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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby Marashu on Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:44 am

Tim still has not checked his messages since I sent the prod, so I will be looking to replace him. There will be an extension to D3 as a result. If I cannot find a replacement, he will be modkilled.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby Marashu on Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:45 am

Also, VOTE COUNT
Epi: Wing, dakky, Ragian (L-1)
Not voting: HotShot, TimWoodbury, Epi
Deadline is Friday, January 8, 0600CCT. With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby Ragian on Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:34 am

Tim is almost certainly town (I can't see him give up one of his own). If he is modkilled, we'll lose one townie no matter what. We'll kill off epi: 1 scum left, 1 werewolf left, and 2 townies left. We need to have them going after each other for us to win.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby dakky21 on Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:35 am

If Tim is modkilled, Epi is lynched automatically as then 3 votes are enough for a lynch...
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:13 am

Good
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby StorrZerg on Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:07 am

I requested to replace in.

If someone could give a tl Dr for what's going on that would be great
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby Ragian on Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:15 am

What's a tldr?
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby StorrZerg on Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:55 am

To long did not read


Aka I'd like a short summary of what's going on
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:25 pm

So on Day 1 Tim Woodbury received two investigation results. That LSU Josh is werewolf and that Epi is mafia. So we lynched LSU Josh whilst Dakky tried to convince us that Town had lost and we should lynch someone else.

Day 2 Dakky received the result that Hotshot is NOT werewolf. Or at least claims to have, I believe him this though personally.

There has been no second investigation, did you/timwoodbury recieve an investigation from the werewolf oracle?

There are currently three votes on Epi for obvious reasons. Hotshot is abstaining until the deadline to give Tim/yourself time to contribute.

Epi has claimed that he knows who the werewolf is and that his partner also knows this, so we are currently relying on the fact that it makes logical sense for the last mafia to kill the last werewolf and giving us at least a 2 town versus 1 mafia tomorrow. This has been explained explicitly by myself and Dakky so the last mafia should actually do this.

Anything else?
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby StorrZerg on Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:58 pm

How does investigation thingy work?
Will it happen again ?
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:08 pm

Further:

If you are town and alive tomorrow then you will need to read the thread/make a 2v1 call correctly.
If you are mafia, then you need to kill the werewolf tonight and then admit it at the start of D4, we'll appreciate it.
If you are werewolf, then just own up now, its for the best.

Edit: switch D1 out for D2 and D2 out for D3 in my post above, i subbed in on D2.

Fp'd both Mafia and werewolf have one player who investigates every night. They investigate someone and give the result to someone else. The only rule is they cant give the result to themselves. Its possble werewolf gave an investigation result to MrBelly knowing that he was likely to die as Epi had declared that he was killing MrBelly in the thread.

It should happen again. As the Werewolf Oracle is still alive. Epi has claimed to be the Mafia Seer so we might not get an investigation from mafia tomorrow.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby Ragian on Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:27 pm

I feel sort of forgotten there, wing. Harsh.

Also, storr, it is important if you have received an investigation. If you haven't, one of the dead VT's probably received it.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:40 pm

Ragian wrote:I feel sort of forgotten there, wing. Harsh.

Also, storr, it is important if you have received an investigation. If you haven't, one of the dead VT's probably received it.


I was being objective. In the entire game what have you actually done which is worth mentioning?
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby Marashu on Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:17 pm

As you can probably tell, StorrZerg will be replacing TimWoodbury. New deadline will be Tuesday Jan 12, 0600CCT.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby HotShot53 on Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:37 pm

Marashu wrote:As you can probably tell, StorrZerg will be replacing TimWoodbury. New deadline will be Tuesday Jan 12, 0600CCT.


Since the deadline isn't tomorrow anymore, let me know when you are caught up enough storr and I will hammer epi, or you can hammer him yourself if you want to.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby StorrZerg on Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:34 pm

I'd like to hammer. Since game is waiting on me.

So good news. I'm town.

Wait, I'm confirmed town right? As soon as epi flips mafia. Impossible to get a double check n1 as anything but town? Wolf can't use on his partner same as mafia right?
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:11 am

Yup Storr. Youre 99% confirmed town. Definitely not the werewolf, and unlikely to be Epis partner seeing as you exposed him.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby Ragian on Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:51 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
Ragian wrote:I feel sort of forgotten there, wing. Harsh.

Also, storr, it is important if you have received an investigation. If you haven't, one of the dead VT's probably received it.


I was being objective. In the entire game what have you actually done which is worth mentioning?

I've been more than a part of this game, but I was making a joke. It's weird, though, that you should ask the above question despite the fact that you have acknowledged my input even today :roll:

@storr, you can read the mechanics on P1. The oracle/seer could give their results to their partners so technically, you could be anti-town. However, it wouldn't make sense for Tim to hand over his own buddy D2, I think, so in my view you're as good as cleared.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby StorrZerg on Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:23 am

Ok, so. Town itself is in a very poor spot.


Why? Because I have a second check that isn't known.


I'm saying this because the wolf knows I know this.


Idk who the wolf is, so it's up to mafia if they want a town win, or a flip a coin on the final day for town vs wolf.


With that wing is the final mafia
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby StorrZerg on Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:44 am

I believe that forces the wolf to kill wing, and wing now has a choice if he wishes to end the game tonight or let chaos happen tonight
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby StorrZerg on Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:44 am

Yeah, any other thoughts?
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby dakky21 on Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:52 am

Now we come to the conclusion I was saying D2... if we lynched a non-confirmed scum D2 (Wing for example), we would have lynched Epi today, and have only one NK tonight,

This way, whoever we lynch today, be it Epi or Wing, two night kills will occur and Wing can decide if he is going to shoot town or wolf tonight, either way mafia loses the game.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:02 pm

Unvote

Ragian is the final werewolf. So how about it Rage want to win this thing together?

Dakky, In what were you killing me yesterday? In theory your plan worked but it would never have played out that way. Everything I have said has been the genuine best way for town to win. I neglected to mention that the investigations would make it exceedingly easy for town to improve their position. The only thing I did that was questionable is how LSU got lynched despite me suggesting that we kill Epi all day.

It is no longer best for me to kill Rage tonight as I cannot win a 2v1 tomorrow. I was going to run a fake investigation and pretend to have recieved the result that one of the alive players was not mafia, thus confirming the other as mafia. Is a shame.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:04 pm

dakky21 wrote:Now we come to the conclusion I was saying D2... if we lynched a non-confirmed scum D2 (Wing for example), we would have lynched Epi today, and have only one NK tonight,

This way, whoever we lynch today, be it Epi or Wing, two night kills will occur and Wing can decide if he is going to shoot town or wolf tonight, either way mafia loses the game.


And also I can easily run a case evidencing exactly why Ragian is the last werewolf, and would have done so, hence you would have got your double faction lynch if Mtam hadnt been modkilled.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 3[6/13]

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:08 pm

Vote No Lynch

-It is 3 v 2 v1

Mafia cannot kill Ragian and win.

So Mafia will kill one of town tonight.
Ragian will kill one of mafia tonight.

D4

2 v 1 v 1

Again no Lynch

Mafia and werewolf agree a kill each

D5

1 mafia, 1 werewolf

Joint victory.
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