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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby oVo on Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:05 pm

I'm just hoping for a great NC Game in Pasadena... both these teams are strong
and should match up well against each other. Both are undefeated and have been
fortunate to overcome some tough challenges this season. I'd really like to see
both of these teams execute really well on both sides of the ball...

At 7-5 both Tennessee and Auburn are still excellent teams and the SEC is a tough
conference to dominate. Same goes for the Big 12 and Texas A&M also gave the
Longhorns a good scare much like Auburn did to 'Bama in the Iron Bowl.

Those rivalries can be counted on for some emotional play and a few surprises.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby colton24 on Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:33 pm

king sam wrote:
strike wolf wrote: It won't be a blow out of course but I think when it all comes down to it, Alabama is the betterteam.


you like the rest of the world are making the assumption of Alabama being soo dominant because of the last game that everyone witnessed for both teams.

Florida vs Bama & Texas vs Huskers

  • Bama barely beat the Vols with not 1 but 2 blocked field goals.
    P.S. The Vols went 7-5 this season and were never ranked -Doesn't matter. Two blocks is enough. What about the Nebraska game eh?
  • Bama got some bogus calls to help win the LSU game.-TOTAL BS. The evidence in video has to be inconclusive and that was absilutly debatable. Also LSU would still of had to score AGAIN
  • Bama escaped barely against Auburn due to the last drive of the game where Auburn held the greatest player in 09 (Ingram) to 30 yds and no TD's.
    P.S. The Tigers went 7-5 this season
-Wow the thing is we have, as stated earlier, had a lot tougher schedule than Texas. UTEP? Wyoming? LA-Monroe? Colorado?Missouri? OSU? Central Florida? Baylor? Kansas? Comeon play some REAL teams.
Texas had 2 games all season that were won by less then 10 points.
1 being a Conference Championship game against a 9-3 Nebraska team and 1 being against Oklahoma.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby oVo on Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:47 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
strike wolf wrote: TCU vs. Boise: is this the BCS's way of trying to prevent another upset where a non-BCS school beats a BCS team to prevent further discreditting of the BCS bowl system?

That's what I, the general consesnus of the MWC fans, and the general consesnus of the WAC fans believe. Considering the beat down that Utah gave Bama last year and the what not.

Utah was one of the best teams in the country last year, but the WAC as a conference can't be compared
to the SEC, Big East or Big 12 even if a couple WAC teams are capable of competing in any conference.

Looking at the final BCS Rankings, who do you think TCU & BSU could have been better paired against?
Oregon is the Pac 10 Champion and Boise State beat them the first game of the season 19-8.
Clemson is the ACC Atlantic Champs and TCU won at Clemson 14-10.

Putting TCU & BSU in the Fiesta Bowl is actually showing both undefeated teams a lot of respect
and is geographically a good location for both schools to collide in the national spotlight.

Texas and Alabama are both ranked above TCU & BSU... so who's left?
Florida lost a single game to the current #1 Alabama
while Cincinnati won the Big East beating Pitt in Pittsburgh
which nudged them ahead of TCU in the final BCS poll.

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December 31st
Sun Bowl: Oklahoma vs Stanford
January 1st
Sugar Bowl: Florida vs Cincinnati
Rose Bowl: Ohio State vs Oregon
Capital One Bowl: Penn State vs LSU
Gator Bowl: West Virginia vs Florida State
January 2nd
Cotton Bowl: Oklahoma State vs Mississippi
January 4th
Fiesta Bowl: TCU vs Boise State
January 5th
Orange Bowl: Iowa vs Georgia Tech
January 7th
The BCS National Championship: TEXAS vs ALABAMA
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby muy_thaiguy on Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:19 pm

I know that the majority of the WAC (outside BSU) can't compare to BCS AQ leagues (just don't tell FSU fans this, they think they ought to be ranked in the top 20 and play TCU), but TCU has what, the top defense and a top 10 offense? All it is, is a replay of last year's Poinsettia Bowl, except TCU's Offense is incredible and their Defense is even better.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBOWLS

Postby oVo on Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:23 pm

December 19th - New Mexico Bowl: Fresno State (8-4) vs Wyoming (6-6)
last game: Fresno State beat Illinois 53-52 . . . Wyoming beat Colorado State 17-16

December 28th - Independence Bowl: Georgia (7-5) vs Texas A&M (6-6)
last game: Georgia beat Georgia Tech 30-24 . . . Texas A&M lost to Texas 49-39

Bowl Games on Network TV
December 31st
Sun Bowl: Oklahoma (7-5) vs Stanford (8-4)
last game:
Oklahoma beat Oklahoma State 27- 0 . . . last bowl appearance, lost to Florida 24-14 in BCS NC Game
Stanford beat Notre Dame 45-38 . . . not bowl eligible last year

January 1st
Sugar Bowl: Florida (12-1) vs Cincinnati (12-0)
last game:
Florida lost to Alabama 32-13 . . . last bowl appearance, beat Oklahoma 24-14 in BCS NC Game
Cincinnati beat Pittsburgh 45-44 . . . last bowl appearance lost to Virginia Tech 20-7

Rose Bowl: Ohio State (10-2) vs Oregon (10-2)
last game:
Ohio State beat Michigan 21-10 . . . last bowl appearance lost to Texas 24-21
Oregon beat Oregon State 37-33 . . . last bowl appearance beat Oklahoma State 42-31

Capital One Bowl: Penn State (10-2) vs LSU (9-3)
last game:
Penn State beat Michigan State 42-14 . . . last bowl appearance lost to USC 38-24
LSU beat Arkansas 33-30 . . . last bowl appearance beat Georgia Tech 38-3

Gator Bowl: West Virginia (9-3) vs Florida State (6-6)
last game:
West Virginia beat Rutgers 24-21 . . . last bowl appearance beat North Carolina 31-30
Florida State lost to Florida 37-10 . . . last bowl appearance beat Wisconsin 42-13

January 2nd
Cotton Bowl: Oklahoma State (9-3) vs Mississippi (8-4)
last game:
Oklahoma State lost to Oklahoma 27-0 . . . last bowl appearance lost to Oregon 42-31
Mississippi lost to Mississippi State 41-27 . . . last bowl appearance upset Texas Tech 47-34

January 4th
Fiesta Bowl: TCU (12-0) vs Boise State (13-0)
last game:
TCU beat New Mexico 51-10 . . . last bowl appearance upset Boise State 17-16
Boise State beat New Mexico State 42-7

January 5th
Orange Bowl: Iowa (10-2) vs Georgia Tech (11-2)
last game:
Iowa beat Minnesota 12-0 . . . last bowl appearance beat South Carolina 31-10
Georgia Tech beat Clemson 39-34 . . . last bowl appearance lost to LSU 39-3

January 7th
The BCS National Championship: #2TEXAS (13-0) vs #1ALABAMA (13-0)
last game:
Texas beat Nebraska 13-12 . . . last bowl appearance beat Ohio State 24-21
Alabama beat Florida 32-13 . . . last bowl appearance was upset by Utah 31-17
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBOWLS

Postby king sam on Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:21 am

My predicted winners underlined

December 19th -New Mexico Bowl: Fresno State (8-4) vs Wyoming (6-6)

December 28th - Independence Bowl: Georgia (7-5) vs Texas A&M (6-6)

Bowl Games on Network TV
December 31st
Sun Bowl: Oklahoma (7-5) vs Stanford (8-4)

January 1st
Sugar Bowl: Florida (12-1) vs Cincinnati (12-0). . . although I will be routing for Cincy

Rose Bowl: Ohio State (10-2) vs Oregon (10-2)

Capital One Bowl: Penn State (10-2) vs LSU (9-3)

Gator Bowl: West Virginia (9-3) vs Florida State (6-6)

January 2nd
Cotton Bowl: Oklahoma State (9-3) vs Mississippi (8-4)

January 4th
Fiesta Bowl: TCU (12-0) vs Boise State (13-0)

January 5th
Orange Bowl: Iowa (10-2) vs Georgia Tech (11-2)

January 7th
The BCS National Championship: #2 TEXAS (13-0) vs #1 ALABAMA (13-0)
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby strike wolf on Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:40 am

king sam wrote:
strike wolf wrote: It won't be a blow out of course but I think when it all comes down to it, Alabama is the betterteam.


you like the rest of the world are making the assumption of Alabama being soo dominant because of the last game that everyone witnessed for both teams.

Florida vs Bama & Texas vs Huskers

  • Bama barely beat the Vols with not 1 but 2 blocked field goals.
    P.S. The Vols went 7-5 this season and were never ranked
  • Bama got some bogus calls to help win the LSU game.
  • Bama escaped barely against Auburn due to the last drive of the game where Auburn held the greatest player in 09 (Ingram) to 30 yds and no TD's.
    P.S. The Tigers went 7-5 this season

Texas had 2 games all season that were won by less then 10 points.
1 being a Conference Championship game against a 9-3 Nebraska team and 1 being against Oklahoma.


I'm judging it by the last game and yet I've been saying Alabama's the best team in the country all year long. Also am I wrong or did Oklahoma go 6-6 this year? I give Texas what they deserve as one of the best teams in the nation and I am far from saying they aren't the best team in the nation. I am also not saying this because of either teams last game. Alabama's last game did help solidify my opinion as they quite simply dominated a very talented Florida team who also belongs amongst the top 5 teams in the nation and I recognize that Nebraska is not a push over team. I'm sticking to what I've been saying this whole time. I believe that Alabama will win a close game and I maintain my position that it is a game that Texas can win.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBOWLS

Postby strike wolf on Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:48 am

Note: this is pretty much copied and pasted from KOS' post just changed where I felt it would be a different winner.

[My predicted winners underlined

December 19th -New Mexico Bowl: Fresno State (8-4) vs Wyoming (6-6)

December 28th - Independence Bowl: Georgia (7-5) vs Texas A&M (6-6)
I think Georgia gained some confidence from the GT game that will carry over into this match up.

Bowl Games on Network TV
December 31st
Sun Bowl: Oklahoma (7-5) vs Stanford (8-4)

January 1st
Sugar Bowl: Florida (12-1) vs Cincinnati (12-0). . .

Rose Bowl: Ohio State (10-2) vs Oregon (10-2)

Capital One Bowl: Penn State (10-2) vs LSU (9-3)

Gator Bowl: West Virginia (9-3) vs Florida State (6-6)

January 2nd
Cotton Bowl: Oklahoma State (9-3) vs Mississippi (8-4)
I think OSU is actually the better team but I think Ole Miss still wins.

January 4th
Fiesta Bowl: TCU (12-0) vs Boise State (13-0)

January 5th
Orange Bowl: Iowa[ (10-2) vs Georgia Tech (11-2)
I really hope we're both right on this one.

January 7th
The BCS National Championship: #2 TEXAS (13-0) vs #1 ALABAMA (13-0)
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby oVo on Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:54 am

There is only one game in this group that I feel confident it may be a mismatch and that's West Virginia/Florida State. The defense has been non-existant for the Seminoles all year and I just don't think the fact that this is Bowdens last game at the helm can correct that problem for this game. With one other exception the rest of this batch might be full of surprises.

New Mexico Bowl: Fresno State (8-4) vs Wyoming (6-6)
The Cowboys defense may keep them in this game for awhile, but the lack of offense will seal their fate.
Independence Bowl: Georgia (7-5) vs Texas A&M (6-6)
Should both of these teams play up to their capabilities this will be a very entertaining game,
but if the Aggies' QB plays like he did against Texas, then I expect A&M to win this one.

Sun Bowl: Oklahoma (7-5) vs Stanford (8-4)

Sugar Bowl: Florida (12-1) vs Cincinnati (12-0)
If Pike gets it rolling against the Gators look out, but Florida has a good pass defense.
Rose Bowl: Ohio State (10-2) vs Oregon (10-2)
The Buckeyes have a good pass defense and the wild card here is if Terrelle Pryor can have a big game.
Capital One Bowl: Penn State (10-2) vs LSU (9-3)

Gator Bowl: West Virginia (9-3) vs Florida State (6-6)

Cotton Bowl: Oklahoma State (9-3) vs Mississippi (8-4)

Fiesta Bowl: TCU (12-0) vs Boise State (13-0)
The Frogs just might be the best team in the country, but this a chance for the Broncos to avenge last year's upset.
Orange Bowl: Iowa (10-2) vs Georgia Tech (11-2)
If the Iowa defense shows up like they have all year it will be a long day for the Rambling Wreck.
BCS National Championship: #2TEXAS (13-0) vs #1ALABAMA (13-0)
Both of these teams have shown a lot of grit and determination in finding ways to win and I don't anticipate either team dominating here. It's time for McCoy and Shipley to step up again, make some magic and win this one.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby muy_thaiguy on Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:24 am

The Cowboys defense may keep them in this game for awhile, but the lack of offense will seal their fate.
I don't know. Usually, a defense needs to actually do it's job. FSU may score a lot of points, so do nearly all the other teams they play. Also, even their own head coach has admitted that mobile QBs are a main weakness for their defense, which Wyoming just so happens to have in Austyn Carta-Samuels.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby oVo on Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:50 am

Well that's a big key right there, if Wyoming can generate some offense
they should be able to make a game of it. I don't doubt the Cowboys on
defense, it's time of possession and generating points on offense that
might be too much to overcome.

I'll be rooting for 'em, I love a hard fighting underdog and Wyoming has
faced some better teams than FSU this year and hung tough.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby muy_thaiguy on Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:27 am

oVo wrote:Well that's a big key right there, if Wyoming can generate some offense
they should be able to make a game of it. I don't doubt the Cowboys on
defense, it's time of possession and generating points on offense that
might be too much to overcome.

I'll be rooting for 'em, I love a hard fighting underdog and Wyoming has
faced some better teams than FSU this year and hung tough.

Yeah. A popular saying that is now coming up is that the Cowboys are becoming Cowboy tough again.
Should also keep your eyes on next year's team. We have some WRs that played for Snow College that are quite good (seeing them play and only looking at their star numbers are quite different), a big O-linemen, and a high ranked Canadian player.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby king sam on Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:51 am

lol.. colton u make me laugh.
im laughing at you, not with you
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby king sam on Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:44 am

if anyone wants to do a bowl pick em I created a group on the ESPN site so we can all do it together and see whos predictions are the most accurate.

Heres the link:
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make an account with ESPN if you dont already have one

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  • In the search box type in the league name Conquer Club
  • Password is CC Pick em

Then your in, select your name and make your picks.

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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby TheMissionary on Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:08 pm

I had one already posted earlier, still join yours though :)
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby king sam on Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:21 pm

TheMissionary wrote:I had one already posted earlier, still join yours though :)


yeah I saw it afterwards, but didnt know who had made it... i will join that one as well..
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby muy_thaiguy on Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:57 am

You guys hear about the Big 10 and Pac 10 talking about expanding? It has become the dominant topic at the MWC forums, and has quite a few posters there on edge, as possible targets for Pac 10 expansion (as it is really the threatening one) are BYU (unlikely at least due to politics), Utah, and Colorado. This is getting people more and more on edge as the MWC was on the verge of becoming an AQ league and BCS buster, up until the Fiesta Bowl (2 non AQ teams pitted against eachother) and now AQ conferences looking to expand with the most probably choices being the MWC.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby oVo on Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:04 am

No I hadn't heard and it doesn't sound like such a great idea to me.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby strike wolf on Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:21 am

I don't know anything about the Pac 10 but I know that the Big 10 was thinking Missouri.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby Optimus Prime on Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:09 pm

I find it difficult to believe that any of the Mountain West schools are going to leave for another conference. They are currently sitting pretty right where they are and are in prime position to gain a BCS automatic-qualifier status (which I do believe will happen). To leave for other conferences would do nothing but be to take bigger steps backward than it's worth.

Look for Boise State to join the MWC by 2012 in order for the MWC to get it's auto-qualifier status.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby oVo on Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:44 pm

Boise State joining the MWC and playing the likes of TCU, Utah, BYU... and of course Wyoming
would be beneficial to the credibility of the Conference.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby Woodruff on Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:12 pm

oVo wrote:Boise State joining the MWC and playing the likes of TCU, Utah, BYU... and of course Wyoming
would be beneficial to the credibility of the Conference.


Man, the Air Force Academy doesn't get any respect any more...
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby muy_thaiguy on Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:34 pm

Woodruff wrote:
oVo wrote:Boise State joining the MWC and playing the likes of TCU, Utah, BYU... and of course Wyoming
would be beneficial to the credibility of the Conference.


Man, the Air Force Academy doesn't get any respect any more...

Actually, it is pretty much the only school that isn't really ripped on in the conference.

Optimus Prime wrote:I find it difficult to believe that any of the Mountain West schools are going to leave for another conference. They are currently sitting pretty right where they are and are in prime position to gain a BCS automatic-qualifier status (which I do believe will happen). To leave for other conferences would do nothing but be to take bigger steps backward than it's worth.

Look for Boise State to join the MWC by 2012 in order for the MWC to get it's auto-qualifier status.
I'm hoping that the MWC does hold together, and I want it to. However, I have seen fans and read some articles that show that Utah, BYU, and TCU if offered before the MWC becomes AQ, might just leave. Speculation for now, and I am hoping the PAC 10 does not officially expand for another couple of years, as they are the only actual threat to breaking up the MWC, and in a few years, the MWC will most likely be AQ.

And I don't see BSU becoming a MWC school until 2012 as BSU and Wyoming have OOC games against eachother next year and I believe 2011.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby Woodruff on Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:22 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
oVo wrote:Boise State joining the MWC and playing the likes of TCU, Utah, BYU... and of course Wyoming
would be beneficial to the credibility of the Conference.


Man, the Air Force Academy doesn't get any respect any more...

Actually, it is pretty much the only school that isn't really ripped on in the conference.

Optimus Prime wrote:I find it difficult to believe that any of the Mountain West schools are going to leave for another conference. They are currently sitting pretty right where they are and are in prime position to gain a BCS automatic-qualifier status (which I do believe will happen). To leave for other conferences would do nothing but be to take bigger steps backward than it's worth.

Look for Boise State to join the MWC by 2012 in order for the MWC to get it's auto-qualifier status.
I'm hoping that the MWC does hold together, and I want it to. However, I have seen fans and read some articles that show that Utah, BYU, and TCU if offered before the MWC becomes AQ, might just leave. Speculation for now, and I am hoping the PAC 10 does not officially expand for another couple of years, as they are the only actual threat to breaking up the MWC, and in a few years, the MWC will most likely be AQ.

And I don't see BSU becoming a MWC school until 2012 as BSU and Wyoming have OOC games against eachother next year and I believe 2011.


I would NOT worry about it in the slightest. There's been this sort of talk for Big Twelve teams since we were back in the Big Eight days (Colorado to the PacTen and Missouri to the BigTen). Frankly, both of those conferences are far too uppity for it to happen.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby TheMissionary on Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:04 pm

Muy where did you get your bowl game signature?
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