool if it wasn't only for the opportunity of getting a medal and be as active as the predecessor...

[Little Witt]

there is something wrong about all this... Not sure I buy that revivers and aliens are there purely to help town. This makes the game way too unballanced for the gods... What are the chances for the gods seriously? revivers keep on reviving undead everyday and no one would take the chance to worship the gods. The gods couldn't reveal themselves before in the game, how could they get followers?

Nah, you are mixing up western religion with Lovecraftian mythos - in the former gods need humans to be meaningful - in the latter (mythos) the outer gods can be controlled by humans for humans own end. Sure that may be summing up Lovecraftian mythos a bit bluntly, but you can't ignore Meta by replacing it with faulty irrelevant Meta.

I'm not sure you understand what I mean. revivers, town, unaligned and yith seem to have no conflicts of interest and killing all gods seems the way to go for us all to win. I'm just saying that it looks a bit too easy for us all and unballanced for gods.
Witt, did you not try to kill hippo last night?

Can we prod soundman? If players are revived from their grave with an apparently important role it's too bad we hear nothing from him in all day.
Or if people show up to replace others it would be cool if it wasn't only for the opportunity of getting a medal and be as active as the predecessor...

No didn't, I am unable to try anything of that sort at all!

[betiko]

why would hippo have a 1 shot bulletproof against gods if it wasn t to protect his ass vs you who need to kill him? you are the only one who could make this ability usefull.

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Sorry for not being here, I've been feeling a bit sick for the past few days, I'll try to get to a vote count and anything else that needs to be done tomorrow.

PS: not sure it it's relevant atm, but earlier chap wanted to say he's still reading up, and hadn't posted so as not to lose place in the thread.

[Little Witt]

why would hippo have a 1 shot bulletproof against gods if it wasn t to protect his ass vs you who need to kill him? you are the only one who could make this ability usefull.

Because I need followers to unlock my ability to hurt Hippo. Does that help? I guess that is why there are so many JOAT humans.

[Kanin Usagi]

why would hippo have a 1 shot bulletproof against gods if it wasn t to protect his ass vs you who need to kill him? you are the only one who could make this ability usefull.

Because I need followers to unlock my ability to hurt Hippo. Does that help? I guess that is why there are so many JOAT humans.

Well that's... odd. Does this mean that Hippo needs followers as well? That makes me think that Hippo STILL hasn't been completely forward to us.

[betiko]

why would hippo have a 1 shot bulletproof against gods if it wasn t to protect his ass vs you who need to kill him? you are the only one who could make this ability usefull.

Because I need followers to unlock my ability to hurt Hippo. Does that help? I guess that is why there are so many JOAT humans.

Well that's... odd. Does this mean that Hippo needs followers as well? That makes me think that Hippo STILL hasn't been completely forward to us.

well that was my concern before. I doubt gods wouldn't be looking for followers, and I don't see how they could manage to get some. Unless they have helpers! Like revivers could be in reality helping a god, yith another god, black brotherhood another god. They are a bit all by themselves and pretty fragile creatures according to what they say...

[new guy1]

I would like to say right now, we are not working with either god. I dont feel like we were even in the same book as them, so how could we even be associated with them?

[new guy1]

Sorry for the double, but also it would make no since. Revivers helping one god, 2 people, black brother hood another, 1 person who can recruit, and then yith helping another, they can basically read minds and take votes as long as they are in their bodies. I would hope that everyone found it hard to believe that the gods would have such diverse servants. Especially since my race has proven quite a bit more useful (IMO) and would have killed the balance very quickly. We also inhabited one of the revivers, and so if we wanted to we could have gotten him killed as soon as they were outed. I feel like that is the whole point of the picking a god to worship ability. They need you to pick between those two. Also, the elder things might have been another faction type deal in this struggle, since they originally held the necronomicon. Your theory makes no since betiko, because I also conscientiously went to my own, voteless body. If I were trying to influence this at all, why would I do that and why would I stand aside and let the town take their pick and not try to influence them at all?

[Nendreel]

well that was my concern before. I doubt gods wouldn't be looking for followers, and I don't see how they could manage to get some. Unless they have helpers! Like revivers could be in reality helping a god, yith another god, black brotherhood another god. They are a bit all by themselves and pretty fragile creatures according to what they say...

Who have I been helping again?
Jak? Considering how Day 5 went down...
Witt? The guy who I'm currently wanting lynched?
Hippo? Who was trying to throw suspicion on me earlier in the game?

If I'm trying to help any of them, they may want me to stop helping.

You should also realize that if your theory were true, that it would be 13 town (including the YoshiJOATs) to 13 gods (with helpers), one of whom is also a recruiter. That's beyond unbalanced.

You may want to ease up on the paranoia Betiko.

[Iron Butterfly]

Vote Little Witt

[jonty125]

I think that's a hammer??

[soundman]

Ah, finally caught up! I had to read more than 60 pages!

I'm not undead, I'm my normal self so Nendreel is telling the truth about his role. Since I died so early on in the game I'm unsure as to what effects my role can have. All I know is that something good happens to me/given to me every night while asleep.

Vote Little Witt. All I've been able to read (Google) tells me that Cthulhu is the main bad guy. So we shouldn't keep him around.

[Nendreel]

Ah, finally caught up! I had to read more than 60 pages!

Sorry about that.

[Little Witt]

I wish you guys would look at what I'm telling. I am not a threat to anyone right now, including hippo. I can't do any harm to anyone and only will be able to bother hippo IF I get enough followers, and most likely no one would like to follow me so that they would be not connected, but that prob won't show unless they got lynched so that's their chose Like I said, I am not a threat and I won't be any time soon. And whose to say that Hippo needs the book to get unlock his powers to harm me. You guys would be doing him a favor and eliminate his enemy for him. Hense, Hippo wins. I do not believe for a second that hippo's wc is to simply get the book. I think it goes much deeper than that. He is a god for crying out loud! that is a freaken easy wc to get for someone so important!!!! And as you guys can see, hippo has been hiding important info from us on purpose. I see this as a stalemate.

[pancakemix]

Vote Little Witt

Reasons:

1. Cthulhu. Bad.
2. That's where my partner is. If no one else, I owe it to him to stand by.
3. I'm not about to hold up the game by not voting. Popular opinion seems to be going that way, I may as well go that way too. Bandwagoning? Sure, but I'm a non factor. If you want Witt lynched, just roll with it.
4. This is directed at Witt: I think you're probably right that hippo is lying/holding back. But you probably are too. You both have motivations that are of no consequence to humans. You only want their support, and if they had chosen to worship you you'd have it. Most everyone seems unaligned at this point though, so I think you're SOL on that one.

[rishaed]

PMC by my count just hammer'd. Let's see what happens.

[safariguy5]

If hippo needs the necronomicon in order to win/gain power, then we still have time. Witt we can deal with now (I never trust Cthulu) and we can decide if we want to take out hippo tomorrow.

unvote vote Little Witt

[Little Witt]

If hippo needs the necronomicon in order to win/gain power, then we still have time. Witt we can deal with now (I never trust Cthulu) and we can decide if we want to take out hippo tomorrow.

unvote vote Little Witt

But you guys don't understand! For all we know, hippo's wc is to kill me. you guys will give him the win!