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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby stavros.maginty on Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:07 pm

shoop76 wrote:Really like the idea about the nuclear spoils, adds another element to the game for those who are interested.

However, moving the game data to the top I really don't like at this point. I guess I'm just so used to having it at the bottom that its hard to get used to. It does take extra scrolling.

Don't know why it gets changed, guess some people thought it would be better, but shouldn't these things either be able to be changed by the individual or if not at least voted on. Some people may make this suggestion but that does not mean that the majority are in favor of it. Just seems like something has been changed that has worked out fine.

Is there a way to create something in the game settings so each person can decide to put it on the top or bottom? This should stop all the complaints.


What he said.

It's a great update, love having the statistics and a new game element, but I can't figure out why the game data was moved to the top - before it was there for me to see, now I have to scroll every time. Sorry, but at least give us the option to have it on the bottom? Thanks for listening!
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby lackattack on Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:49 pm

Thanks everyone for the feedback. I intended to address previous concerns about the game layout, but it seems like the extra tweaks I threw in didn't go over well. In 3 weeks I will start another feedback topic with mockups to vote on (and I will stick to the mockups when making the next update :-) )

video_otto wrote:also why am i not getting reinforcements for owning an entire teritory?

I don't know... I don't think there is a bug, but you can post the details in the Question & Answers forum and someone will help you make sense of it.
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby Pedronicus on Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:03 pm

Hsur wrote:Will there be a new medal to get for the most nuclear kills?

No, the site gives you a one way plane ticket to Iran, where you get to tell mr Ahmydinnerdad how evil you were in the west with nukes.
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby notyou2 on Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:18 pm

Cool.....this gives new meaning to nuclear winter.
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby drwho1979 on Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:18 pm

There should be a medal now for the Nuclear Spoils. :D
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby sully800 on Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:29 pm

drwho1979 wrote:There should be a medal now for the Nuclear Spoils. :D


Well there aren't medals for any of the other card types so I wouldn't anticipate that too much.
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby mojo700 on Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:28 pm

Looking forward to trying the nuke spoils.

The game info and spoils at the top is TERRIBLE. The only thing worse would be a link to another page to get the info. Please change it back.
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby franny911 on Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:24 pm

Now I have a new way of blowing S**T up!! Even if it is myself.... LOL

Wait...


NO NUKES! NO NUKES!

that was my attempt at being a tree hugger. :lol:

Ok I am done! :D
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby potiusmori on Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:51 pm

Would I be the only player who might like the nuke text to be a little more useful?

When you trade in a cardset (non nuke) and you own the territ it shows up similar to the following:

2009-12-29 11:28:22 - potiusmori cashed in a group of Ireland, Sofia, and Mediterannean Sea worth 45 troops
2009-12-29 11:28:22 - potiusmori got bonus of 2 troops added to Ireland


however, when a Nuke set is turned in all we receive is a one-line statement (as follows):

2009-12-29 00:02:38 - potiusmori received 3 troops for 6 regions
2009-12-29 00:02:43 - potiusmori cashed in a group of I Nox, D IV, and A Luna nuking each region
2009-12-29 00:02:52 - potiusmori deployed 3 troops on L Ostia


I'd like something set up similarly to the "bonus of 2 troops added..." line that states that X territory was nuked and reverted to neutral. Preferably (if sensible wording can be attained) indicating who lost the territory.

i.e.

2009-12-29 00:02:38 - potiusmori received 3 troops for 6 regions
2009-12-29 00:02:43 - potiusmori cashed in a group of I Nox, D IV, and A Luna nuking each region
2009-12-29 00:02:43 - PlayerX lost I Nox to neutral player
2009-12-29 00:02:43 - Neutral Player lost D IV to neutral player
2009-12-29 00:02:43 - potiusmori lost A Luna to neutral player


I find it less informative when reveiwing a game log to only see the single-line statement regarding the nuked territories. it doesn't much tell if a nuke hit the player himself or another player, or simply hit a neutral.
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby natty dread on Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:35 am

potiusmori wrote:i.e.

2009-12-29 00:02:38 - potiusmori received 3 troops for 6 regions
2009-12-29 00:02:43 - potiusmori cashed in a group of I Nox, D IV, and A Luna nuking each region
2009-12-29 00:02:43 - PlayerX lost I Nox to neutral player
2009-12-29 00:02:43 - Neutral Player lost D IV to neutral player
2009-12-29 00:02:43 - potiusmori lost A Luna to neutral player




Good idea!
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby Dirty Dog on Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:18 pm

I am loving Nukes, there is definitely skill involved.
A question about the mechanics of the spoils cards.

Are they shuffled and all used up as spoils before being reshuffled, ie if South Africa has been Nuked is it safe to leave troupes on South Africa until all the countries have been Nuked.

OR as I suspect

Are spoil cards just chosen at random, so that one territory can be Nuked an infinite amount of times compared to another territory.

If this is so, is it possible that two players have the same spoil territory card simultaneously?

I am not complaining, all of the above systems are good, but I would like to know which is being used so that I can adjust my strategy accordingly.
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby AndyDufresne on Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:20 pm

Right now, Conquer Club does not use a traditional "deck of spoils" --- So when one spoil is used, it may come up again in no time.


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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby Mr_Adams on Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:25 pm

I may have missed the response, but I mentioned earlier that the game stats now tell more information than the log in fog/nuc games in the territory colum. you can't tell who lost terrs by a cash in nuc games by the log, but it is taken into account in the statistics.
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby Dirty Dog on Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:42 pm

Thank you Andy
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Adding armies to opponents on spoil trade ins.

Postby Luke035 on Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:42 am

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If this has already been suggested, I apologize; I haven't had an opportunity to read through this entire thread or browse the others. With the advent of nukes and the additional strategy choices involved when you may be forced to nuke yourself when you turn in a set of spoils -- I thought it might make for interesting game play on the flip side of the coin if the "flat rate" or "escalating" spoils games had variations where ALL territories of turned in spoils got a two army deployment - even those territories held by other players not turning in the spoils. So in turning in spoils to get your bonus, you may be forced to give your opponents (or a neutral territory) an extra two armies here or there.

It may not be as dramatic as being forced to nuke yourself and it may just be a bad idea in general when it is all said and done by giving TOO MANY game variation options. Just a passing thought I had. :roll:
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby cyrenius on Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:17 am

This new option is great, how about making a medal for it?
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:47 am

Gotta say after finally getting to test this one out. I really enjoyed it. Thanks for a cool update!
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby machrs on Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:24 pm

I like the Idea of Nuclear BUT.... you have to Nuke your own Positions....kinda silly to do that.... I wish CC would adjust this........... =D>
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby soundman on Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:46 pm

lackattack wrote:Thanks everyone for the feedback. I intended to address previous concerns about the game layout, but it seems like the extra tweaks I threw in didn't go over well. In 3 weeks I will start another feedback topic with mockups to vote on (and I will stick to the mockups when making the next update :-) )

You almost got those mockups done?
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby isaiah40 on Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:26 pm

soundman wrote:
lackattack wrote:Thanks everyone for the feedback. I intended to address previous concerns about the game layout, but it seems like the extra tweaks I threw in didn't go over well. In 3 weeks I will start another feedback topic with mockups to vote on (and I will stick to the mockups when making the next update :-) )

You almost got those mockups done?


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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby Mr_Adams on Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:57 pm

Has it yet been observed what possibilities are now present in assassins? has there yet been a game where two people's last territories are nuked simultaneously? :?
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby j35t3r.us on Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:40 pm

In a terminator game, if you cash in a set of Nuke cards and it eliminates YOURSELF from the game, who gets your remaining cards? And who gets your points?

I'd like to see it where nuking can't hit yourself. Would simplify everything.
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby eddie2 on Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:39 am

nuclear is okay but not when players start to abuse timing out to stop having to cash in as what is hapening in game Game 6255223 not only they have 2 v 1 but also playing reinforcing but not finishing shot to stop themselfs getting card 5
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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby Queen_Herpes on Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:05 pm

Put an end to the new endless scrolling format and change it back.

When Coca-Cola came out with "New Coke" in the 80s, they realized their mistake and changed back to the old formula.

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Re: Nuclear Spoils (and more!)

Postby captainwalrus on Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:26 pm

When people say change it back, does that mean change it back to what it was before there was the statistics for everyone, or to what it was like when they were first added?
I like the statistics, but not the layout.
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