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fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:14 pm
by PLAYER57832
OK, just thought we should have a spot to list whatever crazy (or even realistic) ideas we might have (or have read about) to help the Gulf.

Some of mine:
CURRENT
"Noah's Ark":
Have local and biologists quickly identify a few areas that can be completely cut off, i.e. cement levis -- no berm junk. Some shall simply be left. Others shall be "managed" similar to "aquaculture" systems (oxeygenated, temperature regulated, etc.) This won't save much, but might save a few more remnants that can then be used later to repopulate the Gulf.

Take coral samples to some of the best aquariums in the country. Give them immediate funding and materials to expand as much as possible as quickly as possible to, again, to preserve a few species that might not otherwise survive.

Stop the disbursant (already done?)
Mobilize more people, materials. This is a WAR, it needs to have the same priority as if we were physically attacked by another nation. The damage is actually worse than if we were simply bombed -- far, far worse. The response needs to match that.

FUTURE:
1. Set up an international system of response for marine issues like this. Regionally, there should be enough materials and personnel to manage/contain such an incident. This should be in place BEFORE any more activity is allowed, and should be funded by a world tax on all ocean operations with potential for causing damage. The amount should be utterly consistant with the potential damage. Funds should be kept in escrow in advance, with only a certain percentage subject to insurance and "future" payments. Any business not able to pay for these is not solvent enough to operate.

2. Revise the authorization procedure for not just offshore, but onshore activities. Far more attention needs to be paid to real and true impacts to natural systems. Pollute the water? Then you must be able to not just say "oops, I am sorry" and pay for a few bottles of water when people's water supplies are contaminated, you should have to actually clean up the mess. If you cannot -- work on it!

3. All hazardous operations need to provide all potentially impacted communities with real and true supplies and training needed to fight the potential damage. This should be funded by the company, not the individual companies unfortunate enough to be the neighbor.

4. Mandated monitoring of people, water, etc long after operations begin.

5. Require that companies conduct enough tests to essentially prove safety before they release things, rather than this "oops, we goofed" approach, where everything is considered essentially safe until proven otherwise (a few minor tests required of some things, but its very spotty and very basic). Testing absolutely must include testing of combinations of chemicals and other real-life "conditions", such as sun, heat, exposure to water, etc.

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:23 pm
by Pedronicus
6. Invade Iraq (you are allowed to switch Iraq for Iran if you like)

7. Invade Afghanistan (you are allowed to switch Afghanistan for Pakistan if you like)

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:26 pm
by Phatscotty
8. socialism (realistic)

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:45 pm
by natty dread
9. nuclear bomb

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:25 pm
by Timminz
10. plagiarism

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:51 pm
by Juan_Bottom
Player, I know your threads often fail faster than Chris Gain's last album did. But this was your best fail to date. I know, I have many under my belt. Good effort buddy.

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:48 pm
by jonesthecurl
It seems to me that, given the effort it is to get at oil when it's underground or undersea, and the effort it then is to refine it until its usable, we should reseach ways to harvest and refine it when it's sat right in front of us on top of the water. And yes we need to take as many of the endangered species as possible and raise some small 'uns until its safe to return 'em. in fact, we should be proactie in this and have specimens being raised in captivity from any area where eco-disasters are playusibly going to happen.

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:24 pm
by AAFitz
big angioplasty...stick the balloon in the hole...a strong one...and blow it up. fill with concrete and be done.

Pretty easy if it werent so deep...or if they had one.

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:34 pm
by rockfist
Use Barney Frank to plug the hole.

All joking aside what happened when the Ixtock (sp) well leak happened? What happened to the coastlines? Will this be different? How and if so why?

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:55 pm
by army of nobunaga
It is going to take a big... big ... bomba grande...

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:59 pm
by 2dimes
AAFitz wrote:big angioplasty...stick the balloon in the hole...a strong one...and blow it up. fill with concrete and be done.

Pretty easy if it werent so deep...or if they had one.

I think this is pretty strong here. Isn't there a open e-mail site where you can send your good ideas? That should be sent if there is.

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:22 pm
by army of nobunaga
At over a mile down do you know how hard it is to pump gas (air or likely a hydrogen mixture) into a balloon to inflate it? Im not sure if there is a pump that strong.

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:23 pm
by rockfist
We could have Joe Biden blow hot air into the pump system...that ought to do the trick.

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:52 pm
by 2dimes
army of nobunaga wrote:At over a mile down do you know how hard it is to pump gas (air or likely a hydrogen mixture) into a balloon to inflate it? Im not sure if there is a pump that strong.

Why would you use air or hydrogen? We want the thing to plug the hole not float on a string. How about water or like he said concreate?

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:04 pm
by AAFitz
2dimes wrote:
AAFitz wrote:big angioplasty...stick the balloon in the hole...a strong one...and blow it up. fill with concrete and be done.

Pretty easy if it werent so deep...or if they had one.

I think this is pretty strong here. Isn't there a open e-mail site where you can send your good ideas? That should be sent if there is.


My only other idea was a foam explosion of some kind. Foam is pretty easy to make by mixing two components, but an explosion under those pressures and with the pressure of the oil spewing out is probably not easy to regulate.

The benefit of it would be that the chemical reaction itself would do all the work, but delivering that much of it would be tough.

The problem with the angioplasti idea, is that the pressure would have to be preset and set to explode once down there, and hopefully be enough. Pressurizing it from the surface would probably be pretty tough and would require a pressure proof tube.

Seems a little better than stuffing it with trash in any case.

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:10 pm
by army of nobunaga
2dimes wrote:
army of nobunaga wrote:At over a mile down do you know how hard it is to pump gas (air or likely a hydrogen mixture) into a balloon to inflate it? Im not sure if there is a pump that strong.

Why would you use air or hydrogen? We want the thing to plug the hole not float on a string. How about water or like he said concreate?



I dont think you use any of this.. I think you blow the holy f*ck out of it and let 300-1000 meters of sediment plug it.

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:14 pm
by 2dimes
army of nobunaga wrote:
2dimes wrote:
army of nobunaga wrote:At over a mile down do you know how hard it is to pump gas (air or likely a hydrogen mixture) into a balloon to inflate it? Im not sure if there is a pump that strong.

Why would you use air or hydrogen? We want the thing to plug the hole not float on a string. How about water or like he said concreate?



I dont think you use any of this.. I think you blow the holy f*ck out of it and let 300-1000 meters of sediment plug it.

Then turn off your computer and get to work!

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:29 pm
by CreepersWiener
11. Magnets

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:14 pm
by CreepersWiener
12. Beer Bottles

Re: fix the Spill ideas

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:55 pm
by Phatscotty
Plug the hole Daddy!