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Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:16 pm
by anamainiacks
Nendreel wrote:
betiko wrote:here is a question to everyone: if you guys get enough gifts for an action tonight, what would be the first type of action you would use?


Cop would be the most useful, but it might be a good idea to have a Doc action or two around as well.

I've been thinking about what to do if I can get some Christmas Magic, but haven't come up with very many ideas.

Yea, I have the same thoughts on the Christmas Magic - I can't think of what special stuff to do, though it does sound pretty powerful :? What kinda stuff would be considered gamebreaking or acceptable, do we have any examples?

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:21 pm
by Kanin Usagi
anamainiacks wrote:
Nendreel wrote:
betiko wrote:here is a question to everyone: if you guys get enough gifts for an action tonight, what would be the first type of action you would use?


Cop would be the most useful, but it might be a good idea to have a Doc action or two around as well.

I've been thinking about what to do if I can get some Christmas Magic, but haven't come up with very many ideas.

Yea, I have the same thoughts on the Christmas Magic - I can't think of what special stuff to do, though it does sound pretty powerful :? What kinda stuff would be considered gamebreaking or acceptable, do we have any examples?

Well, here's a non-game breaking one: Revive a deceased player. Make mislynches a little less painful.

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:41 pm
by Iron Butterfly
unvote jonty

It was a joke vote

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:04 am
by MoB Deadly
unvote as well..... I've got nothing to contribute this sucks :?

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:07 am
by superkeener
I've thought about it a little more, and i am still in favor of a no lynch on D1.

Vote No Lynch

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:49 am
by jonty125
unvote my jokevote but I'm not willing to support a no lynch, at this stage of the day.

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:54 am
by anamainiacks
superkeener wrote:I've thought about it a little more, and i am still in favor of a no lynch on D1.

Vote No Lynch

Didn't we spend quite a few posts discussing why we shouldn't be pushing for no lynch yet, or at least not until we've had more discussion? And yet, after all that was explained, you still want this? Would you care to explain your decision, since you didn't take part in that earlier debate either, despite MoB calling you out as setting off his scum-dar? FOS superkeener...

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:57 am
by superkeener
I did explain my position. Go back and check. But just to ease your minds then...

UNVOTE

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:49 pm
by spiesr
superkeener wrote:I did explain my position. Go back and check. But just to ease your minds then...

UNVOTE
Well then, who will you be voting for tomorrow then? If you don't know yet, what do you expect to change by Day 2 that will allow you to come to a decision?
jonty125 wrote:unvote my jokevote but I'm not willing to support a no lynch, at this stage of the day.
Unless you take a stand on an issue or come up with something soon you are effectively supporting a de facto no lynch.

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:17 pm
by MoB Deadly
You say maybe a D1 lynch is good, and then 1 post later vote for no lynch?

superkeener wrote:Maybe a D1 lynch is good, but somehow I guess I just don't have enough to go on right now to just send a random person to the wolves. I never like to compare any mafia game to another as I typically give everyone the benefit of doubt in D1 unless there is something that grabs my attention.

Nothing has grabbed my attention just yet, but I am still open for a D1 lynch if evidence arises
.



How do you expect anything to grab your attention if we just call it quits and vote for no lynch??

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:20 pm
by Metsfanmax
MoB Deadly wrote:You say maybe a D1 lynch is good, and then 1 post later vote for no lynch?

superkeener wrote:Maybe a D1 lynch is good, but somehow I guess I just don't have enough to go on right now to just send a random person to the wolves. I never like to compare any mafia game to another as I typically give everyone the benefit of doubt in D1 unless there is something that grabs my attention.

Nothing has grabbed my attention just yet, but I am still open for a D1 lynch if evidence arises
.



How do you expect anything to grab your attention if we just call it quits and vote for no lynch??


I'd say he has succeeded. Just by the act of posting the no lynch vote, he has generated a conversation that we can potentially mine for information later. For example, your response to it will be noted, and as will my response to you, in a meta sense. Posting no lynch is not always just being defeatist and waiting for D2 to come; it can generate interesting results in the way people perceive it. Even if everyone voted no lynch, there would still be information there -- some of the people early on are more likely to be mafia, I would imagine, even if there's no way to be certain.

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:24 pm
by MoB Deadly
Right..... but I am pretty confident he didnt cast a vote on No Lynch to spur discussion.... It seems like to me he was like ehh no one seems suspicious lets just not lynch today..

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:00 pm
by superkeener
MoB Deadly wrote:Right..... but I am pretty confident he didnt cast a vote on No Lynch to spur discussion.... It seems like to me he was like ehh no one seems suspicious lets just not lynch today..


Actually it was to see if anything would arise from a No Lynch vote, which some dialogue did begin, hence my quick unvote. Not that I am completely convinced that a no lynch is useless on D1, I am honestly undecided.
Basically other than the no lynch vs. lynch for D1 discussion, everything else has been mostly semantics and loose interpretation of the "Gift giving" aspect of this game. Reactions to anything at anytime are always good to have, for now or in the coming days.

What else can we discuss?

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:23 am
by superkeener
damn, I think I killed this thread...

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:28 am
by jonty125
Hmm. Not much cooking.

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:49 am
by rishaed
jonty125 wrote:Hmm. Not much cooking.

True that. Going back to what Superkeener said, about the speculation of the gift giving mechanics. I think that i could be possible that your "gift givers" might be otherwise VT's, and those who cannot give gifts are the PR's in this game. I could be wrong, but that would be my speculation. Another thought would be if the gifts have different abilities in and of themselves, but that makes no sense with the exchangement system of the gifts. :-s There are quite a few possible scenarios that this could go down.

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:02 am
by jonty125
rishaed wrote:
jonty125 wrote:Hmm. Not much cooking.

True that. Going back to what Superkeener said, about the speculation of the gift giving mechanics. I think that i could be possible that your "gift givers" might be otherwise VT's, and those who cannot give gifts are the PR's in this game.


I would agree

rishaed wrote:Another thought would be if the gifts have different abilities in and of themselves, but that makes no sense with the exchangement system of the gifts.


I would say the gifts could be converted into anything.

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:13 am
by Nendreel
rishaed wrote:
jonty125 wrote:Hmm. Not much cooking.

True that. Going back to what Superkeener said, about the speculation of the gift giving mechanics. I think that i could be possible that your "gift givers" might be otherwise VT's, and those who cannot give gifts are the PR's in this game. I could be wrong, but that would be my speculation.

I don't think your wrong about this. It would make sense that there are some power roles floating around in case the gift givers got killed quickly.

[/quote]
Another thought would be if the gifts have different abilities in and of themselves, but that makes no sense with the exchangement system of the gifts. :-s There are quite a few possible scenarios that this could go down.[/quote]

I doubt the presents would have an ability themselves, otherwise there'd be no reason to cash them in. Would you give up two(+) abilities to get a one-shot?
Maybe if they were crappy abilities :lol:

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:18 am
by edocsil
Nendreel wrote:
rishaed wrote:
jonty125 wrote:Hmm. Not much cooking.

True that. Going back to what Superkeener said, about the speculation of the gift giving mechanics. I think that i could be possible that your "gift givers" might be otherwise VT's, and those who cannot give gifts are the PR's in this game. I could be wrong, but that would be my speculation.

I don't think your wrong about this. It would make sense that there are some power roles floating around in case the gift givers got killed quickly.


Another thought would be if the gifts have different abilities in and of themselves, but that makes no sense with the exchangement system of the gifts. :-s There are quite a few possible scenarios that this could go down.[/quote]

I doubt the presents would have an ability themselves, otherwise there'd be no reason to cash them in. Would you give up two(+) abilities to get a one-shot?
Maybe if they were crappy abilities :lol:[/quote]

If I could be a reviver? f*ck YEAH

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:21 pm
by spiesr
Okay we seem to have reached an impasse. There is just over 2 day left before the end of the Day, nobody has more than two votes, no good cases exist, and discussion has stalled. The way I see it our options are limited. Here are a few things that we could try:
[*]Shamelessly bandwagon somebody who has votes for the sake of forcing a claim.
[*]Accept the inevitable no lynch.
[*]Carry on as we have.
[*]Pick out the person who has been most useless so far and they to lynch them to cull dead weight.

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:35 pm
by jonty125
spiesr wrote:Okay we seem to have reached an impasse. There is just over 2 day left before the end of the Day, nobody has more than two votes, no good cases exist, and discussion has stalled. The way I see it our options are limited. Here are a few things that we could try:
[*]Shamelessly bandwagon somebody who has votes for the sake of forcing a claim.
[*]Accept the inevitable no lynch.
[*]Carry on as we have.
[*]Pick out the person who has been most useless so far and they to lynch them to cull dead weight.


Option One: NO
Option Two: It's growing on me
Option Three: Will lead to Option Two
Option Four: I take it you mean the inactive as to be quite honest most of the posts in here have been fluff (it is D1)

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:37 pm
by betiko
jonty125 wrote:
spiesr wrote:Okay we seem to have reached an impasse. There is just over 2 day left before the end of the Day, nobody has more than two votes, no good cases exist, and discussion has stalled. The way I see it our options are limited. Here are a few things that we could try:
[*]Shamelessly bandwagon somebody who has votes for the sake of forcing a claim.
[*]Accept the inevitable no lynch.
[*]Carry on as we have.
[*]Pick out the person who has been most useless so far and they to lynch them to cull dead weight.


Option One: NO
Option Two: It's growing on me
Option Three: Will lead to Option Two
Option Four: I take it you mean the inactive as to be quite honest most of the posts in here have been fluff (it is D1)


well since no survivors is going to be absent, would it be in our interest to bandwagon on someone and lynch him, then that person can always replace no survivors?

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:41 pm
by Metsfanmax
betiko wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
spiesr wrote:Okay we seem to have reached an impasse. There is just over 2 day left before the end of the Day, nobody has more than two votes, no good cases exist, and discussion has stalled. The way I see it our options are limited. Here are a few things that we could try:
[*]Shamelessly bandwagon somebody who has votes for the sake of forcing a claim.
[*]Accept the inevitable no lynch.
[*]Carry on as we have.
[*]Pick out the person who has been most useless so far and they to lynch them to cull dead weight.


Option One: NO
Option Two: It's growing on me
Option Three: Will lead to Option Two
Option Four: I take it you mean the inactive as to be quite honest most of the posts in here have been fluff (it is D1)


well since no survivors is going to be absent, would it be in our interest to bandwagon on someone and lynch him, then that person can always replace no survivors?


Isn't it a bad idea for someone who was already in the game to replace another player? It might work if you have communicating players like mafia, but otherwise, it's not fair.

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:49 pm
by Nendreel
I don't like the idea of bandwagoning, it's pretty much going to be a mislynch and easily steerable by scum. We may also lynch a useful PR.
I'd prefer we not actively take the No Lynch option, unless it's NL by deadline rather than by vote.
Lynching an inactive is the most palatable option at this point, though I don't think there's anyone that really stands out as being inactive. Perhaps Chuck?

Re: [Official] Rankin/Bass Holiday Mafia - Day 1 [16/16]

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:56 pm
by rishaed
^I'd rather go with replace the inactive than to lynch them. Overall, the inactive at this point is probably town over mafia, and so the chances of actually hitting Scum is low. But I haven't seen chuck in awhile either so, If we decide to take this route then he would be the inactive.