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New Map - Classic Supremacy

Posted:
Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:17 pm
by gideonkraus
This is an updated version of the classic Risk board, it adds in new countries making the total amount of countires 51 which makes the game fairer, but unlike the official version it also has a new continent called Antarctica.
Small Map
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/2498/risksmalltv1.png
Big Map
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3307/riskbigxv1.png

Posted:
Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:23 pm
by darkestnight
I'm the guy who's going to do the XML. We are very keen on making this map, and are eagerly awaiting your suggestions. Thanks everyone!

Posted:
Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:50 pm
by spiesr
No
We have a classic
and
another world is being deveoped
so why???

Posted:
Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:52 pm
by DublinDoogey
spiesr wrote:No
We have a classic
and
another world is being deveoped
so why???
I agree, and to add to the list, I don't like the added connections

Posted:
Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:09 pm
by citydomain
"No
We have a classic
and
another world is being deveoped
so why???"
"I agree, and to add to the list, I don't like the added connections"
Wow you guys are so picky, firstly the other world map in development is nowhere near as good as this one, and gives a change from the classic board which is unfair (due to continents being held so easily). The new connections on this map are mainly (it seems) from the new version of the classic risk board game except for the new continent Antarctica, which I think, should actually have been on the risk board anyway.
I think you guys should post more productive comments and should also not nitpick these guys work, it looks like they spent a long time developing drawing and making that map, if you don't like it then fair enough, but give constructive criticism.
Thumbs up for your map guys!

Posted:
Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:10 pm
by RexRegis
I have to agree with the NO
if the more accurate world map wasn't under development I would say yes, but with the classic and the more accurate map we don't need this.
but I like your spirit so try and think about a new idea and go for that...

Posted:
Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:14 pm
by mightyal
There are too many links. Your continent values are all wrong. 51 is a strange number of countries IMO.
Also, it is just to similar to classic to have any real appeal.
If it had 60 countries and another extra continent, maybe the arctic or USSR, it might differentiate itself enough to have some merit.
It is a pretty map though.

Posted:
Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:22 pm
by citydomain
"There are too many links"
Yeah I would agree with him there for one or two of the countires.
"Your continent values are all wrong"
I actually think they are perfect due to size and how well you can protect them.
"51 is a strange number of countries IMO."
What are you on about.
"Also, it is just to similar to classic to have any real appeal."
It really isnt I have played classic my whole life and I find this really exciting.
"If it had ..... another extra continent, maybe the arctic"
It does have the arctic, did you even look at the map look at the white continent on the bottom it is the arctic.
"It is a pretty map though."
Yeah I agree That why I like it.

Posted:
Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:26 pm
by spiesr
citydomain wrote:"
It does have the arctic, did you even look at the map look at the white continent on the bottom it is the arctic.
.
Antartic

Posted:
Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:27 pm
by citydomain
the arctic is antarctica its just abreveated

Posted:
Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:28 pm
by spiesr
citydomain wrote:the arctic is antarctica its just abreveated
Arctic=North
Antarctic=South

Posted:
Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:29 pm
by citydomain

meh well they both connect up

Posted:
Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:30 pm
by spiesr
citydomain wrote::P meh well they both connect up
WTF
They are completely oppostie parts of the world!

Posted:
Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:33 pm
by citydomain
thats if u look at a map, now think that north n south on a map are actually right next to each other

Posted:
Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:41 pm
by cowshrptrn
city domain wrote:"Your continent values are all wrong"
I actually think they are perfect due to size and how well you can protect them.
i don't know... Europe adn north america shouldn't be the same. Europe has a a two thirds of the countries of north america, i don't think the single extra border warrants it being worth as much.
Australia should be worth 3 or 4 since you added some extra borders
also, use
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instead of quotation marks, makes it easier to see who you are adressing where.
btw, on your map key, antarctic is the region, antarcticA is the continent

Posted:
Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:44 pm
by DublinDoogey
citydomain wrote:thats if u look at a map, now think that north n south on a map are actually right next to each other
still doesn't make any sense, east and west connect, as everyone knows, and a flat map represents a round world, so nothing in the north would ever connect to things in the south.

Posted:
Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:49 pm
by mightyal
The problem 51 countries is that you get neutral armies unless it's 3 player.
Continent values Antarctic 3 countries, 3 links is a 2/3 bonus
S Am 5 cntry, 4 link = 3/4
Africa 6,5 = 5
Australia 6,4 =4
N Am 11,4 = 6
Europe 8,5 =6
Asia 12,6 =8
give or take. I'm not an expert, but your values are way wrong.
There are too many difficult continents to gold and no easy ones.
By the arctic, I meant countries like Greenland, Svalbard, Iceland, Scandinavia. 20000 km away from the Antartic.
I think my comments were all constructive.

Posted:
Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:35 pm
by gavin_sidhu
Only thing i like about this map is that Kamchatka borders with Mongolia like it does in the real thing.

Posted:
Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:25 am
by Phobia
hmm yes, if you want this map to be quenched then you need to make it a lot different to the classic, maybe add a few more countries somewhere?
it is a pretty map, but w.europe looks deformed


Posted:
Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:50 am
by gideonkraus
Firstly I would like to thank you all for your comments.
In responce to phobia there are seven new countires compared with classic risk.
I have now changed the value of continents as requested and I have also added Russia (in red) and the Arctic (in silver)

Posted:
Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:02 am
by edmundomcpot
since siam isnt really used as a name for that area you could rename it to korea/vietnam
Japans a bit high up

Posted:
Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:07 am
by gideonkraus
According to the world map that I used and the ones I've just looked at in Google images, Japan is actually in the right place. Where do you think it should be, and possibly could you give me a link to a map, which shows it in the correct place?
Siam is actually the classic risk name given to that territory, which is a theme I have stuck to on the whole board, otherwise places like the middle east would have to be split into 15 different territories which would make the board too big. Is there a way I could implement what you say while keep up to the whole theme of this board.

Posted:
Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:21 am
by edmundomcpot
japan is the right place...i just got confused.. might be because youve done it as one island
dont worry bout siam thing...just a thought to counter people saying its too much like the classic map

Posted:
Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:32 am
by gideonkraus
ok thanks, I don’t really understand how its anything like classic, it has 3 more continents and 7 more territories, I do really appreciate any advice you can give me. Loads of my mates who all play this game cant wait for it to be finished.

Posted:
Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:41 am
by edmundomcpot
no problem..
Noticed three more things S. euope looks to be very fat, Iberian pennisula is connected to france strangly and scandinavia shouldnt be touching denmark....and thats my nitpicking over hope ive bin of some use