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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby loenatiek on Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:43 am

how about setting a maximum for points gained bij joining? (, for example 40)
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby King Zvonimir on Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:54 am

TheQuietOne wrote:Before this month gets out of hand, I'm wondering if you've considered limits for the prizes for the top 5 based on their win % in any way:

Player A: Hypothetically, someone who joins 89 games and only wins 1 of each (+ 12 pts) ends up with 101 points.
Player B: Someone who joins 20 games, winning 8 Antarctic (+64) and 4 Australia (+16) ends up with 100 points.

Are we in the end just rewarding people who join the most games, regardless of how many they end up winning?

Do not worry, I will play ALL my games to win. :)
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:41 am

At a win rate of 25% (which is expected for 8p dubs) you should only need to join 16 games.

One could argue that it pushes gameplay down, but I haven't found that by looking at past challenges, when there was no top 5 reward.
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby King Zvonimir on Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:33 pm

But I love this game. :D
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby dildobaggins on Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:39 pm

14239769
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby Gilligan on Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:05 pm

dildobaggins wrote:14239769
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What about?
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby benga on Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:07 am

first to 10 wins on antarctica :D

love this farming medal :P
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby IcePack on Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:46 pm

Just out of curiosity, one of the players (aurora, currently 7th ) was a busted multi & guested. I assume guests will be removed from final scoring?
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby lokisgal on Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:51 pm

How can we see the entire scoreboard? Id like to be able to see how many games/points I still need but other players have surpassed me in their game count. Can the scoreboard be enlarged to show the top 100?

edit I got my 40 points tonight but still for others who are in games I think it would be nice to see how many morethey might need to join
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby King Zvonimir on Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:00 pm

benga wrote:first to 10 wins on antarctica :D

Gotcha! :twisted:
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby Donelladan on Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:48 am

benga wrote:first to 10 wins on antarctica :D

love this farming medal :P


Love it too, as my score says. And 1st at 14, see you at 20 wins benga :twisted:
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:21 am

lokisgal wrote:How can we see the entire scoreboard? Id like to be able to see how many games/points I still need but other players have surpassed me in their game count. Can the scoreboard be enlarged to show the top 100?

edit I got my 40 points tonight but still for others who are in games I think it would be nice to see how many morethey might need to join


Players need to check their own inventory for scoreboard systems.
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby Phatscotty on Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:56 pm

This is really a lot of fun! Thanks Doomer!
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby benga on Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:22 am

61 ants - 16 wins - 31 active LOL
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby IcePack on Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:35 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
lokisgal wrote:How can we see the entire scoreboard? Id like to be able to see how many games/points I still need but other players have surpassed me in their game count. Can the scoreboard be enlarged to show the top 100?

edit I got my 40 points tonight but still for others who are in games I think it would be nice to see how many morethey might need to join


Players need to check their own inventory for scoreboard systems.


Inventory doesn't keep track of your score so it isn't any help to know if you have 40+ points
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:05 pm

It indirectly keeps track of your score.
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby benga on Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:24 am

Donelladan wrote:
benga wrote:first to 10 wins on antarctica :D

love this farming medal :P


Love it too, as my score says. And 1st at 14, see you at 20 wins benga :twisted:


first :P
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby IcePack on Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:28 pm

Maybe to keep the mass joining at bay you can have negative points for X amount of losses (like, -1 for every 5 losses).
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby DoomYoshi on Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:46 pm

IcePack wrote:Maybe to keep the mass joining at bay you can have negative points for X amount of losses (like, -1 for every 5 losses).


I'm not sure I want to keep mass joining at bay.
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby gcwca_4_life on Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:58 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
IcePack wrote:Maybe to keep the mass joining at bay you can have negative points for X amount of losses (like, -1 for every 5 losses).


I'm not sure I want to keep mass joining at bay.

Why not?.


One person playing 300 of these games, and having 400+ points total, they had to have lost more than 80% of their games, and it should count against them.
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:48 pm

gcwca_4_life wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
IcePack wrote:Maybe to keep the mass joining at bay you can have negative points for X amount of losses (like, -1 for every 5 losses).


I'm not sure I want to keep mass joining at bay.

Why not?.


One person playing 300 of these games, and having 400+ points total, they had to have lost more than 80% of their games, and it should count against them.


Expected win rate is 25% since there are 4 teams.
King Zvonimir right now is 26.4%
benga is at 48.4%
loenatik is at 14.7%
Metalon is at 18.75%


So, as you can see; the players joining mass games are just like the regular players. Some are scoring amazing, some are average and some are failing.
The players that are failing (i.e. loenatik) are joining games with lots of different partners, taking a chance on new players. This is rarely an effective team strategy, but it is not something I would like to discourage. As a Community Team member, I want to promote those sort of inpromptu matches. It may be that loenatik doesn't make a single friend. I can say already though; I didn't know who he was in March. So he (she) is now a member of the CC community in a way he wasn't before.
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You say losing 80% should count against them. It does, in that they give lots of other players fog and doubles medals and that they lose points.

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Finally, we have to remember how punishment tactics will trickle down. Loenatik can afford to lose 100 points. I could just take them away and he would still be top 100. What about the little guys who are barely going to scrape their way to a medal? Can they afford a punishment? We need to remember that doubles is a team effort. If you can't find a good team-mate; or neither of you know how to play Antarctica; this could be an impossible challenge.

The participation points make it so that everyone who makes a legitimate effort can still get to the medal.

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In short, I understand your frustration. This scoreboard very much caters to the "hardcore" gamers. On average, this challenge should only require joining 16 games. I play about 5 games a month, so if I were to spend all my games on the challenge for the next 3 months I still might not get the medal (time limits notwithstanding). Even if I only rewarded wins, the hardcore players would still have an edge. I haven't heard any complaints about no waiting games, so clearly something is working. In the end, strive for your personal best. Nothing can take your pride away. You may have a job that doesn't allow you 10 hours a day on CC or no team-mates and that's fine. Not everyone needs 600 points. Everyone only needs 40 points.
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby King Zvonimir on Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:10 pm

benga wrote:
Donelladan wrote:
benga wrote:first to 10 wins on antarctica :D

love this farming medal :P


Love it too, as my score says. And 1st at 14, see you at 20 wins benga :twisted:


first :P

Sorry you got tired. I'm already on 30. :-$
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby Kingm on Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:50 pm

King Zvonimir wrote:
benga wrote:
Donelladan wrote:
benga wrote:first to 10 wins on antarctica :D

love this farming medal :P


Love it too, as my score says. And 1st at 14, see you at 20 wins benga :twisted:


first :P

Sorry you got tired. I'm already on 30. :-$


Benga is on 28, but you have played like 150 ant games I guees, and benga has joined 93 total, so I guees he has played 60 and probably only finished 50ish..

I am happy with my 10 wins out of 14 finished games so far :P
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby King Zvonimir on Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:29 am

But you need to have in mind that benga has a permanent partner, and I don't.
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Re: April 2014 - The Southern Eclipse

Postby benga on Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:17 pm

congratz zvone!
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