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Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:50 am
by Metsfanmax
dgz345 wrote:Only #2 explains that you where rb last night.

And if he is scum RB that means he can block one and kill one.

Tho usually doesn't the target know that he is being RBed?

Or does mets have some redirect ability?

Maybe we should go back to who could be agee scum friend...


I'll concede that me being a scum roleblocker is possibly consistent with the results. That hadn't occurred to me before, so I should not have as strongly claimed that I am cleared. That said, I'd still argue it's unlikely, because that would mean I had to target Ragian last night and that our duelling roleblocks resolved in my favor and I still got a kill. While this is possible, if I was scum roleblocker, it doesn't make much sense that I would use neither my kill nor my roleblock on strike. Why would I let a town cop get a free night action, knowing he could have targeted me?

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:39 am
by Ragian
Do any of your scenarios take into account that dgz is scum? While I didn't obscure strike's result, someone did. It must be dgz.

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:51 am
by dgz345
Ragian wrote:Do any of your scenarios take into account that dgz is scum? While I didn't obscure strike's result, someone did. It must be dgz.


Well if I did then it wasn't on purpose. I can't target anyone as I'm litterly the sleeping skoffin...

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:33 am
by Metsfanmax
Ragian wrote:Do any of your scenarios take into account that dgz is scum? While I didn't obscure strike's result, someone did. It must be dgz.


I've considered that investigation immunity is a classic mafia godfather role. However it's just speculation.

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:02 pm
by strike wolf
Mets can only be scum if his action is unblockable or Rage was somehow prevented from using his action. Unblockable feels a bit OP in a game this size and if it was, why not use the unblockable action to kill me even through a doc protect? Rages action being nullified doesnt make sense becauae there isnt any role to account for why it was blocked. The only thing that could iz if Mets was scum roleblocker and chose to block Rage which would be an illogical action for him to make. Especially since I basically said Mets was my top scum pick going into the night. Untargetable doesnt make sensr as it wouldn't explain what happened to my action last night.

The reasons for my result are almost certainly either I was role blocked or DGZ has investigation immunity.

If DGZ is mafia Role blocker: youre role block will keep him from using his action freely. At best for him, he might be able to block you so he could kill Mets (since I would be protected). I would get an innocent result on you and we would know that DGZ is scum. Even if he killed you to make my innocent result useless, I feel comfortable enough with the idea that Mets is town that Im willing to follow through on the DGZ lynch.

If DGZ is untargetable or investigation proof scum, mostly the same. Mets may die if he cabt be targeted at all but ill still get my information on Rage to point to DGZ being scum.

If Rage is scum role blocker, its highly unlikely hed also be investigation proof. So hed pretty much be forced to block me/mets and kill mets/me. Either way shows his hand and makes him the apparent scum.

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:14 pm
by dgz345
From Strikes posts everything points to me being scum :(

Can we setup some night actions that we should take during the night?

Mets --> Strike
Rago --> Dgz345
Strike --> Rago

IF strike dies mets did not protect him

IF Rago dies and hes roleblocker i should be clear

IF Mets dies rago is scum.

IF dgz dies i have no clue then there is a question about the RB on strike

1. Scum RB Strike
2. I'm immune to night actions
3. doctor mets have drugs that makes you sleep and rago was lying about RB.

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:16 pm
by dgz345
and if none dies i guess its me that looks guilty... tho strike gets his pass unless there is a mafia RB.

well I'm lost in spirals....

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:43 pm
by Metsfanmax
dgz345 wrote:From Strikes posts everything points to me being scum :(

Can we setup some night actions that we should take during the night?

Mets --> Strike
Rago --> Dgz345
Strike --> Rago

IF strike dies mets did not protect him

IF Rago dies and hes roleblocker i should be clear

IF Mets dies rago is scum.

IF dgz dies i have no clue then there is a question about the RB on strike

1. Scum RB Strike
2. I'm immune to night actions
3. doctor mets have drugs that makes you sleep and rago was lying about RB.


strike already proposed that yesterday: viewtopic.php?f=213&t=232479&start=225#p5149114. Please read more closely.

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:22 pm
by Ragian
Scum roleblock of mets and kill strike points to whom?

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:24 pm
by strike wolf
Ragian wrote:Scum roleblock of mets and kill strike points to whom?


You. Since DGZ shouldny be able to role blovk Mets and kill me if youre role blocking him.

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:11 pm
by Metsfanmax
strike wolf wrote:
Ragian wrote:Scum roleblock of mets and kill strike points to whom?


You. Since DGZ shouldny be able to role blovk Mets and kill me if youre role blocking him.


Agreed.

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:37 pm
by Ragian
Of course. Christ. This has turned into what I hate most about the game. Math. I can only apologise.

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:44 pm
by dgz345
strike wolf wrote:
Ragian wrote:Scum roleblock of mets and kill strike points to whom?


You. Since DGZ shouldny be able to role blovk Mets and kill me if youre role blocking him.


What about mets being scum and not being doctor?

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:04 pm
by strike wolf
i already explained why Im pretty confident that Mets is not scum at this point. Pretty much any logical possibility I can think of for him to be scum would involve me and/or Rage lying about our action. Yet if hes scum than me and Rage are town and there's no logical reason for us to lie. Therefore were telling the truth and Mets is cleared by circumstance.

I'm ready to put the plan in motion.

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:11 pm
by dgz345
strike wolf wrote:i already explained why Im pretty confident that Mets is not scum at this point. Pretty much any logical possibility I can think of for him to be scum would involve me and/or Rage lying about our action. Yet if hes scum than me and Rage are town and there's no logical reason for us to lie. Therefore were telling the truth and Mets is cleared by circumstance.

I'm ready to put the plan in motion.


go for it im ready.

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:57 pm
by Metsfanmax
vote No Lynch

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:17 am
by strike wolf
Vote No Lynch

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:25 am
by dgz345
**SUMMONS SKOFFIN**

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:27 am
by Ragian
vote no lynch

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:55 am
by dgz345
100% votes no lynch

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2020 2:18 am
by strike wolf
Soooooo. Its been about 2 weeks since Skoffin posted last.

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2020 3:29 am
by dgz345
strike wolf wrote:Soooooo. Its been about 2 weeks since Skoffin posted last.


Well just send the night actions to Skoffin and I'll drag her back...

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2020 3:31 am
by dgz345
On the forth day of the week she will decend to the mortal realm.

Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2020 7:02 am
by Ragian
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Re: Mind of Skoffin Mafia DAY 3

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 7:58 pm
by strike wolf
Should we check ir Aage is available to finish hosting the game?