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Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:30 am
by AAFitz
GiggleInDeath wrote:
Falkomagno wrote:For religious people, this is the undeniable prove that God is not around, or if exists, is evil.

If you're pathetically simple-minded and arrogant, sure.


I wouldnt maybe go that far, but I without a doubt this isnt the time or the place for that.

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:33 am
by GiggleInDeath
AAFitz wrote:
GiggleInDeath wrote:
Falkomagno wrote:For religious people, this is the undeniable prove that God is not around, or if exists, is evil.

If you're pathetically simple-minded and arrogant, sure.


I wouldnt maybe go that far, but I without a doubt this isnt the time or the place for that.

I realise I wasn't very clear, but I don't mean those suffering may think God doesn't exist. My post was directed at Falkomagno.

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:34 am
by AAFitz
GiggleInDeath wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
GiggleInDeath wrote:
Falkomagno wrote:For religious people, this is the undeniable prove that God is not around, or if exists, is evil.

If you're pathetically simple-minded and arrogant, sure.


I wouldnt maybe go that far, but I without a doubt this isnt the time or the place for that.

I realise I wasn't very clear, but I don't mean those suffering may think God doesn't exist. My post was directed at Falkomagno.


hmm..perhaps i wasnt clear either...I meant it wasnt a time or place for his comment.

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:35 am
by GiggleInDeath
AAFitz wrote:
GiggleInDeath wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
GiggleInDeath wrote:
Falkomagno wrote:For religious people, this is the undeniable prove that God is not around, or if exists, is evil.

If you're pathetically simple-minded and arrogant, sure.


I wouldnt maybe go that far, but I without a doubt this isnt the time or the place for that.

I realise I wasn't very clear, but I don't mean those suffering may think God doesn't exist. My post was directed at Falkomagno.


hmm..perhaps i wasnt clear either...I meant it wasnt a time or place for his comment.

Oh, haha. That makes sense.

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:40 am
by Falkomagno
AAFitz wrote:
GiggleInDeath wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
GiggleInDeath wrote:
Falkomagno wrote:For religious people, this is the undeniable prove that God is not around, or if exists, is evil.

If you're pathetically simple-minded and arrogant, sure.


I wouldnt maybe go that far, but I without a doubt this isnt the time or the place for that.

I realise I wasn't very clear, but I don't mean those suffering may think God doesn't exist. My post was directed at Falkomagno.


hmm..perhaps i wasnt clear either...I meant it wasnt a time or place for his comment.


My comment is a deeply ontological reflexion about the existence of God. His response, in the other hand is a childish flame. I don’t see how you rather the former.

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:44 am
by AAFitz
Falkomagno wrote:My comment is a deeply ontological reflexion about the existence of God. His response, in the other hand is a childish flame. I don’t see how you rather the former.


I don't "rather" either. I only posted that its not the time or place to discuss such things....

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:48 am
by Falkomagno
AAFitz wrote:
GiggleInDeath wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
GiggleInDeath wrote:
Falkomagno wrote:For religious people, this is the undeniable prove that God is not around, or if exists, is evil.

If you're pathetically simple-minded and arrogant, sure.


I wouldnt maybe go that far, but I without a doubt this isnt the time or the place for that.

I realise I wasn't very clear, but I don't mean those suffering may think God doesn't exist. My post was directed at Falkomagno.


hmm..perhaps i wasnt clear either...I meant it wasnt a time or place for his comment.


sorry, maybe i read wrong.

But I agree, in the sense that this is not the right place to discuss such a things.

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:47 pm
by DAZMCFC
GiggleInDeath wrote:
Falkomagno wrote:For religious people, this is the undeniable prove that God is not around, or if exists, is evil.

If you're pathetically simple-minded and arrogant, sure.



did you read ALL of his post?

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:43 pm
by pimpdave

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:40 pm
by jbrettlip
Why is there no talk about how Brangelina have given more money to the relief than the CHINA?? USA, who everyone hates, sends troops supplies and $100 million. Europe does nothing as usual. Why don't you send your universal healthcare down there?

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:14 pm
by Titanic
jbrettlip wrote:Why is there no talk about how Brangelina have given more money to the relief than the CHINA?? USA, who everyone hates, sends troops supplies and $100 million. Europe does nothing as usual. Why don't you send your universal healthcare down there?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_t ... ake#Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_t ... pean_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_t ... anizations

Yer..."Europe does nothing as usual"...

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:24 pm
by jbrettlip
Titanic wrote:
jbrettlip wrote:Why is there no talk about how Brangelina have given more money to the relief than the CHINA?? USA, who everyone hates, sends troops supplies and $100 million. Europe does nothing as usual. Why don't you send your universal healthcare down there?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_t ... ake#Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_t ... pean_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_t ... anizations

Yer..."Europe does nothing as usual"...


Sorry I guess I should have said, Europe does very little compared to the US.

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:39 pm
by GloryOfThe80s
jbrettlip wrote:
Titanic wrote:
jbrettlip wrote:Why is there no talk about how Brangelina have given more money to the relief than the CHINA?? USA, who everyone hates, sends troops supplies and $100 million. Europe does nothing as usual. Why don't you send your universal healthcare down there?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_t ... ake#Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_t ... pean_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_t ... anizations

Yer..."Europe does nothing as usual"...


Sorry I guess I should have said, Europe does very little compared to the US.


Actually, there is a surprisingly low maximum amount of money the EU can send over or donate at a time or at least that's how it was reported in the media here in Belgium

I wouldn't be too surprised if in the end Europe will spend just as much or more for relief as the US - give these things time. Yes I realise time is of the essence in instances like this - but you shouldn't be so quick to judge just because you're biased for some reason

EDIT: also, this is right at the doorstep of the US - Europe is on another continent so the fact that the US was able to react quicker with the navy already in the area is only natural

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:49 pm
by neanderpaul14
Wow now the Haitian Prime Minister is saying probably more than 100,000 dead. That's about 1% of their entire population. That is horrible.

Also I was watching the news about the relief effort. The U.N. have areas set up to distribute food in a, more or less, orderly manner, then they showed an American helicopter swoop over a large crowded refuge camp and just start tossing out boxes of MREs into the crowd of hungry people. Needless to say pandemonium ensued, way to start a riot guys.

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:05 pm
by Chao
isaiah40 wrote: God is around, it is that if you want Him to show His face in everything thing be thankful that HE isn't a God of telling you where you can work, how to act, ordering you to worship Him, who you can marry, what kind of car to drive, where to live, what to eat ... should I go on? God allows things to happen based on what's in our hearts/minds. Personally He wouldn't be a God, He would be a total dictator whereas you would not have the freedoms you have to do what you want to do.


So how does the earthquake fit into God's plan?

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:28 pm
by Phatscotty
Falkomagno wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
GiggleInDeath wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
GiggleInDeath wrote:
I realise I wasn't very clear, but I don't mean those suffering may think God doesn't exist. My post was directed at Falkomagno.


hmm..perhaps i wasnt clear either...I meant it wasnt a time or place for his comment.


sorry, maybe i read wrong.

But I agree, in the sense that this is not the right place to discuss such a things.

trying to troll god in the haiti thread. bold

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:52 pm
by angola
neanderpaul14 wrote:Wow now the Haitian Prime Minister is saying probably more than 100,000 dead. That's about 1% of their entire population. That is horrible.

Also I was watching the news about the relief effort. The U.N. have areas set up to distribute food in a, more or less, orderly manner, then they showed an American helicopter swoop over a large crowded refuge camp and just start tossing out boxes of MREs into the crowd of hungry people. Needless to say pandemonium ensued, way to start a riot guys.


The problem is, though, they are trying to set up aid stations, but it is nearly impossible to get the aid to said stations because all of the roads are blocked.

The helicopter way of just dropping stuff off is one of the few ways they've been able to get needed supplies to certain parts of the city, so it is better than nothing.

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:13 pm
by Titanic
jbrettlip wrote:
Titanic wrote:
jbrettlip wrote:Why is there no talk about how Brangelina have given more money to the relief than the CHINA?? USA, who everyone hates, sends troops supplies and $100 million. Europe does nothing as usual. Why don't you send your universal healthcare down there?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_t ... ake#Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_t ... pean_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_t ... anizations

Yer..."Europe does nothing as usual"...


Sorry I guess I should have said, Europe does very little compared to the US.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_Day ... tal_impact
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitari ... earthquake

You said what?

Also Haiti is right next to the USA, its obvious that they donate more and by my reckoning the European nations have donated around $70m with the EU itself still to commit money (and it has huge humanitarian aid reserves) and some prominant countries (like France) chose to send rescue and expert teams rather then commit money. Thats at least 70% of the US contribution, and how much do you think the USA would contribute if there was a horrific earthquake in the Balkans or North Africa? Unless it was an ally or strategic country, I doubt anything close to the European contribution.

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:19 pm
by Phatscotty
Titanic wrote:
jbrettlip wrote:
Titanic wrote:
jbrettlip wrote:Why is there no talk about how Brangelina have given more money to the relief than the CHINA?? USA, who everyone hates, sends troops supplies and $100 million. Europe does nothing as usual. Why don't you send your universal healthcare down there?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_t ... ake#Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_t ... pean_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_t ... anizations

Yer..."Europe does nothing as usual"...


Sorry I guess I should have said, Europe does very little compared to the US.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_Day ... tal_impact
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitari ... earthquake

You said what?

Also Haiti is right next to the USA, its obvious that they donate more and by my reckoning the European nations have donated around $70m with the EU itself still to commit money (and it has huge humanitarian aid reserves) and some prominant countries (like France) chose to send rescue and expert teams rather then commit money. Thats at least 70% of the US contribution, and how much do you think the USA would contribute if there was a horrific earthquake in the Balkans or North Africa? Unless it was an ally or strategic country, I doubt anything close to the European contribution.

yeah, they sent all the news guys. OJT, way to go.

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:24 pm
by Titanic
Phatscotty wrote:
Titanic wrote:
jbrettlip wrote:
Titanic wrote:
jbrettlip wrote:Why is there no talk about how Brangelina have given more money to the relief than the CHINA?? USA, who everyone hates, sends troops supplies and $100 million. Europe does nothing as usual. Why don't you send your universal healthcare down there?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_t ... ake#Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_t ... pean_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_t ... anizations

Yer..."Europe does nothing as usual"...


Sorry I guess I should have said, Europe does very little compared to the US.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_Day ... tal_impact
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitari ... earthquake

You said what?

Also Haiti is right next to the USA, its obvious that they donate more and by my reckoning the European nations have donated around $70m with the EU itself still to commit money (and it has huge humanitarian aid reserves) and some prominant countries (like France) chose to send rescue and expert teams rather then commit money. Thats at least 70% of the US contribution, and how much do you think the USA would contribute if there was a horrific earthquake in the Balkans or North Africa? Unless it was an ally or strategic country, I doubt anything close to the European contribution.

yeah, they sent all the news guys. OJT, way to go.


What?!?

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:31 pm
by lackattack
I put up a donation banner for the UN World Food Programme. I hope we, the Conquer Club community, can make a difference...

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:54 pm
by Shai
It's a good cause, great to see CC giving to the community! Keep it up!

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:03 pm
by Tripitaka
If you live in the UK and sign up to the MoneySavingExpert's weekly email before Sunday 24th January, they will donate 50p to the Disasters Emergency Committee. It's spam free and you can of course cancel your subscription after receiving your first issue, but to be honest I find it quite useful.

Anyway here's the link for those who may be interested: http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/site/haiti-appeal

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:51 pm
by JoshyBoy
Hmmm a very tragic world event. Right up there with the huge tidal wave tsunami incident which was felt across the world not that long ago. Haiti was a country very much pushed into the back corners of society and not many people payed attention to it.

Now look at it.

And yes, the U.S. always send more than most. They are like that. They are always poking their nose into everything. A couple of world wars, Iraq, and so on. Then of course they have to send when things like this happen, being the worlds "greatest" "super power" etc.

I would not wish the events of Haiti upon anyone and I hope that the situation stabilises and eases. Hopefully, our money will actually help.

Re: Earthquake Decimates Haiti Capital

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:01 am
by angola
The following artists have released new songs for free download if you donate money to their Haiti Relief Fund:

Linkin Park, Dave Matthews Band, Peter Gabriel, Alanis Morissette, Slash,
The All-American Rejects, Hoobastank, Kenna, Enrique Iglesias and Lupe Fiasco
team up with Music For Relief to aid earthquake victims.

Go to http://www.musicforrelief.org/ to get the music.

Pretty cool.