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The Winter War 1939-1940 [idea]

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:06 pm
by HapSmo19
Hey all,
Obviously I'm new here but I thought I'd throw this idea out there. I've always found it an interesting subject so here's a snippet and a map I grabbed from the net. Check it out......

"For 105 days, the tiny nation of Finland fought a war that typically merits only a footnote in a history book, or a passing remark in a WWII documentary. Taking on the vast manpower of the Soviet army, the Finns put up a fanatical defense of their homeland, inflicting horrific casualties on the invading Soviet army. In the end, the overwhelming number of Soviet troops and tanks sent into Finland forced the Finns to sue for peace, but they walked away from the conflict with their much bigger neighbor with their independence and national pride intact. Their struggle influenced the landscape and direction of the entire world war that followed, and perhaps the outcome as well.
On the morning of November 30th, 1939, the Soviet Union unleashed its vast military might on its defiant neighbor. Soviet medium bombers attacked the Finnish capital of Helsinki, and immense Soviet resources in men and material surged across the entire length of the border in an attempt to crush the overmatched Finnish military and bring the defiant Finns in line Instead of the rapid Blitzkrieg type victory Stalin’s high command predicted, the ill-prepared and poorly led Soviet Army marched into a frozen, desolate meat-grinder, learning the meaning of “sisu”, a Finnish term that could be roughly translated as strength of will, determination, perseverance, and acting rationally in the face of adversity. Instead of fleeing from the vast Soviet onslaught, the Finns fought bravely, using their knowledge of the land, and pulling from their fierce national pride and “sisu” to inflict massive casualties on the invaders, and earning themselves the nickname of The White Death. The Winter War had begun."

MAP: http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost ... photo/7142

Theres a thousand lakes in Finland that would make for great impassables and as the Fins fought a great defensive and ambush war and I was thinking of maybe some kind of extra defensive dice (3 dice) bonus for holding three Finnish positions in a row or something....But I dont wanna get pushy here ;)

My two cents.

Re: The Winter War 1939-1940

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:14 pm
by t-o-m
sounds great ;)

Re: The Winter War 1939-1940

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:39 pm
by HapSmo19
Now all I need to know is XML :?

Re: The Winter War 1939-1940

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:49 pm
by InkL0sed
Sounds like a pretty cool idea. Can you use an image-editing program? If you don't get some kind of draft, this will be moved to the map ideas thread.

Re: The Winter War 1939-1940

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:59 pm
by HapSmo19
Can you recommend one? One with a help feature preferably.....and free?
I saw a thread here somewhere with alll the tools I'll need I guess but I've never done it before and am lost as to where to even start. If you can explain the process and programs to use I'll get started.
Thanks.

Re: The Winter War 1939-1940

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:16 pm
by wcaclimbing
HapSmo19 wrote:Can you recommend one? One with a help feature preferably.....and free?
I saw a thread here somewhere with alll the tools I'll need I guess but I've never done it before and am lost as to where to even start. If you can explain the process and programs to use I'll get started.
Thanks.



Read this page:
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=40463

And then this one: scroll down to the "And for image development, many users have sworn by:" section
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1410

Both are sticky topics at the top of the main foundry.

Re: The Winter War 1939-1940

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:16 pm
by InkL0sed
HapSmo19 wrote:Can you recommend one? One with a help feature preferably.....and free?
I saw a thread here somewhere with alll the tools I'll need I guess but I've never done it before and am lost as to where to even start. If you can explain the process and programs to use I'll get started.
Thanks.


Actually, I could do all of that for you... but I have a better idea. Your timing is pretty good. We're actually getting around to make a FAQ on the Foundry -- PM TaCkTix with your questions (you can quote this post to explain, if you like), and I'm sure he'll answer your questions. And you'll be helping us out at the same time.

Re: The Winter War 1939-1940

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:18 pm
by BrianHoef
I'd recommend Paint.NET; it's an image editing program that's free to download to your computer and, in my opinion, just as good for mapmaking as the $324632462934867439.00 Photoshop. I used it exclusively for the Fall of Rome map; take a look at that draft if you like.

There's a link to download it on this page:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1410

Re: The Winter War 1939-1940

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:16 pm
by HapSmo19
Cool. Thanks to all. I will research all those options and send that PM.

Re: The Winter War 1939-1940

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:55 am
by Qwert
I think that we have somewhere Finland war topic,from map maker who not finish these project :?:

Re: The Winter War 1939-1940

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:09 am
by t-o-m
qwert wrote:I think that we have somewhere Finland war topic,from map maker who not finish these project :?:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=17496&hilit=+finland+war

that the one you're refering to?

Re: The Winter War 1939-1940

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:30 pm
by HapSmo19
wow :shock: I swear to ya I didnt know that was here before I posted this. I even did a search for "winter war" and came up with some "winter" and some "war" but not that. I will still learn how to do this in my spare time though. If the mods would like to move this thread, thats ok with me. I'll re-post here when I actually have a draft. Thanks.

Re: The Winter War 1939-1940

PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:20 pm
by t-o-m
no that was abandoned ages ago, what programme are you using?
photoshop?
fireworks?
GIMP?

im sure this will work out good :)

Re: The Winter War 1939-1940

PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:12 pm
by seamusk
InkL0sed wrote:
HapSmo19 wrote:Can you recommend one? One with a help feature preferably.....and free?
I saw a thread here somewhere with alll the tools I'll need I guess but I've never done it before and am lost as to where to even start. If you can explain the process and programs to use I'll get started.
Thanks.


Actually, I could do all of that for you... but I have a better idea. Your timing is pretty good. We're actually getting around to make a FAQ on the Foundry -- PM TaCkTix with your questions (you can quote this post to explain, if you like), and I'm sure he'll answer your questions. And you'll be helping us out at the same time.


hell yeah. less pressure on me. =D>

I think this is a GREAT map idea. One of those events I know nothing about. I kind of have a full slate right now or I'd help with graphics or xml. Probably not up my alley anyway. While I find it really interesting, I don't know that the battle based maps are my cup of tea graphically. looking for more puns... be back later. I am definitely bookmarking and will follow the progress herein.

Re: The Winter War 1939-1940

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:17 pm
by R0k0v
Great Idea. =D>