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Re: Math Question

Postby Metsfanmax on Sat May 15, 2010 11:37 pm

Doc_Brown wrote:I guess anyone that has taken a complex analysis class should know that one immediately. For those that didn't quite follow that, just realize that what's going on is exactly the same as in the following example:
cos( 0 ) = 1 = cos( 2*pi )
Take the arccosine of both sides and get
0 = 2*pi


Actually, for whatever reason, I haven't yet taken a complex analysis class. I happened to learn that bit about logarithms in quantum mechanics, actually, lol...
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Re: Math Question

Postby sherkaner on Sun May 16, 2010 10:08 am

Stupid mathematics, this is another standard one:
x = y (should always be valid)
x^2 = y^2 (we can raise the power of both sides)
x^2 - xy = y^2 - xy (and add some number to both sides)
x(x - y) = y(y-x) (rewriting)
x(x - y) = -y(x-y) (more rewriting)
x = -y (And removing the parts that are the same)

Seems like x = y = 0, but we started in a situation where any number could be put in, so 1 = -1 holds?
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Re: Math Question

Postby Dako on Sun May 16, 2010 10:28 am

Nice division by zero ;-).
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Re: Math Question

Postby Lord and Master on Sun May 16, 2010 12:29 pm

A silly one:

Girls take up time and money and the more time you're with them, the more money they cost you so...
Girls = Time x Money
But Mime = money so Time x Money = Money^2...
Girls = Money^2
But Money is the (square) root of all Evil so Money^2 = (sqrt Evil)^2 = Evil...
Girls = Evil
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Re: Math Question

Postby Doc_Brown on Sun May 16, 2010 4:40 pm

sherkaner wrote:Stupid mathematics, this is another standard one:
x = y (should always be valid)
x^2 = y^2 (we can raise the power of both sides)
x^2 - xy = y^2 - xy (and add some number to both sides)
x(x - y) = y(y-x) (rewriting)
x(x - y) = -y(x-y) (more rewriting)
x = -y (And removing the parts that are the same)

Seems like x = y = 0, but we started in a situation where any number could be put in, so 1 = -1 holds?


"Removing the parts that are the same" means dividing out the common factor in this case. Since x=y (by initial assumption), (x - y) = 0. When you divide by zero (as Dako noted) you can get all kinds of fun results!
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Re: Math Question

Postby maasman on Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:58 pm

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Re: Math Question

Postby Woodruff on Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:36 pm

How has Victor Sullivan not found this thread?
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Re: Math Question

Postby maasman on Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:49 pm

Woodruff wrote:How has Victor Sullivan not found this thread?


I have no idea.
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Re: Math Question

Postby WILLIAMS5232 on Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:50 pm

in real life i'm a surveyor of the earth, so i use math to an extent for work. i used to enjoy thinking about mathematics. as of late, I've found there's no real reason for me to do so and i'm so much happier now. technology will ruin math one day i'm certain.

but here's a usergroup that you can get all touchy feely about the subject with.

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Re: Math Question

Postby ender516 on Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:20 pm

maasman wrote:
Woodruff wrote:How has Victor Sullivan not found this thread?


I have no idea.

Should we tell him? :-k :-$
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Re: Math Question

Postby Gen.LeeGettinhed on Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:02 am

AgentSmith88 wrote:
Neoteny wrote:The real question is whether .999... = 1


I believe that already has its own thread and broke down into name calling and feces throwing.


gonna have to be more specific AoG. "broken down into name calling and feces throwing" sounds like a LOT of threads.
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Re: Math Question

Postby Victor Sullivan on Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:17 am

ender516 wrote:
maasman wrote:
Woodruff wrote:How has Victor Sullivan not found this thread?


I have no idea.

Should we tell him? :-k :-$

Sorry, was grabbing a cup of coffee when some jackass in front of me convinced the cashier to divide by zero on the register. That's seven years of my life I'm not getting back :roll: Stupid spontaneous black holes defying the laws of physics.

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Re: Math Question

Postby jonesthecurl on Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:43 pm

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Re: Math Question

Postby Pope Joan on Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:48 am

These are called Ackerman numbers, LOL :shock: :arrow:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ackermann_function
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Re: Math Question

Postby ender516 on Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:23 am

I remember a computing assignment (first year university? second?) where we were required to code the two-variable Ackermann function. A straight-forward recursive implementation would blow up past the system limits very quickly, so we had to find other means.
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Re: Math Question

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:39 pm

ender516 wrote:I remember a computing assignment (first year university? second?) where we were required to code the two-variable Ackermann function. A straight-forward recursive implementation would blow up past the system limits very quickly, so we had to find other means.


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Re: Math Question

Postby maasman on Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:02 pm

Because I still remember this topic, and I have found something that explains this better than the comic I posted 3 years ago:
http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/11/1000000-grahams-number.html
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Re: Math Question

Postby crispybits on Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:58 pm

See when we discussed Graham's number all that time ago (in another thread I think) I kinda got it, or so I thought...

Now seeing it laid out like that - wow! I wasn't even close to understanding just how utterly crazy that number is...
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Re: Math Question

Postby maasman on Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:41 pm

Yeah, after reading that article it made graham's number much more understandable.
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