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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia (10/20): N4 - Final Flame

Postby Minister Masket on Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:04 pm

East of Randgriz

Zaka wasn't having the greatest of nights. His country's capital had just exploded, his commander's sister had died, and now it looked like his favourite headband had been stolen. He'd even seen the girl running off with it. Maybe it was because he was Darcsen, he was used to rotten luck.

Alicia waited by the impromptu campfire. Welkin was in his tent mourning and no-one seemed to be able to get through to him. The Empire had been beheaded sure...but their forces were still out there. The war had not yet been won.
Zaka suddenly appeared behind her, asking if she knew of a grey-haired girl in the squad. She was about to answer, when a sniper shot almost burst her eardrums. It must've gone right past her ear. Then she heard a 'thump' - Zaka had fallen to the ground, spurts of blood erupting from his shoulder.
She gasped, and ran for the rest of the squad.


Anarkistsdream - Zaka - has been incapacitated for the day, but that doesn't matter too much because...

Day 5 is Skipped for Princess Cordelia's Funeral and Night 5 Begins!
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia (9/20): N5 - Medic!

Postby rishaed on Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:43 pm

Don't Worry Nark! I gotcha under supervision! (lol)
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia (9/20): N5 - Medic!

Postby Minister Masket on Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:56 pm

Outside the ruins of Randgriz:

Varrot: "It's not over Welkin. The Empire's still out there. All we can do is mobilize what we have left and go after them."
Welkin: "I know. We're stronger than they are. I'm done mourning until Gallia is free."
Varrot: Go see Alicia. She's been worrying about you. After what happened last night, I think you two really need each other right now."
Welkin: "Yes m'am."
Varrot: "And while you're over there, can you look around for my glasses? I can't seem to find them anywhere."

Meanwhile, far to the east, two local fisherman dragged a body out of the river. It was no-one they knew, and while they couldn't be sure, it'd looked like he'd drowned.


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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia (8/20): D6 - An End to War?

Postby Anarkistsdream on Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:12 pm

Hell yeah... Incapacitate this!!

Punks... and now that my role has been revealed, town knows I am on their side... I am NEVER scum! Protown hero to the offense!
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia (8/20): D6 - An End to War?

Postby ga7 on Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:53 pm

Oh well. Vote Kratos
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia (8/20): D6 - An End to War?

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:05 pm

I have your glasses. They hurt my eyes.

I stole glasses from nagareous last night.

I stole a Darsen headband from Anarchist dream the night before.

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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia (8/20): D6 - An End to War?

Postby kratos644 on Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:21 pm

Can I at least hammer myself? :)
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia (8/20): D6 - An End to War?

Postby gregwolf121 on Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:28 pm

vote kratos
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia (8/20): D6 - An End to War?

Postby strike wolf on Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:00 am

Huh...wonder why and how Saf died...oh well. Sorry Saf. I'll just say it wasn't me.
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia (8/20): D6 - An End to War?

Postby strike wolf on Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:03 am

oh and Vote Kratos

That's L-1 by my count. If you want to hammer yourself I don't have an issue with it.
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia (8/20): D6 - An End to War?

Postby safariguy5 on Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:17 am

Never seem to win as survivor, never do...
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia (8/20): D6 - An End to War?

Postby kratos644 on Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:54 am

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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia (8/20): D6 - An End to War?

Postby Minister Masket on Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:16 am

safariguy5 wrote:Never seem to win as survivor, never do...

You betrayed the mafia when all three were still alive. Were you really expecting to survive? ^^

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Not sure a concluding scene is really necessary, unless you lot want one.
Roles and my post-game thoughts will come later and I'm at Uni atm.
Right now I will say I'm almost completely satisfied with how the game played out - there was just one scenario that didn't happen. More on that later.

Please do leave your thoughts on the game's mechanics and questions. I know safari's defection was a defining moment, and it may have seemed odd for all the mafia to be outed. Consider up until that point the mafia had been utterly dominant, and that moment took extremely good town play to not only out safari but convince him to squeal. Exactly the type of play that deserve to win a game really. ^^
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia - Gallia (Town) Victory!

Postby strike wolf on Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:31 am

GG town. Well as all my recruited (All of town except Nagerous and maybe Nark if he didn't get an update on it.) pawns...I mean allies...know and possibly others suspected, I was Welkin Gunther. I don't know how much you were told Saf but the reason you knew of me and New guy was because ghostly before I had replaced him had tried to recruit you. I was REALLY close to announcing that I had a day kill to get Saf to jump at the idea of switching, I am glad it worked out. Town did seem really strong especially considering the Saf jump over clause but we'll see what the mafia's potential abilities are first.
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia - Gallia (Town) Victory!

Postby rishaed on Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:52 am

I wasn't expecting the Night kill on me ):. Was very unfortunate timing. Luckily, town still pulled through. Was wondering what my 3rd ??? was and how I was supposed to unlock it.
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia (8/20): D6 - An End to War?

Postby spiesr on Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:10 pm

Minister Masket wrote:Please do leave your thoughts on the game's mechanics and questions. I know safari's defection was a defining moment, and it may have seemed odd for all the mafia to be outed. Consider up until that point the mafia had been utterly dominant, and that moment took extremely good town play to not only out safari but convince him to squeal. Exactly the type of play that deserve to win a game really. ^^
Meh, once safariguy turned survivor outing all of his info to the town was the only logical choice he really had. I am surprised he had think about it as long as he did. If he didn't spill the beans at that point he would have been the number one target that night. (And without the scum all being outed we might have had a better chance of having the resources to kill him too.)
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia (8/20): D6 - An End to War?

Postby safariguy5 on Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:14 pm

spiesr wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:Please do leave your thoughts on the game's mechanics and questions. I know safari's defection was a defining moment, and it may have seemed odd for all the mafia to be outed. Consider up until that point the mafia had been utterly dominant, and that moment took extremely good town play to not only out safari but convince him to squeal. Exactly the type of play that deserve to win a game really. ^^
Meh, once safariguy turned survivor outing all of his info to the town was the only logical choice he really had. I am surprised he had think about it as long as he did. If he didn't spill the beans at that point he would have been the number one target that night. (And without the scum all being outed we might have had a better chance of having the resources to kill him too.)

Honestly, if town wasn't being so trigger happy about it, my best line of play would have been for you guys to let me remain mafia and let me turn over the rest of the mafia players. That way, I retained bulletproof protection at night, and you guys still could kill off the rest of the mafia players. And then I could flip once you guys killed them off.

But no...you guys saw mafia and forced me out of it. Really couldn't see the mutually beneficial long game. I feel like I definitely could have survived had you guys heard me out.
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia - Gallia (Town) Victory!

Postby nagerous on Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:25 pm

strike wolf wrote:GG town. Well as all my recruited (All of town except Nagerous and maybe Nark if he didn't get an update on it.) pawns...I mean allies...know and possibly others suspected, I was Welkin Gunther. I don't know how much you were told Saf but the reason you knew of me and New guy was because ghostly before I had replaced him had tried to recruit you. I was REALLY close to announcing that I had a day kill to get Saf to jump at the idea of switching, I am glad it worked out. Town did seem really strong especially considering the Saf jump over clause but we'll see what the mafia's potential abilities are first.


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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia - Gallia (Town) Victory!

Postby strike wolf on Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:28 pm

nagerous wrote:
strike wolf wrote:GG town. Well as all my recruited (All of town except Nagerous and maybe Nark if he didn't get an update on it.) pawns...I mean allies...know and possibly others suspected, I was Welkin Gunther. I don't know how much you were told Saf but the reason you knew of me and New guy was because ghostly before I had replaced him had tried to recruit you. I was REALLY close to announcing that I had a day kill to get Saf to jump at the idea of switching, I am glad it worked out. Town did seem really strong especially considering the Saf jump over clause but we'll see what the mafia's potential abilities are first.


I feel left out :(


I wanted to recruit you but unless I misread my role I could only recruit actual recruits.
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia - Gallia (Town) Victory!

Postby TheForgivenOne on Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:40 pm

Man, that night I got killed, I had like, 3 people visiting the princess when she was kidnapped.
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia (8/20): D6 - An End to War?

Postby Minister Masket on Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:44 pm

spiesr wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:Please do leave your thoughts on the game's mechanics and questions. I know safari's defection was a defining moment, and it may have seemed odd for all the mafia to be outed. Consider up until that point the mafia had been utterly dominant, and that moment took extremely good town play to not only out safari but convince him to squeal. Exactly the type of play that deserve to win a game really. ^^
Meh, once safariguy turned survivor outing all of his info to the town was the only logical choice he really had.


I disagree in that at that point with all the mafia still alive, a survivor openly betraying them was tantamount to suicide. Not exactly good survivor play for someone wanting to come away with a win, so I wasn't expecting safariguy to do that at all.
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I feel left out :(


I wanted to recruit you but unless I misread my role I could only recruit actual recruits.


You were one of three town roles that couldn't be recruited. You. Princess, and Townshend.

Speaking of which, I did enjoy the paranoid posts about a Federation cult in the game. :mrgreen:
That would've been a bit too ambitious, even for me.

Oh yeah, what did everyone think of the perk system?
rish - yours was one night away from unlocking. Unlucky bud. I'll post the roles and perks when I get time next. Probably Wednesday.
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia - Gallia (Town) Victory!

Postby Iron Butterfly on Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:47 pm

I really enjoyed the game...until safari was revealed. The survivor aspect completely ruined it for me. Ruined it for mafia as well. If you removed the survivor aspect the game could have gone either way instead of the route it became. We caught our first mafia and it was game over. That creates a huge imbalance to favor Town.

Roles that create such an imbalance ruin the game. Mafia could have had a route if the killed our enabler as well.
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia (8/20): D6 - An End to War?

Postby strike wolf on Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:48 pm

Minister Masket wrote:
spiesr wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:Please do leave your thoughts on the game's mechanics and questions. I know safari's defection was a defining moment, and it may have seemed odd for all the mafia to be outed. Consider up until that point the mafia had been utterly dominant, and that moment took extremely good town play to not only out safari but convince him to squeal. Exactly the type of play that deserve to win a game really. ^^
Meh, once safariguy turned survivor outing all of his info to the town was the only logical choice he really had.


I disagree in that at that point with all the mafia still alive, a survivor openly betraying them was tantamount to suicide. Not exactly good survivor play for someone wanting to come away with a win, so I wasn't expecting safariguy to do that at all.


Not necessarily. With revealing them you can at least hope that mafia decides damage is done, why bother? But not revealing them. No mafia is going to let a third party who knows all of their identities live to potentially reveal them later on. Leaving the mafia unnamed would have been pretty much a 100% chance at death and each of the mafia said so themselves.
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia - Gallia (Town) Victory!

Postby virus90 on Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:02 pm

loved the perk system ! :)
and about the federation, told you all so! :P
and deliberately never told that i was beloved, thought it would be invitation for a kill.
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Re: Valkyria Chronicles Mafia - Gallia (Town) Victory!

Postby rishaed on Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:09 pm

I suspected you were a Beloved Princess... Man alive I was ticked to find out on the night I protected you you go and get yourself kidnapped ..... Fortunately we caught Flores. So what I want to know is that since the mafia enabler died, how did Kratos send in his action, and how did he get through the "roleblock?" Because supposedly Neb was roleblocking him ( or supposed to) both nights?
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