Official 200 Maps Celebration

by **AndyDufresne** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:46 pm

cairnswk wrote:i luv the idea of the 200 map contest...well done, but I'm sorry for this samuel812 and Gilligan...two things...

1. Why is Trafalgar in one of the groups when it is still in Beta and has gameplay flaws - that shouldn't be allowed in the mix...please remove it

2. How the heck did you come up with some of these 4 groupings sam, when many of these maps are not comparable with each other - the voting on that one will be an absolute farce

I think groupings are all based on random order, via random.org.

--Andy

by **Qwert** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:17 pm

well if you ask me i will put grouping by years of creation.
Or grouping by -country-battles-fantasy-ancient

by **Ffraid** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:57 pm

Gillipig wrote:If you look back at the oldest games on CC you'll see that a lot of them was supposedly played on Classic, of course they weren't played on Classic but Classic art because classic as we now it now came about quite recently.

Actually... they weren't played on Classic Art either. If I remember correctly, that came around the end of 2008.

by **Gilligan** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:39 pm

Classic was originally, for the most part, what you would see on a RISK board.

by **pore_69** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:42 pm

The best map is Clandemonium

by **Ffraid** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:54 pm

Gilligan wrote:Classic was originally, for the most part, what you would see on a RISK board.

Yeah, I wasn't sure if we could say that or not. I thought maybe we were supposed to avoid any reference to the "R" word.

by **JRitchie73** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:01 pm

Doodle Earth is my favorite.

by **Leehar** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:24 pm

JRitchie73 wrote:Doodle Earth is my favorite.

It needs to be selected in the polls for the respective categories?

by **Ffraid** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:04 pm

How do you get to see the maps in the Spot The Differences Contest? I clicked on the link and all I see is the page where you enter your answers, no maps.

by **thenobodies80** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:10 pm

the map was unlocked at 18:00 CC Time, the form comes few seconds before the map but you should be able to see it now. If not try ctrl+f5.

by **Ffraid** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:07 pm

Okay, I can see them now. I did try it mere seconds after 18:00 CC time. Saw the countdown clock and everything else, but it's all good now.

by **betiko** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:12 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:the map was unlocked at 18:00 CC Time, the form comes few seconds before the map but you should be able to see it now. If not try ctrl+f5.

great thanks, spotted it all; so is it just for the fastest and is it possible to get a medal for each map?

by **Extreme Ways** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:25 pm

Yeah, does everyone who submits get a medal or just the fastest one? I can only spot 2 after 10 minutes of staring. :oops:

by **DiM** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:27 pm

Noël Bangma wrote:Yeah, does everyone who submits get a medal or just the fastest one? I can only spot 2 after 10 minutes of staring.

the changes aren't very subtle and are rather easy to spot.
but don't worry and take your time, EVERYBODY gets a medal if they find all differences. even if you find them in 2 minutes or 2 hours.

or at least that's what i understood from this:

samuelc812 wrote:For those who can correctly locate and identify all 5 differences for a given map, they will receive a General Achievement Medal!

by **DiM** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:31 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
cairnswk wrote:i luv the idea of the 200 map contest...well done, but I'm sorry for this samuel812 and Gilligan...two things...

1. Why is Trafalgar in one of the groups when it is still in Beta and has gameplay flaws - that shouldn't be allowed in the mix...please remove it

2. How the heck did you come up with some of these 4 groupings sam, when many of these maps are not comparable with each other - the voting on that one will be an absolute farce

I think groupings are all based on random order, via random.org.

--Andy

which is actually rather silly because some maps are niche maps and no matter how great their gameplay or graphics are they'll never be as popular as a more classic map.

normally maps should be aranged in the game finder according to various customizable categories and based on those categories polls could be created much easier. but such categories were proposed 3-4 years ago and haven't been implemented yet so there's zero chance they ever will.

by **betiko** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:42 pm

by the way do you guys have stats of number of games played of each map? i d be interested to see which ones are the most popular in terms of game played.

and a big thanks to all cartographers!

by **DiM** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:49 pm

betiko wrote:by the way do you guys have stats of number of games played of each map? i d be interested to see which ones are the most popular in terms of game played.

and a big thanks to all cartographers!

there were several attempts at keeping track of such stats but it never lasted.

here are some results from july
it's an average games per day rank. in other words total number of games divided by the number of days this map has existed.

you'll notice classic is by far the most played map, followed by doodle and luxemburg which are very popular for short 1-3 round games. surprisingly we can spot some non classic gameplay maps in the top 10)

Code: Select all: Classic 1309.14 1 Doodle Earth 215.29 2 Luxembourg 186.14 3 Feudal War 178.29 4 Arms Race! 148.71 5 World 2.1 116.57 6 Peloponnesian War 113.57 7 British Isles 99.29 8 New World 84.14 9 Age Of Realms 2: Magic 77.14 10 Feudal Epic 53.29 11 England 52.29 12 Poker Club 50.57 13 Korea 49.57 14 American Civil War 48.43 15 Australia 45.00 16 Route 66 42.86 17 Europe 1914 41.29 18 Greater China 41.29 18 Age Of Realms 1: Might 40.43 20 Canada 39.71 21 WWII Poland 37.14 22 Madagascar 33.43 23 USA 32.29 24 Cyprus 31.57 25 Treasures Of Galapagos 29.71 26 Das Schloss 29.57 27 Waterloo 29.29 28 Imperium Romanum 27.29 29 Egypt: Nubia 25.14 30 King Of The Mountains 24.43 31 Africa 23.43 32 Age Of Realms 3: Ma... 22.43 33 Golfe Du Saint-Laurent 22.29 34 Alexander's Empire 22.29 34 Italy 22.14 36 San Francisco 22.14 36 Age of Merchants 22.00 38 Iberia 20.86 39 King's Court 20.14 40 USA West 20.00 41 France 19.86 42 Clandemonium 19.71 43 Midgard 19.71 43 San Marino 19.57 45 Eastern Hemisphere 19.43 46 Jamaica 18.71 47 Charleston 18.71 47 Napoleonic Europe 18.14 49 First Nations Americas 18.00 50 13 Colonies 17.71 51 Europa 17.00 52 Indochina 16.86 53 Japan 16.00 54 Texan Wars 15.86 55 BeNeLux 15.86 55 Europe 15.86 55 Flanders 1302 15.71 58 USA Rockies 15.57 59 Berlin 1961 15.57 59 Arctic 15.57 59 Middle East 15.57 59 WWII Europe 15.14 63 City Mogul 15.00 64 Dust Bowl 15.00 64 Caribbean Islands 15.00 64 Brazil 15.00 64 Nordic Countries 14.71 68 Austro-Hungarian Em... 14.57 69 Scotland 14.57 69 Portugal 14.57 69 8 Thoughts 14.43 72 Cairns Coral Coast 14.29 73 Pearl Harbor 14.14 74 Siege! 13.86 75 Poison Rome 13.71 76 Third Crusade 13.43 77 Celtic Nations 13.14 78 Monsters 13.14 78 Germany 13.14 78 Middle Ages 13.00 81 NYC 13.00 81 Cricket 12.71 83 Battle For Iraq! 12.71 83 D-Day: Omaha Beach! 12.71 83 Asia 12.71 83 Vancouver 12.29 87 Atlantis 12.14 88 North America 12.14 88 Circus Maximus 12.14 88 Iceland 12.00 91 Duck And Cover 11.86 92 Greenland 11.71 93 Baseball 11.57 94 USA Great Lakes 11.57 94 Montreal 11.57 94 Stalingrad 11.43 97 Balkan Peninsula 11.29 98 Lunar War 11.29 98 USA Southwest 11.14 100 Malta 11.00 101 Great Lakes 10.86 102 U.S. Senate 10.71 103 Hong Kong 10.71 103 USA Southeast 10.43 105 WWII Western Front 10.43 105 Oasis 10.29 107 Ireland 10.29 107 Antarctica 10.14 109 Fractured America 10.00 110 Castle Lands 9.71 111 CCU 9.57 112 Central America 9.43 113 USA New England 8.71 114 Ancient Greece 8.71 114 Crossword 8.57 116 Austerlitz 8.43 117 First Nations North A.. 8.43 117 Hive 8.14 119 Halloween Hollows 8.14 119 High Seas 8.14 119 Discworld 8.14 119 México 8.00 123 Macedonia 8.00 123 Supermax: Prison Riot! 7.86 125 France 1789 7.71 126 Tamriel 7.71 126 Egypt: Lower 7.29 128 Holy Roman Empire 7.14 129 Chinese Checkers 7.14 129 Woodboro 7.00 131 Soviet Union 7.00 131 Haiti 6.86 133 WWII Iwo Jima 6.86 133 Space 6.86 133 Wales 6.57 136 Gilgamesh 6.43 137 Indian Empire 6.43 137 Conquer 4 6.43 137 Rail USA 6.43 137 South America 6.29 141 Philippines 6.00 142 Oceania 5.86 143 Archipelago 5.86 143 WWII Gazala 5.71 145 Madness 5.71 145 Transsib 1914 5.57 147 Thailand 5.57 147 Chicago 5.57 147 Netherlands 5.57 147 Bamboo Jack 5.43 151 Mongol Empire 5.43 151 Forbidden City 5.29 153 First Nations South A.. 5.14 154 USApocalypse 5.00 155 Unification Italy 4.86 156 Triple Alliance 4.86 156 Operation Drug War 4.86 156 WWII Ardennes 4.86 156 Egypt: Valley Of The K. 4.86 156 WWII Australia 4.86 156 Northwest Passage 4.71 162 Cairns Metro 4.71 162 Rail Europe 4.71 162 South Africa 1885 4.57 165 Unification Germany 4.57 165 Land And Sea 4.29 167 The Citadel 4.29 167 Egypt: Upper 4.29 167 Solar System 4.29 167 Midkemdil 4.14 171 Puget Sound 4.00 172 Dawn Of Ages 3.71 173 WWI Ottoman Empire 3.71 173 WWII Eastern Front 3.71 173 Thyseneal 3.57 176 Conquer Man 3.43 177 Battle Of Actium 3.29 178 Rail Africa 3.00 179 Rail Australia 2.71 180 Orient Express 1883 2.57 181 Sydney Metro 2.43 182 Draknor - Level 1 2.43 182 Prohibition Chicago 2.00 184 Extreme Global Warming 2.00 184

by **samuelc812** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:59 pm

cairnswk wrote:i luv the idea of the 200 map contest...well done, but I'm sorry for this samuel812 and Gilligan...two things...

1. Why is Trafalgar in one of the groups when it is still in Beta and has gameplay flaws - that shouldn't be allowed in the mix...please remove it

2. How the heck did you come up with some of these 4 groupings sam, when many of these maps are not comparable with each other - the voting on that one will be an absolute farce

This is a celebration of ALL 200 Maps which includes all of our current Beta Maps. These Polls are a snapshot of people's favourite maps at this point in time, of course Beta Maps are at a disadvantage since they may not have been perfected and/or played as much as the others. It is just a fun thing to do and i think you are taking it a bit too seriously to be honest, people are just telling us which maps they love the most in order to celebrate the diversity we have and i see no harm in that, if people find this fun we can do it annually and as we get feedback as to how we can run this better we will take everything onboard in order to improve for next time. So Traflagar will not be removed.

We decided the best way to group the maps was to do it randomly and give people a large amount of voting power (15 votes per category) so they can vote for a good amount of their favourite maps from all different options available, and i think we were pretty generous. Once again though i think you are taking it a bit too seriously, after all there is always going to be some complaints no matter how we grouped the maps but as long as we gave a generous amount of votes which we did (15 per category) then we could minimise it. Remember, 15 votes can go a long way.

DiM wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
cairnswk wrote:i luv the idea of the 200 map contest...well done, but I'm sorry for this samuel812 and Gilligan...two things...

1. Why is Trafalgar in one of the groups when it is still in Beta and has gameplay flaws - that shouldn't be allowed in the mix...please remove it

2. How the heck did you come up with some of these 4 groupings sam, when many of these maps are not comparable with each other - the voting on that one will be an absolute farce

I think groupings are all based on random order, via random.org.

--Andy

which is actually rather silly because some maps are niche maps and no matter how great their gameplay or graphics are they'll never be as popular as a more classic map.

normally maps should be aranged in the game finder according to various customizable categories and based on those categories polls could be created much easier. but such categories were proposed 3-4 years ago and haven't been implemented yet so there's zero chance they ever will.

If people really enjoy playing on them, they will vote for it, as i said to cairns this just a bit of fun to see what maps people love playing the most. Of course niche maps are at a disadvantage but they will still gain votes from their loyal players and that's what we want to see. It's not like the map with the most votes is going to receive a prize or anything.

~Sam

by **tec805** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:04 pm

man that 5th difference is a beast to find

by **MoB Deadly** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:05 pm

Geez, I cant find the 5th either :-/

by **theguard** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:37 pm

Thanks for making this possible! It still is unclear if it's 5 GA Medals for finding 5 differences on 5 maps or is it limit 1 per customer?

by **greenoaks** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:39 pm

i can't see any :oops:

by **agentcom** on Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:34 pm

How do we know if we got credit for it? I turned in my response, including my e-mail address and never received any sort of confirmation e-mail or anything. Why do we need to put in an e-mail if that's not what it's for?