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Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:22 amby Iron Butterfly
betiko wrote:Iron Butterfly wrote:I do not see how the game can be played that way. I am day six. I find it hard to believe that I can be lynched or nite killed but still come back before day 6.
Town could be night..some would have to be. Right now the theory is still based on circumstantial evidence. We do not know if mafia did something to save PCM, which is also a possibility.
well, i think your comments are starting to be all quite odd, I wonder why you are trying to missguide us like that. Doom clearly said it would create a paradox implicitely confirming this theory is correct. You've aknoledged that (wanting to try the paradox) and suddenly since a page or 2 you are playing dumb as if someone had to save pcm in order for him to be alive before his death...
tell me how it would create a paradox if it was just a simple mechanics game. Do you see anything in the scene that could make you believe pcm was saved by someone??
And of course all town are not days, some have to be "night" (this has been agreed a long time ago.. there isn't going to be 7 town and 6 scums, and it would be way too simple in case of mass nameclaim) but i don't see what it has to do with the rest of this kill/paradox conversation. NOS and NG1 softclaimed night by the way which is a huge help for scums.
Im not going to get into a pissing contest with you. Watch your wording! You say I am trying to "misguide", which implies I have an agenda against Town. I have been thinking out loud as I always do. I have no idea what the mechanics all I can do is theorize.
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:22 pmby ghostly447
Iron Butterfly wrote:betiko wrote:Iron Butterfly wrote:I do not see how the game can be played that way. I am day six. I find it hard to believe that I can be lynched or nite killed but still come back before day 6.
Town could be night..some would have to be. Right now the theory is still based on circumstantial evidence. We do not know if mafia did something to save PCM, which is also a possibility.
well, i think your comments are starting to be all quite odd, I wonder why you are trying to missguide us like that. Doom clearly said it would create a paradox implicitely confirming this theory is correct. You've aknoledged that (wanting to try the paradox) and suddenly since a page or 2 you are playing dumb as if someone had to save pcm in order for him to be alive before his death...
tell me how it would create a paradox if it was just a simple mechanics game. Do you see anything in the scene that could make you believe pcm was saved by someone??
And of course all town are not days, some have to be "night" (this has been agreed a long time ago.. there isn't going to be 7 town and 6 scums, and it would be way too simple in case of mass nameclaim) but i don't see what it has to do with the rest of this kill/paradox conversation. NOS and NG1 softclaimed night by the way which is a huge help for scums.
Im not going to get into a pissing contest with you. Watch your wording! You say I am trying to "misguide", which implies I have an agenda against Town. I have been thinking out loud as I always do. I have no idea what the mechanics all I can do is theorize.
@IB, If you dont see a way someone could still be alive before the time of their lynch, how do you explain how PCM is still active? He was lynched on your day, 6, and now we have come to Day 2 where he lives. Greg was lynched Day 1 and is perma lynched because there is no way to return to such a day, If you were to be lynched today, then vodean killed on (what we assume it would jump to) Night 6, then you would possibly be alive on Day 2, but since that has not occurred prior to this, we dont know. Do you understand now? FOS on you because you seemed to have been getting it a bit earlier in the game. Now even when I wasnt quite clear you are trying to play games.
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:04 pmby vodean
vote IB
i noticed IB's strange behavior earlier. his "thinking out loud" is not helping town, regardless of intentions. therefore, i think he should be pressured into explaining more thoroughly/claiming.
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:31 pmby Iron Butterfly
vodean wrote:vote IB
i noticed IB's strange behavior earlier. his "thinking out loud" is not helping town, regardless of intentions. therefore, i think he should be pressured into explaining more thoroughly/claiming.
I have already claimed you fool. I have nothing to explain. The only thing I am guilty of is speculation.
You claim my thinking out loud is not helping Town?? My thinking out loud is what nailed our first Mafia on day one.
This is a very frustrating game for a variety of reasons. Disagreeing with my theories does not make me scum.
So tell me Vodean what exactly have you done to help Town? What exactly is "strange"' about my behavior that warrants a vote?
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:35 pmby NoSurvivors
Iron Butterfly wrote:vodean wrote:vote IB
i noticed IB's strange behavior earlier. his "thinking out loud" is not helping town, regardless of intentions. therefore, i think he should be pressured into explaining more thoroughly/claiming.
I have already claimed you fool. I have nothing to explain. The only thing I am guilty of is speculation.
You claim my thinking out loud is not helping Town?? My thinking out loud is what nailed our first Mafia on day one.
This is a very frustrating game for a variety of reasons. Disagreeing with my theories does not make me scum.
So tell me Vodean what exactly have you done to help Town? What exactly is "strange"' about my behavior that warrants a vote?
I dont think IB has been scummy this game, plus yeah, he pegged GW day 1 by doing the exact same thing he did now. However, IB you said you were day 6, thats not a claim, that's a name claim lol.. just thought i should point that out.
betiko wrote: I stay on NOS who seem far from his meta in my opinion.
What? I'm pretty sure I am normally a smart ass who doesn't contribute much unless he is 110% sure he knows who the mafia is, or if he is pressured. I defend myself and dont you worry, I am following along. This game is rather difficult to figure out. I am pretty sure that PCM is mafia, but I can' be sure. It would have been nice to know, but w/e. Clearly you don't know me well at all.. lol
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:14 pmby Iron Butterfly
I am a Day 6 Town Double Voter...I had to jump through a number of hoops yesterday if you recall.
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:29 amby NoSurvivors
Iron Butterfly wrote:I am a Day 6 Town Double Voter...I had to jump through a number of hoops yesterday if you recall.
Bob saggot you're right. Lol
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:41 amby betiko
NoSurvivors wrote:Iron Butterfly wrote:I am a Day 6 Town Double Voter...I had to jump through a number of hoops yesterday if you recall.
Bob saggot you're right. Lol
Games get so interesting when it feels like you're talking to your grandma. His name is saget not saggot by the way
Is it a competition between nos and ghostly about missing the most important learnings of the game so far? Looks like we need to re-explain the double voter thing from yesterday again, i give up.
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:38 amby new guy1
This whole time warp thing is turning my brain to mush. I had everything down pat (except maybe matching IB to double voter which I somehow forgot) and now that everything has been explained the second time I just lost track of it all.
Enough joking around, I still felt as though NOS did not use his vote enough day 1 and day 2, almost like he wasnt trying to pick sides. Now I know that he is claiming meta on that, but I would rather start with that lead since we seem to be short some. So vote NOS
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:24 pmby DoomYoshi
Vote Count
NoS (2) - betiko, new guy1 L-5
Iron Butterfly (1) - vodean
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
Deadline is Dec 4.
With 8 not voting, this means that 10 players support a lynch of NoSurvivors.
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:37 pmby new guy1
I know it's a weekend guys, but deadline is in 2 days. I will say that if NOS were to be lynched, he has been acting strangely (with the lack of voting) and so I will not be taking my vote off of NOS.
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:51 pmby vodean
i am still suspicious of IB. whatever. I wont vote NoS on what we have now. if someone can post something better than meta bullshit, i might consider.
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:08 pmby new guy1
I was not saying it was his meta. He was. Im saying that he has barely voted anyone this game, therefore he is being very passive and is likely trying to not take sides.
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:18 pmby Iron Butterfly
vodean wrote:i am still suspicious of IB. whatever. I wont vote NoS on what we have now. if someone can post something better than meta bullshit, i might consider.
You have not explained why you gave me a vote. You use the word suspicious and "strange behavior" as adjectives but have not made a case against me.
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:33 pmby NoSurvivors
Ehh ill give you that, actually. I usually pick a side eventually. But this game I just dont wanna eff up and use my vote to lynch wrongly. If you guys want I can try to make a case but ask anyone in angels and demons mafia.. i suck balls at that
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:35 pmby new guy1
I mean I understand that, but have you had no instincts this game? Not even a guess?
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:41 pmby betiko
NOS, you basically softclaimed night and that you are useless to take sides on anything. If we have to lynch someone you really seem to be the best target. be prepared to claim soon if nothing happens or if other votes pile on you..
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:44 pmby NoSurvivors
betiko wrote:NOS, you basically softclaimed night and that you are useless to take sides on anything. If we have to lynch someone you really seem to be the best target. be prepared to claim soon if nothing happens or if other votes pile on you..
Well let me tell you right now that I am not worth the time to be wasting on, but yeah it isn't a big loss to town if i die xD. Np with claiming.
new guy1 wrote:I mean I understand that, but have you had no instincts this game? Not even a guess?
Well, no. Idk if you'd like I will vote who I think the scummiest player is, but its not really that great a reason other then gut feeling.
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:48 pmby new guy1
Well you dont see us tripping over case files do you? What is your gut feeling? XD
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:49 pmby Kanin Usagi
I'm not saying that I want to lynch town, because I certainly don't want to do that. But we have had one, possibly two, mafia lynched in our first two days. If we lynch NoS, and he is actually town, then we're still doing quite well as far as the town:mafia ratio goes. And if he is mafia and we lynch, then its possible that we win.
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:51 pmby betiko
NoSurvivors wrote:betiko wrote:NOS, you basically softclaimed night and that you are useless to take sides on anything. If we have to lynch someone you really seem to be the best target. be prepared to claim soon if nothing happens or if other votes pile on you..
Well let me tell you right now that I am not worth the time to be wasting on, but yeah it isn't a big loss to town if i die xD. Np with claiming.
new guy1 wrote:I mean I understand that, but have you had no instincts this game? Not even a guess?
Well, no. Idk if you'd like I will vote who I think the scummiest player is, but its not really that great a reason other then gut feeling.
well there hasn't been any night NOS, so it's obviously 90% gut feeling when we all vote. If it's not worth the shot then it's probably not worth the shot for mafia too and you might as well claim so we can move on. but i'd like to see your vote going somewhere. Can you even vote? maybe your role doesn't allow you to.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:51 pmby new guy1
That would have to be some sort of record. Lynch the three mafia in the first three days.
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Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:54 pmby betiko
new guy1 wrote:That would have to be some sort of record. Lynch the three mafia in the first three days.
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the record would be also with no town casualty! lol. only problem are the time warps and reviving scums!
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:49 pmby NoSurvivors
IB is gonna hate me but my gut tells me he's a scum.
Think, if day 5 was LYLO, day 6 it's over me? Is it possible that the game ends when we pass the "LYLO" day? Idk, best thing I can think of right now.
I do agree with Kanin, I'm confused and not really HELPING the town that much so it would make sense to lynch me if no other case is made..
However you all want me to vote? Then I will go off my gut until a better case is said to me, because I am not in favour of lynching NoSurvivors
. Double voters are not always town either.
VOTE IB
Re: Time Warp Mafia [12/13] Day Two: A New Dawn
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Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:52 pmby NoSurvivors
Oh geez I didn't even see this page, I assumed I was reading the latest page. I am NIGHT 4, VANILLA