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The Human Body (revived - 9th Update, pg 6)

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:05 am
by lostatlimbo
The motive here is to "conquer" either the male or female body.

THE BASICS:
68 Territories (67 non-neutral)
6 Continents (Male & Female Muscle Groups, Skeletal Groups, & Organs)
1 Neutral (The Brain). Can attack any muscle group. Resets to 4 neutral when held for one round*.
(*idea cribbed from Oaktown's Eastern Hemishpere map)
+2 for any 5 muscle groups in the same body.
+3 for any 6 skeletal groups in the same body.
+3 for any 4 organs in the same body.
Hearts can bombard The Brain
Red lines signify territory connections.

9th Update:
Dropped both Larynx territories because the space was too crowded, but now stuck with 67. Will re-add "Love" as a territory next update to make 68.
Now only Heart bombards The Brain.
Changed organ graphics for consistency between sexes and for clarity.
Changed font to all one style. Looks clearer on smaller map.

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8th Update:
Complete graphic & gameplay overhaul.
Still needs lots of work, but I want to get some feedback before continuing.
Text might be too muddled on small map.
Need to make more room for troop #s, especially in the neck area on both bodies.
Not sure about organ 'legend'. Confusing?

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7th Update:
Testing out troop circle highlights per a.sub's suggestion.
Lightened Highlighters an additional 20%
Darkened connecting lines (I think I went too light last time)

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Sixth Update:
Lightened Highlighters by 40%
Lightened connecting lines and removed drop shadow (to improve clarity)
Added border to legend

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q102/lostatlimbo/body_small5.jpg

Fith Update:
Removed "Breast" territory from Female Body. [INSERT JOKE ABOUT AMAZON WOMEN HERE] This makes a friendly, even 60 territories and also allowed me more space to spread the organs out in the thinner female frame. I've redone some of the connecting lines on both bodies and I believe this makes it much clearer.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q102/lostatlimbo/body_small4.jpg

Fourth Update:
Added 5 more territories* including Female Hand and Patella Bone (Kneecap) & Tailor (Sartorius) Muscle for both sexes.
*61 territories seems like an off number in regards to fair splits. If I removed the Female Hand again, it would be an even 60 - but I've had many requests for the Hand. Perhaps a poll is in order?
Upped "Bones" bonuses in accordance with additional territories. "Muscle" bonus remains the same due to ease of fortifying.
Changed "Veins" to "Vessels".

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q102/lostatlimbo/body_small3.jpg

Third Update:
Changed gameplay to comply with current XML capabilities and removed neutral starting information from the Legend.
Added some minor visual elements for more 'textbook' feel.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q102/lostatlimbo/body_small2.jpg

Second Update:
Major changes to overall style and look & color scheme. The theme now is "Med Student Textbook".
Cleaned up all connecting lines and re-organized territories for clarity.
Modified bonus structure.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q102/lostatlimbo/body_small.jpg

First Update:
"Zoomed" in on bodies for clearer detail (hopefully). Changed Penis & Vagina icons to Fig Leaves. Hand can no longer attack Penis & Vagina (or vice versa).

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q102/lostatlimbo/human_body_small_2.jpg

Original:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q102 ... _large.jpg

WISHLIST:
Holding Penis, Vagina & Love would reset BOTH Female and Male Brains to 10 Neutrals.

lostatlimbo

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:11 am
by edbeard
she is out of his league. he must be rich





will come with serious response in a bit

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:21 am
by cowgurll
can the penis attack the vagina?

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:22 am
by a.sub
edbeard wrote:she is out of his league. he must be rich

that or he has a massive penis I mean ... :oops: :lol:



on the map i find the passage ways to be HEAVILY cluttered, the concept is nice but all the tracks confuse my small mind :mrgreen:

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:48 am
by lzrman
cowgurll wrote:can the penis attack the vagina?


I knew this would come up eventually.

Could have a two way on this one.

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:27 pm
by oaktown
I've been around the Foundry for two years, and I've probably seen a half-dozen attempts at a human body map... and i can say with great confidence that this is the first one that I like.

Using two bodies is a nice idea that this has over past attempts, and i like the idea of controlling one body to win. I'm a bit squeamish about allowing the heart territories to attack each other... the penis can attack the hands? Eew.

In my humble opinion, simple is always better on CC maps. This map has a lot of attack routes and a lot of rules, and honestly I don't want to play a map that I am probably going to get my ass kicked on the first few times as a wrap my brain around all the ways this can attack that. And I don't believe your reset of the brain is possible given the current game engine.

Visually, I like the scientific look of the two bodies, but the rest of the map doesn't fit it - the parchment look and the old font isn't right for this map. The people look like they belong in a medical journal, not an old scroll. I'd say keep the people, and bring the rest of the map up to date.

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:49 pm
by obliterationX
Truce on penis - bladder ?

This could be a good map. ;)

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:27 pm
by sailorseal
I like the idea but could you give it a more medical theme

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:31 pm
by LED ZEPPELINER
what happened to the womans hand

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:19 pm
by MrBenn
oaktown wrote:I've been around the Foundry for two years, and I've probably seen a half-dozen attempts at a human body map... and i can say with great confidence that this is the first one that I like.

Using two bodies is a nice idea that this has over past attempts, and i like the idea of controlling one body to win. I'm a bit squeamish about allowing the heart territories to attack each other... the penis can attack the hands? Eew.

In my humble opinion, simple is always better on CC maps. This map has a lot of attack routes and a lot of rules, and honestly I don't want to play a map that I am probably going to get my ass kicked on the first few times as a wrap my brain around all the ways this can attack that. And I don't believe your reset of the brain is possible given the current game engine.

Visually, I like the scientific look of the two bodies, but the rest of the map doesn't fit it - the parchment look and the old font isn't right for this map. The people look like they belong in a medical journal, not an old scroll. I'd say keep the people, and bring the rest of the map up to date.

^^ What he said ;-)

PS. You don't need to list out all the territories in the 1st post ;-)

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:45 pm
by sailorseal
Could you clear up the attack lines?

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:58 pm
by ZeakCytho
This is by far the best first draft of a human body map to be presented. I agree with what Oak and Sailorseal said - the attack routes are a bit pixelated.

I'm not sure how effective the heart symbols are going to be. Rather than have them be able to attack each other, why not give a bonus for holding all of them?

Out of curiosity, why do the bones all lead to the heart?

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:09 pm
by lostatlimbo
Good feedback so far! Sounds like I will need to do some research on medical manuals.

In the meantime, I made a few minor changes that affected mostly look and gameplay. I wanted to get these down while they were still fresh in my head. I realize that the Legend is off at the moment, but that will change when I rethink the style (i.e. font, background etc).

With my next update, I think I will also add some color to the "troop circles", which will identify where those territories link to. I think that will help a great deal - as will synchronizing the color schemes.

Minor Update:
"Zoomed" in on bodies for clearer detail (hopefully). Changed Penis & Vagina icons to Fig Leaves. Hand can no longer attack Penis & Vagina (or vice versa).

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Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:22 pm
by lostatlimbo
oaktown wrote:I've been around the Foundry for two years, and I've probably seen a half-dozen attempts at a human body map... and i can say with great confidence that this is the first one that I like.
ZeakCytho wrote:This is by far the best first draft of a human body map to be presented.


Thanks!

oaktown wrote:I don't believe your reset of the brain is possible given the current game engine.


Who can verify this for certain? I really like this element of it. (So... true to life isn't it? ;) ) I will leave it in place for now, until I can make sure it won't work.

LED ZEPPELINER wrote:what happened to the womans hand


I had a hard enough time squeezing in the other female muscles. Its already a bit cramped and I don't think it is a big loss to not have a Female Hand as a territory.

ZeakCytho wrote:Out of curiosity, why do the bones all lead to the heart?.


In adult humans, bone marrow produces new blood cells.

The concept is that the Brain controls the Muscles, the Muscles controls the Bones, and the Bones loop back into the system by supplying the heart with fresh blood cells. This reflects the actual 'chain of command' when it comes to our real bodies. You can't control your bones, but you can control the muscles that move those bones.

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:10 am
by Juan_Bottom
Yup, great start, there isn't much to be said that hasn't been already.

And since there isn't much left that I can too strongly criti-size, that means this map will be stuck here for 9 months just like the trench warfare map... sorry... :D

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:14 pm
by pikkio
good idea an awesome first draft!

i think you must change some option on your drawing program, cause i suppose that the borders of your solids and lines are on "rigid" and not on "soft"... but it's only a guess.. ;) when my draws are so pixellated, the problem is that. ;)

good luck for this map!

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:57 pm
by sailorseal
Can you make the digestive tract line smoother and can you clear everything up?

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:16 pm
by lostatlimbo
Style Update:
Major changes to overall style and look & color scheme. The theme now is "Med Student Textbook".
Cleaned up all connecting lines and re-organized territories for clarity.
Modified bonus structure.

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Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:51 pm
by a.sub
i like this one better

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:52 pm
by the.killing.44
Yes, much easier to see, etc.

By the way, I think the penis should be able to one-way attack the vagina, too :lol: . But seriously, yes

.44

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:03 pm
by lostatlimbo
the.killing.44 wrote:Yes, much easier to see, etc.

By the way, I think the penis should be able to one-way attack the vagina, too :lol: . But seriously, yes

.44


Hahaha! According to my married friends - it is actually the other way around! :)

For gameplay, I think it is important for there to be at least two 'portals' between the male & female bodies. If the penis was a one-way attack, a player on the female side would only be able to get across through the "Love" territory. This would make for frustrating gameplay, in my opinion.

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:39 pm
by pikkio
the.killing.44 wrote:Yes, much easier to see, etc.

By the way, I think the penis should be able to one-way attack the vagina, too :lol: . But seriously, yes

.44


uhauhauhauha! :lol:

yes it will be realistic, but not good for the gameplay. better if penis and vagina can attack each others. ;)

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:11 pm
by a.sub
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Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:15 pm
by lgoasklucyl
Does 'X and Y start with 10 neutral' need to be written on the map? I feel like it's just something one will see when playing, and learn as time goes on.

Re: The Human Body

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:00 am
by edbeard
fyi, there is no gameplay feature that allows Hold X to reset Y