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Congrats to China
Postby mookiemcgee on Thu May 06, 2021 11:11 pm
Congrats China!!! You are now beating the entire developed world!!!! Can I get an amen Mrsdyk????
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/china-s-emi%20...%20-1.1599997
jusplay4fun on Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:41 pm
jusplay4fun wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
Congrats China!!! You are now beating the entire developed world!!!! Can I get an amen Mrsdyk????
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/china-s-emi%20...%20-1.1599997
That is a great thing to be noted for in this time of human history.
In case you did NOT click on the above link:
May 6, 2021
China's emissions now exceed all the developed world's combined
China now accounts for more greenhouse gas emissions than all of the world’s developed nations combined, according to new research from Rhodium Group.
Re: Global Warming
Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:19 am
For those that missed (or perhaps, ignored) this evidence in other threads on this topic:
Global Warming is due to man-made activity, to greater than 95% probability. The main factor is release of Greenhouse gases, mostly CO2, which has now reached unprecedented levels, over 300 ppm. What is the source of all this CO2? Simple: burning of fossil fuels, such as octane, a main component in gasoline: 2C8H18 + 25 O2 ...> 18 H2O + 16 CO2
Note that 2 moles of octane (C8H18) yields 8 times as many moles of CO2, carbon dioxide. Simple Chemistry. Ergo, CO2 levels go up, Greenhouse effect occurs, and heat is trapped and the average temperature of the earth increases. Ergo: Global Warming.
The evidence for rapid climate change is compelling:
"The current warming trend is of particular significance because most of it is extremely likely (greater than 95 percent probability) to be the result of human activity since the mid-20th century and proceeding at a rate that is unprecedented over decades to millennia."
Also:
"The planet's average surface temperature has risen about 1.62 degrees Fahrenheit (0.9 degrees Celsius) since the late 19th century, a change driven largely by increased carbon dioxide and other human-made emissions into the atmosphere.4 Most of the warming occurred in the past 35 years, with the five warmest years on record taking place since 2010. Not only was 2016 the warmest year on record, but eight of the 12 months that make up the year — from January through September, with the exception of June — were the warmest on record for those respective months."
All quotes from the same source, cited below;
https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
3) https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=228407&p=5125911&hilit=Global+Warming#p5125911Re: Global Warming
Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:19 am
For those that missed (or perhaps, ignored) this evidence in other threads on this topic:
Global Warming is due to man-made activity, to greater than 95% probability. The main factor is release of Greenhouse gases, mostly CO2, which has now reached unprecedented levels, over 300 ppm. What is the source of all this CO2? Simple: burning of fossil fuels, such as octane, a main component in gasoline: 2C8H18 + 25 O2 ...> 18 H2O + 16 CO2
Note that 2 moles of octane (C8H18) yields 8 times as many moles of CO2, carbon dioxide. Simple Chemistry. Ergo, CO2 levels go up, Greenhouse effect occurs, and heat is trapped and the average temperature of the earth increases. Ergo: Global Warming.
The evidence for rapid climate change is compelling:
"The current warming trend is of particular significance because most of it is extremely likely (greater than 95 percent probability) to be the result of human activity since the mid-20th century and proceeding at a rate that is unprecedented over decades to millennia."
Also:
"The planet's average surface temperature has risen about 1.62 degrees Fahrenheit (0.9 degrees Celsius) since the late 19th century, a change driven largely by increased carbon dioxide and other human-made emissions into the atmosphere.4 Most of the warming occurred in the past 35 years, with the five warmest years on record taking place since 2010. Not only was 2016 the warmest year on record, but eight of the 12 months that make up the year — from January through September, with the exception of June — were the warmest on record for those respective months."
All quotes from the same source, cited below;
https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
bigtoughralf wrote:So your main response is a deflection to what China is doing?
Does anyone know about CLEAN? I heard it was meant to commit the US to achieving net zero but can’t find any info online about what happened to it.
bigtoughralf wrote:I asked about America’s CLEAN Future Act and whether that has been put in place yet. You responded by copy-pasting a load of stats demonstrating that climate change does exist. I’m not sure you understood my original question.
For anyone who speaks English as a first language: has the US passed its CLEAN Future Act yet, and/or do you know what steps its government is taking to reduce the nation’s carbon footprint?
House Democrats Introduce Revised CLEAN Future Act, Readying Chamber for Action on Climate Change and Infrastructure
Friday, March 5, 2021
Background
On March 2, House Energy and Commerce Committee Democrats formally introduced the Climate Leadership and Environmental Action for our Nation’s (CLEAN) Future Act (H.R. 1512). The introduction of the bill follows the release of draft legislation by the Committee’s Democratic majority in January 2020. The updated version of the bill makes several significant revisions to last year’s draft bill to align with President Biden’s campaign pledges for climate policy. The sponsors of the bill provided a fact sheet detailing updates.
The revised version of the CLEAN Future Act would set national targets to achieve a 50% reduction in greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from 2005 levels by 2030 and a net-zero GHG economy by 2050. To achieve these targets, the bill would mandate regulatory standards in the power, transportation, buildings, and industrial sectors and authorize $565 billion in federal spending over ten years to enable deep decarbonization.
bigtoughralf wrote:Across the whole world CO2 emissions are 4.6 tons of CO2 per person per year.
12 major (10m+ population) countries emit more than double this amount, with those 12 emitting 34% of the world’s CO2 between them.
Four major countries emit more than triple this average: Canada, Australia, Saudi Arabia, USA. Between them they are responsible for 19% of the world’s CO2 emissions, about 14% of that is USA alone.
Did the USA’s CLEAN act pass yet? What is USA doing?
worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-per-capita/
jusplay4fun wrote:I do not agree with your data that you cite. I found it odd that you left out China. And India and Russia are also left out.
bigtoughralf wrote:jusplay4fun wrote:I do not agree with your data that you cite. I found it odd that you left out China. And India and Russia are also left out.
I left them out because their per capita emissions are far lower, and so there is relatively less they can do to reduce their footprints. Looking at your stats the average American is responsible for twice the emissions that the average Chinese is responsible for, so China's emissions as a country are higher only because their population is like 4x the size of the US.
It's like how if my children and I are a healthy weight and my wife is a big fat porker, and we needed to reduce our family food bill, the kids and I combined eat more than my wife eats on her own but it's her big fat KFC diet that it'd be easiest to make some cuts to.
bigtoughralf wrote:I asked about America’s CLEAN Future Act and whether that has been put in place yet. You responded by copy-pasting a load of stats demonstrating that climate change does exist. I’m not sure you understood my original question.
For anyone who speaks English as a first language: has the US passed its CLEAN Future Act yet, and/or do you know what steps its government is taking to reduce the nation’s carbon footprint?
jusplay4fun wrote:bigtoughralf wrote:jusplay4fun wrote:I do not agree with your data that you cite. I found it odd that you left out China. And India and Russia are also left out.
I left them out because their per capita emissions are far lower, and so there is relatively less they can do to reduce their footprints. Looking at your stats the average American is responsible for twice the emissions that the average Chinese is responsible for, so China's emissions as a country are higher only because their population is like 4x the size of the US.
It's like how if my children and I are a healthy weight and my wife is a big fat porker, and we needed to reduce our family food bill, the kids and I combined eat more than my wife eats on her own but it's her big fat KFC diet that it'd be easiest to make some cuts to.
I understand your point and I understand per capita. My point is that if the USA reduces 2% and China reduces only 0.2%, that does not help the OVERALL situation.
China is the #1 polluter and FURTHER, not reducing much. I think that the Paris accord gives the Chinese MORE TIME to meet CO2 emission reductions vs. USA and Europe.
AND YES, the USA is a profligate nation in terms of energy and resources usage. I lament the disposable society in our country. We throw away SO MUCH, mostly Plastics, BUT lots more, too. We waste ENERGY, LOTS of it. For example, many hotels leave a LIGHT on in EACH room, even when empty on weekdays. There is a story that President Nixon light a fire in the fireplace in the White House because the A/C was set TOO LOW,...! in the SUMMER...!! (before the Arab Oil Embargo). What waste. Also, I see people leave cars running for over 5 minutes when they go to visit someone in a house. There are TONS of other examples.
China’s power & steel firms continue to invest in coal
New coal power and steel projects announced in China in the first half of 2021 alone will
emit CO2 equal to Netherland’s total emissions, new mapping of the project pipeline
shows. A total of 18 new blast furnace projects with a total capacity of 35 million tonnes
per year and 43 new coal-fired power plant units were announced; if approved and built,
they will emit an estimated 150 million tonnes of CO2 a year. State-owned power and steel
firms have continued to build and announce new coal-based projects, even as China’s
leadership has pledged to aim for carbon neutrality and called for strictly controlling
“high-energy, high-emission” projects.
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