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Earthsea [Abandoned]

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:40 am
by Telvannia
i have created a rough first draft.

i know i need to work on the textures of the land and the sea routes but i was wandering what people thought of the map so far.

FIrst Draft
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3426/mediumfontarmycirclesnh6.png

I currently have 50 territories and 7 continents (including Roke which is a continent by itself).

Any suggestions on improments possible to this map apart from adding textures to the land which i already know i need to do.

Types of Fonts
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/4259/typesoffontslo2.png

which font do you think is best?

Sea Attack Routes
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/4729/earthsea12ga0.png

Do you think these sea attack routes are alright?
If not tell me what improvements are needed

Banner and Bonuses
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7492/earthsea13aw6.png


Banners and Bonuses Part.2
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7911/earthsea14jo3.png

I changed the bonuses font, and added the bit about roke.
Any major suggestions or what i could do for the graphics of the land?

Attempt at Textures.

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9092/earthsea15tx5.png

I have attempted to put a texture on the green continent, tell me what you think of it. (The other territory names are still there just hidden)

All Textures

Image

Here is my map with all the textures added and the army circles showing.

What do people think of the textures?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:45 am
by Guiscard
Everything looks very small and its pretty impossible to read some of the names. They'll need to be much bigger. Also, you're gonna need sea routes...

I quite like the sea texture, its pretty neutral, and the colours are generally Ok, but I'd use a lighter shade of red. Its pretty overpowering at the minute, as is the purple to an extent.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:54 am
by Telvannia
Guiscard wrote:Everything looks very small and its pretty impossible to read some of the names. They'll need to be much bigger.

do you think i should make the font bigger or just change the font all together?

Guiscard wrote:Also, you're gonna need sea routes...

as i said in my first post i will deal with that a bit later

Guiscard wrote:but I'd use a lighter shade of red. Its pretty overpowering at the minute, as is the purple to an extent.

ok i will makes them a bit lighter

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:10 am
by mibi
Whats Earthsea? or is all this made up. Also i cant read the font, maybe bigger, maybe a more legible font.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:15 am
by Telvannia
mibi wrote:Whats Earthsea? or is all this made up.

This is Earthsea

mibi wrote:Also i cant read the font, maybe bigger, maybe a more legible font.

I find the text readable, i will try making it bigger first
if it is still not readable i will try a new font

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:21 am
by Guiscard
its not that readable a font. i think you could find an interesting 'fantasy' style font that's more readable but still fitting. And yes, the text needs to be at least double in size.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:30 am
by oaktown
mibi wrote:Whats Earthsea? or is all this made up. Also i cant read the font, maybe bigger, maybe a more legible font.

From the Ursula LeGuin books of 30+ years ago. Perfect size for a CC map. You even have decent bonus distribution - the smallest continent borders the larger continents, red is easy to defend but has no place to go, etc.

I agree that right now this is hard to read - pump up he font and show us how many attack route lines we're going to be dealing with, as the lines could really clutter things up.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:34 am
by Telvannia
Guiscard wrote:its not that readable a font. i think you could find an interesting 'fantasy' style font that's more readable but still fitting. And yes, the text needs to be at least double in size.

oaktown wrote:I agree that right now this is hard to read - pump up he font

I will see if i can find a new font to use

oaktown wrote:show us how many attack route lines we're going to be dealing with, as the lines could really clutter things up.

only thing is i have to draw my lines free hand, which makes them look bad,
does anyone know some programme i can use to place two points on my map then i makes a curved path for me?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:01 pm
by Telvannia
I have added a image with a mixture of fonts and a poll so you can vote for your favourite

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:33 pm
by RobinJ
Good idea for a map this - been quite a while since I read those books. Personally, I think there is too much sea - squish it in a bit more, even if it is not exactly like the real Earth Sea map. Any other immediate problems have already been posted by others.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:15 pm
by Telvannia
RobinJ wrote:I think there is too much sea - squish it in a bit more, even if it is not exactly like the real Earth Sea map.

I think if i squish it in at all as soon as i put sea routes in the map will become really messy, so i will leave it how it is right now.

As a side note, do you think it is a good idea to have it so that you can only attack into roke but not back out again? it would make it a great place to hold because of the bonus but it would be really unhelpful when you wanted to attack

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:20 pm
by HighCommander540
Lol, dangit...I really wanted to do the EarthSea map!

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:27 pm
by RobinJ
Telvannia wrote:
RobinJ wrote:I think there is too much sea - squish it in a bit more, even if it is not exactly like the real Earth Sea map.

I think if i squish it in at all as soon as i put sea routes in the map will become really messy, so i will leave it how it is right now.

As a side note, do you think it is a good idea to have it so that you can only attack into roke but not back out again? it would make it a great place to hold because of the bonus but it would be really unhelpful when you wanted to attack


I would say yes - good idea.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:34 am
by Telvannia
HighCommander540 wrote:Lol, dangit...I really wanted to do the EarthSea map!

you can still produce a earthsea map and see which one the people of CC prefer.

I will update the map with some sea routes in about 8 hours, i need to go to school first for some sleep.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:55 pm
by Telvannia
I have updated the orginal post with sea attack routes added in, please comment on what you think of the attack routes.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:38 pm
by RobinJ
Aye it's beginning to come along but still a long way to go (obviously). First minor problem, other than graphics, which I'm sure you will do later after attack routes, etc. are sorted, is the fact that some of the territories that have more than one island look almost a bit disconnected. you're gonna have to find a way to pull them together.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:54 pm
by Telvannia
RobinJ wrote:some of the territories that have more than one island look almost a bit disconnected. you're gonna have to find a way to pull them together.

I tried to make the army circles cover all of the islands in the groups or i tried to make the name show which islands are in the same group.
Have you got any other idea how i can show which are linked?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:01 pm
by Jafnhár
This could make an interesting gameplay.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:50 am
by Telvannia
update with bonuses and title (ect) when i get back from school in about 8 hours again

anyone else have any comments on the sea attack routes or on the type font im using at the moment?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:24 am
by DiM
could you keep updating the first post but also include the updates in your posts throughout the thread?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:42 am
by Molacole
the heart of your map has a bonus with 15 territories and 9 borders... :? I think it's wasted space and those territories should be put to better use.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:48 am
by RobinJ
Telvannia wrote:
RobinJ wrote:some of the territories that have more than one island look almost a bit disconnected. you're gonna have to find a way to pull them together.

I tried to make the army circles cover all of the islands in the groups or i tried to make the name show which islands are in the same group.
Have you got any other idea how i can show which are linked?


Just cheat a bit and move them closer together

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:47 am
by Telvannia
DiM wrote:could you keep updating the first post but also include the updates in your posts throughout the thread?

I will do that in future.

Molacole wrote:the heart of your map has a bonus with 15 territories and 9 borders... :? I think it's wasted space and those territories should be put to better use.

It is like asia on the classic map, is that a waste of space?

RobinJ wrote:Just cheat a bit and move them closer together

I have tried to do that with the update, tell me if there are any i have missed which are hard to see the group on.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:50 am
by Telvannia
Banner and Bonuses
Image

Here is my next update, as promised posted in both places.
Any major suggestions apart from the graphics of the land?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:48 pm
by RobinJ
I can't read the bonuses graphic very well - either enlarge it or define it better. Also, does it still run true that Roke can be attacked into but not out of? If so, it needs to be stated somewhere on the map and I think it is a good idea cos otherwise the green continent has simply too many borders.