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Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:50 pm
by jonty125
Iron Butterfly wrote:This is not a normal game and like Eocscil pointed out the last two that were lynched were collored Black not Red or Blue.


I'm fairly sure that was to hide alignment as they haven't died yet.

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:59 pm
by new guy1
jonty125 wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:This is not a normal game and like Eocscil pointed out the last two that were lynched were collored Black not Red or Blue.


I'm fairly sure that was to hide alignment as they haven't died yet.


I agree with this statement. What would be the point of giving the question marks colors, we would still pretty much know who we lynched.

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:14 pm
by betiko
do you guys think that if on our next warp we are passed their death "date", we will be able to know their alignment?

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:06 pm
by new guy1
I am hoping so.

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:08 pm
by jonty125
betiko wrote:do you guys think that if on our next warp we are passed their death "date", we will be able to know their alignment?


Without a shadow of a doubt.

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:27 pm
by betiko
jonty125 wrote:
betiko wrote:do you guys think that if on our next warp we are passed their death "date", we will be able to know their alignment?


Without a shadow of a doubt.


well it might be better to leave a little shadow here or there in your doubts if you pay this little attention. we are day 5, NOS is dead with an unknown role, PCM is still here. There is a janitor and your theory is flawed. maybe the janitor wasn't around to take care of gregwolf on day 1, that's why we managed to see gregwolf was a scum. I'll have a look at day 1 vote paterns towards the end to see who wasn't around but was around at the end of day 6 and 2. we might find our janitor there.

we will catch you janitor, don't worry!!

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:31 pm
by new guy1
New theory: What if we saw gregwolf because killing him started the sequence of time travel, therefore we will never know who else we have killed because the time travel will always stop us from seeing it, because it has already been set in motion...

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:53 pm
by edocsil
We are are on D5, n1 and n4 are dead. Explain the missing roles, and their alignment guys...

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:27 pm
by betiko
edocsil wrote:We are are on D5, n1 and n4 are dead. Explain the missing roles, and their alignment guys...


well, if you could add something new instead of repeating what I just said 2 posts above... I think it's time for edoc to tell us more about his role. He just decided he didn't want to claim so we let it go, as far as I know, appart from double voter I don't see any great town power role out there. (even if we never had night yet...)

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:00 pm
by edocsil
betiko wrote:
edocsil wrote:We are are on D5, n1 and n4 are dead. Explain the missing roles, and their alignment guys...


well, if you could add something new instead of repeating what I just said 2 posts above... I think it's time for edoc to tell us more about his role. He just decided he didn't want to claim so we let it go, as far as I know, appart from double voter I don't see any great town power role out there. (even if we never had night yet...)


TBH you have no idea what I said if you think you and I were talking about the same thing.


pre post edited this. I am not going to get into a mud flinging contest.

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:28 pm
by betiko
edocsil wrote:
betiko wrote:
edocsil wrote:We are are on D5, n1 and n4 are dead. Explain the missing roles, and their alignment guys...


well, if you could add something new instead of repeating what I just said 2 posts above... I think it's time for edoc to tell us more about his role. He just decided he didn't want to claim so we let it go, as far as I know, appart from double voter I don't see any great town power role out there. (even if we never had night yet...)


TBH you have no idea what I said if you think you and I were talking about the same thing.


pre post edited this. I am not going to get into a mud flinging contest.



I don't see how it's not the same thing I was talking about.
gregwolf is dead and we know his role,
nos is dead and we don't,
pcm is not dead (yet) and we don't.
my explanation is that the janitor wasn't around for gregwolf but was for the other 2, he failed to send his action to doom on day 1. There might be other theories which I would like to hear, and you seem to have another one so go ahead.

Also, an anonymous vote was thrown at NOS for the hammer, so I suspect NOS to really be a VT, and that we have a malevolous double voter.

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:46 pm
by Iron Butterfly
betiko wrote:
edocsil wrote:
betiko wrote:
edocsil wrote:We are are on D5, n1 and n4 are dead. Explain the missing roles, and their alignment guys...


well, if you could add something new instead of repeating what I just said 2 posts above... I think it's time for edoc to tell us more about his role. He just decided he didn't want to claim so we let it go, as far as I know, appart from double voter I don't see any great town power role out there. (even if we never had night yet...)


TBH you have no idea what I said if you think you and I were talking about the same thing.


pre post edited this. I am not going to get into a mud flinging contest.



I don't see how it's not the same thing I was talking about.
gregwolf is dead and we know his role,
nos is dead and we don't,
pcm is not dead (yet) and we don't.
my explanation is that the janitor wasn't around for gregwolf but was for the other 2, he failed to send his action to doom on day 1. There might be other theories which I would like to hear, and you seem to have another one so go ahead.

Also, an anonymous vote was thrown at NOS for the hammer, so I suspect NOS to really be a VT, and that we have a malevolous double voter.

The anon was not me. We know we have another for sure.

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:08 am
by vodean
edocsil wrote:We are are on D5, n1 and n4 are dead. Explain the missing roles, and their alignment guys...

any deaths that occured before D5 should be revealed according to our theories - which are clearly at least partially wrong. but please, you seem to have all the answers, so you tell us.

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:28 am
by Nendreel
I suspect we won't know NoS's role until we fill in the timeline. With Night 1 still outstanding NoS can still perform a Night action so he gets to keep his role hidden.

Tis my theory anyway.

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:39 am
by betiko
Nendreel wrote:I suspect we won't know NoS's role until we fill in the timeline. With Night 1 still outstanding NoS can still perform a Night action so he gets to keep his role hidden.

Tis my theory anyway.


this could stand. this or the janitor.

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:29 am
by edocsil
betiko wrote:
Nendreel wrote:I suspect we won't know NoS's role until we fill in the timeline. With Night 1 still outstanding NoS can still perform a Night action so he gets to keep his role hidden.

Tis my theory anyway.


this could stand. this or the janitor.


It could I suppose. I's a whole lot better then absent day janitors.

@vode, I haven't got any answers, wish I did.

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:51 am
by betiko
Well i don t think that we should trash the janitor theory either. For absence or for other reasons ( he can only hide town corpses?). Gregwolf s case was brought up close to deadline, lots of players don t check the thread periodically.

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:39 am
by jonty125
Hmm. I think Nendreels' theory holds more water than the janitor.

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:37 pm
by betiko
jonty125 wrote:Hmm. I think Nendreels' theory holds more water than the janitor.


I kind of think so too. but I think that players who don't send their actions happens more often that what you guys are suggesting. Here's another doubt. Vodean gets lynched; we are warped to night 1 which is the last course of action for NOS. whatever happens that night, we will be warped to some place where NOS is completely out of the game. Do you think doom would suddenly come out in his scene or in the OP with NOs's role and alignment?

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:39 pm
by jonty125
betiko wrote:
jonty125 wrote:Hmm. I think Nendreels' theory holds more water than the janitor.


I kind of think so too. but I think that players who don't send their actions happens more often that what you guys are suggesting. Here's another doubt. Vodean gets lynched; we are warped to night 1 which is the last course of action for NOS. whatever happens that night, we will be warped to some place where NOS is completely out of the game. Do you think doom would suddenly come out in his scene or in the OP with NOs's role and alignment?


Doom in the scene.

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:55 pm
by Nendreel
betiko wrote:I kind of think so too. but I think that players who don't send their actions happens more often that what you guys are suggesting. Here's another doubt. Vodean gets lynched; we are warped to night 1 which is the last course of action for NOS. whatever happens that night, we will be warped to some place where NOS is completely out of the game. Do you think doom would suddenly come out in his scene or in the OP with NOs's role and alignment?


I think we'd learn of it in a scene. "As the timestream stabilizes, you learn Player X is..." or something to that effect.
I could be wrong, and the effort we'd have to go through to find out isn't likely to be worth it.

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:59 am
by edocsil
Nendreel wrote:
betiko wrote:I kind of think so too. but I think that players who don't send their actions happens more often that what you guys are suggesting. Here's another doubt. Vodean gets lynched; we are warped to night 1 which is the last course of action for NOS. whatever happens that night, we will be warped to some place where NOS is completely out of the game. Do you think doom would suddenly come out in his scene or in the OP with NOs's role and alignment?


I think we'd learn of it in a scene. "As the timestream stabilizes, you learn Player X is..." or something to that effect.
I could be wrong, and the effort we'd have to go through to find out isn't likely to be worth it.


Yes and yes. Honestly what we need is a night, as scummy as that is to suggest :?

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:10 pm
by ghostly447
I would volunteer to be lynched. Im Day 2 so by lynching me if our theories are right you guys would be Night 2 right?

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:39 pm
by jonty125
Yes, but two folk have softclaimed nights. WCS - is none of them are mafia and they get three shots over three nights.

Re: Time Warp Mafia [11/13] Day Five: Penultimacy

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:43 pm
by betiko
ghostly447 wrote:I would volunteer to be lynched. Im Day 2 so by lynching me if our theories are right you guys would be Night 2 right?


wait... humm so that would bring us back to just after nos's death but there would still be a warp to night 1 (vodean) where he would be alive so his role wouldn't be revealed. If we have to lynch someone "for science" I think vodean is a better option. You are a claimed vt and we don't know if vodean has an important role or not though. Appart from getting for the first time into night phase, I'm not really sure that would be very interesting for town.
I think the priority is to find the second double voter and lynch him. I'm starting to consider the massclaiming option... idk