Conquer Club

DoomYoshi wrote:

betiko wrote:

edocsil wrote:Or there are 2 scum left.

well if there are 2 scums left the only way to win would be to kill NG first. Anyway; I'll go with the safe and logical bet kanin spotted (well done mate!). No reason we don't reach day 7 by killing NG, then we will have all roles revealed and will just need to kill jonty...... oh he is a double voter though...

doom can you clarify something: if we reach the final day with kanin, myself and jonty, and that he gets to double vote, that would be 2-2. in case of tie mafia would win right?

There can't be a tie due to timestamps. The order matters.

ie, we cant let jonty live. He can solo win if he is scum

Vote Count

jonty (2) - , betiko, edocsil
new guy1(2) - Kanin, new guy
edocsil (1) - jonty

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

DoomYoshi wrote:

betiko wrote:

edocsil wrote:Or there are 2 scum left.

well if there are 2 scums left the only way to win would be to kill NG first. Anyway; I'll go with the safe and logical bet kanin spotted (well done mate!). No reason we don't reach day 7 by killing NG, then we will have all roles revealed and will just need to kill jonty...... oh he is a double voter though...

doom can you clarify something: if we reach the final day with kanin, myself and jonty, and that he gets to double vote, that would be 2-2. in case of tie mafia would win right?

There can't be a tie due to timestamps. The order matters.

So are you saying that as long as betiko and myself both vote for Jonty before a (possible) double vote by him, we would succeed in a lynch?

All I am saying is that whoever votes first, gets their votes counted first. The first lynch to be reached is the one that gets a scene for it. It's the same as every other mod does it...

Kanin Usagi wrote:

jonty125 wrote:vote edocsil

He lies,
N5 - pcm
N1 - pcm
N2 - nobody (forgot to send action; just checked with Doom)
N6 - Nendreel

This pretty much confirms to me that you're scum. Edoc has already been killed, remember? Now you're just trying to end the game with a time paradox so that everyone loses.

Anyway, there's only four living players left. We need to get rid of the two that we know may not be town, and that's newguy1 and Jonty. Get rid of newguy1 and if we haven't ended it, get rid of Jonty.

dude, if we kill NG, we reach day 7 and then if he's quick enough he places his double vote and we lose. seriously, it's got to be jonty. or if we kill NG we got to be really fast once doom posts the day scene. if one of us doesn't make it before jonty we lose..

other scenario, they are both scum in that case kill ng first and be on the lookout for doom's scene...

betiko wrote:other scenario, they are both scum in that case kill ng first and be on the lookout for doom's scene...

^Exactly. If they're both scum and we lynch jonty, it goes to a night and we could be screwed. This plan gives us the best chance (i like to think) of winning.

Well, I will say I am not mafia, but I trust you guys enough to lynch jonty before the the scene if you still want to go through with kanins plan.

i really doubt NG is mafia, and all points out jonty is. my only problem is if they're both.

He has much more chances than us to place his double vote next day than us; we need both of us to do it before him which gives pretty bad odds. I stay with my vote on jonty, he is scum. we take a risk either way.

I will unvote for in case you guys arent going to lynch me. If you decide you still want to, then I will place my vote back.

Unvote. I'll discuss this with betiko.

basically here is the deal:

1) NG first
pros: we reach the final day knowing everybody's role and with just jonty to lynch if it's not game over. If they are both mafia it's the only way to win.
cons: if jonty votes before both of us mafia wins.

2)Jonty first
pros: there has been a double voter all game and his claim + slips make us think it's him
cons: if he is not scum or if they are both scum we lose

I'd like other people's opinion, like nendreel's

betiko wrote:basically here is the deal:

1) NG first
pros: we reach the final day knowing everybody's role and with just jonty to lynch if it's not game over. If they are both mafia it's the only way to win.
cons: if jonty votes before both of us mafia wins.

2)Jonty first
pros: there has been a double voter all game and his claim + slips make us think it's him
cons: if he is not scum or if they are both scum we lose

I'd like other people's opinion, like nendreel's

1): If NG1 gets lynched now, I don't think all the roles will be revealed. There'll still be the N3 gap because of either you or Kanin being alive. Also if you go to D7 at all knowing the roles won't matter as the only person left is jonty.

2)Whether double voter or vote stealer, he'll have two votes on D7, and you and Kanin have to get your votes in before him.

So, going by what edoc said jonty hasn't gone anywhere, this would mean he's a natural DV rather than a VS. That means we only have one Power we know about in the works, and it seems to be jonty. If NG1 has an ability it hasn't manifested itself yet. NG1 was also willing to vote himself when the idea first came up and I don't think mafia would lynch themselves, especially if the only possibility of a Town win was by killing NG1 first.

My gut says jonty is the last mafia, but if you and Kanin believe you can get your votes in before jonty then I would suggest taking a guaranteed win.

none is a guaranteed win, both are a gamble. I prefer gambling that jonty is the only mafia left, kanin prefers gambling that we will both vote before jonty.
I would be much more pissed if we have the game in hand and either of us show up in time and wait in vain for the partner to show up before jonty..

TBH, I think edoc/newguy is one of the remaining scum, lynching me would also effectively lynch edoc but I'm still concerned newguy has pulled the wool over our eyes.

jonty125 wrote:TBH, I think edoc/newguy is one of the remaining scum, lynching me would also effectively lynch edoc but I'm still concerned newguy has pulled the wool over our eyes.

Edoc has been lynched, therefore if he is mafia then he has been "eliminated" so to speak and we have to lynch me. So either this is a clever way of saying "I think it's new guy" or its a way of saying "I forgot edoc's death was what caused our night phase".

new guy1 wrote:

jonty125 wrote:TBH, I think edoc/newguy is one of the remaining scum, lynching me would also effectively lynch edoc but I'm still concerned newguy has pulled the wool over our eyes.

Edoc has been lynched, therefore if he is mafia then he has been "eliminated" so to speak and we have to lynch me. So either this is a clever way of saying "I think it's new guy" or its a way of saying "I forgot edoc's death was what caused our night phase".

He is the dbl voter who killed me. I don't see how he could have forgotten.

edocsil wrote:

new guy1 wrote:

jonty125 wrote:TBH, I think edoc/newguy is one of the remaining scum, lynching me would also effectively lynch edoc but I'm still concerned newguy has pulled the wool over our eyes.

Edoc has been lynched, therefore if he is mafia then he has been "eliminated" so to speak and we have to lynch me. So either this is a clever way of saying "I think it's new guy" or its a way of saying "I forgot edoc's death was what caused our night phase".

He is the dbl voter who killed me. I don't see how he could have forgotten.

Screw it. Vote Jonty. If that leads to game, then its game, and good game everyone.

Now that kanin agrees, I will Vote Jonty.

I'll just say that if it's NG well very well played. we got to take a risk either way, and I kind of think it's less cruel if it's due to a bad decision rather than not being fast enough... this would turn into a CC freestlye with everyone refreshing the page once the hammer is done. Hum oh wait...

Looks like a direction has been chosen. Hopefully it's the right one. Either way, this has been an interesting game.

vote jonty

Nendreel wrote:Looks like a direction has been chosen. Hopefully it's the right one. Either way, this has been an interesting game.

vote jonty

I will tell you it is the right direction so long as betiko and kanin havent pulled our leg and they arent the mafia

Vote Count

jonty (5) - , betiko, edocsil, nendreel, new guy, Kanin

That's a lynch.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Now the time had come for the time to go. As he faced his inevitable demise, he screamed: "Why do you care that I kill? You will all die eventually. I am a necessity! Without our efforts, your lives would have been meaningless. You existed only so that we could have someone to kill. And to think, that you killed just as many as we did."

jonty125, has been lynched.

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On day 7, the masons and new guy looked at each other, happy that that they had indeed won the game. But wait... if all the mafia were dead, why was there a death on night 6? This was going to be a long eternity as the 3 of them eyed each other...


Endgame. Town Wins.

DoomYoshi wrote:Now the time had come for the time to go. As he faced his inevitable demise, he screamed: "Why do you care that I kill? You will all die eventually. I am a necessity! Without our efforts, your lives would have been meaningless. You existed only so that we could have someone to kill. And to think, that you killed just as many as we did."

new guy1, has been lynched.

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On day 7, the masons and new guy looked at each other, happy that that they had indeed won the game. But wait... if all the mafia were dead, why was there a death on night 6? This was going to be a long eternity as the 3 of them eyed each other...


Endgame. Town Wins.

sorry Error here. . . if it was Newguy then he just got insanely lucky. Otherwise gg. I was wondering if town would catch the fact that the Mafia double voter would =the town votes. In normal games thats game over Nice game to watch. Very well made Doom.