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New Indochina Map!!!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:32 am
by spinwizard
As there is a middle east rework going on i made this, it is a indochina remake, i pm'd the maker of the map but he is no longer active no the site.

Problems solved-
better colours/graphics
cleared up some of the borders
added another contenent in the north 2 balence the map
lowers cochina bonus to 2
added bonus citys

Image

any other problems with the map?

This is a new map!

OPINIONS WANTED!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:33 am
by spinwizard
i need 2 clear up the borders still

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:59 am
by Exterminator
u need to get permission from the original maker before u do this

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:00 am
by spinwizard
he has left the site, what if i say it is just a new map?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:52 am
by gavin_sidhu
The only change i like is the lowering of cochinchina's bonus armies.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:54 am
by Wisse
you still need the map makers permission

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:56 am
by spinwizard
how would i get it, he has left the site

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:09 am
by Marvaddin
I think you are not allowed to edit his map, but you are allowed to do your own indochina map, and we can choose what map we want in the site. Remember that in the Developmental Atlas Indochina is classified as suspended development, ie, its not finished.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:39 am
by spinwizard
ok this is my new indochina map! (i drew it myself anyway...)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:40 am
by Ronaldinho
Well i wont play it, All it is the same map with a little gay bit extra.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:07 am
by spinwizard
what dont u like about it?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:15 am
by Wisse
Marvaddin wrote:I think you are not allowed to edit his map, but you are allowed to do your own indochina map, and we can choose what map we want in the site. Remember that in the Developmental Atlas Indochina is classified as suspended development, ie, its not finished.


you are allowed if the maker agrees (ask andy to email the player ;) )

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:15 am
by spinwizard
Image

new map with names and some changes...


ps andy can u e-mail the map maker

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:24 am
by Aries
I like it. It just looks so more inviting than the other indo-china map. :D =D>

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:26 am
by spinwizard
Aries wrote:I like it. It just looks so more inviting than the other indo-china map. :D =D>



thanks, that was the aim, 2 make it better looking and make some minor tweeks 2 the game play.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:06 am
by Coleman
I find the major city bonus slightly gimicky but I can't complain I guess. I was hoping you were just going to do a bit of an art update to it, but I can see this being a lot better then the origional as it stands right now.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:13 am
by spinwizard
i made the major city bonus so players have 2 battle over all areas of the map and the new north contenent is to reduce the souths advantage...what i am trying 2 do is make sure the bottle neck is less important...do u like the graphics??? and the new playability?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:15 am
by Coleman
I think everything is great, I just wasn't sure about the city bonus, but that has never really been my thing and it seems popular with most players so I don't really feel the need to press that issue.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:17 am
by Molacole
I don't like this map. Once you take Tonkin and north laos and hold it by using Ha Tihn and Bolikhamxai you're going to get a huge bonus of 8 plus a minimum of 4 troops making you unstoppable.

The problem is once you take North laos you can easily grab hanoi for a bonus of 4 and that will give you 7 troops a round to take over Tonkin.

That and the bonuses are adjacent and one has 7 and the other has 5 whch makes absolutely no sense to me... playability wise the map doesn't appeal to me becase everything has a ton of borders and it looks like the game would be based on the luck ofthe dice or whoever gets the first bonus.

The other battle will take place down in the south where people will go for Phnom and Phan Thiet which would give you 2 troops with 2 borders making it more appealing than the actual bonus territory of Chochinchina. So with those extra troops you get from that you can turn it into a bonus of +4 per round by taking the rest of chochinchina. 2 borders, 4 territories and +4? This looks about as appealing as stepping in dog shit on a hot day.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:20 am
by Bad Speler
If you take Cochinchina and phnom penh, you would get a bonus of 4 amd pnly need to defend 2 borders. Alsl there is no important city star in South Laos.

EDIT: ahh...molacole beat me to it on the Cochinchina/phnom penh problem

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:20 am
by spinwizard
u ever played indochina b4?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:26 am
by Molacole
no and I would never play it lol. The bonuses are all out of wack and the map bottle necks in the middle turning this map into a strategiclly gimped sloppy drawing that looks like it was copied off the intenet, thickened the borders, filled with paint in mspaint, and had the territory names rotated.

That and whoever gets the south wins the game...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:30 am
by spinwizard
and thats y i want 2 change it

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:39 am
by spinwizard
Image

is it better now???

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:10 pm
by Ruben Cassar
Forget about the people who do not like the Indochina map. They will never give you any good feedback because they are biased and they will always hate the map no matter how much improved it is. It is a matter of taste and they do not like it.

Personally I like what you have done about it BUT there are too many cities and the bonus for getting them is TOO high. Some player might get an unfair advantage at the start if they drop on all or most of them and then get to start for example.

Limit those cities to 2 or 3 at most. Consider making the bonus applicable if you hold all 3 of them and then make it only a +2 bonus for example. Also consider some sea links...those could add another dimension to the map.

Good luck!