You know what really grinds my gears...

[Army of GOD]

-I FUCKING ORDER 3 COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS TO BE SENT OUT IN LATE MARCH, I FIND OUT TODAY THAT NONE OF THEM GOT SENT OUT AND THE BITCH IN CHARGE CANNOT EVEN FIND THE FILES. AIJRAWERIAWJERAOWIERJAEWORIJAWEROIAWEJRAWERwer

[BigBallinStalin]

-I FUCKING ORDER 3 COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS TO BE SENT OUT IN LATE MARCH, I FIND OUT TODAY THAT NONE OF THEM GOT SENT OUT AND THE BITCH IN CHARGE CANNOT EVEN FIND THE FILES. AIJRAWERIAWJERAOWIERJAEWORIJAWEROIAWEJRAWERwer

Is your school owned and operated by the government? <wiggles eyebrows>

[saxitoxin]

What grind my gears? People who have very firm, set opinions, but who cannot be bothered to check if their opinions are based on real facts.. who, in fact, reject any facts that disagree with their opinions as "biased data".

I hate that, too.

That's what many historians have said, yes.. but it's debateable.

Would love to hear who these historians are as I'd like to read their books.

Sorry, they are my old professors and I cannot be bothered to dig up their names.

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[Army of GOD]

-the fact that soccer teams think it's cool to sell out by having company logos on their uniforms.

"Our hated rivals are the Fly Emirates! DAMN YOU FLY EMIRATES!"

[natty dread]

-the fact that soccer teams think it's cool to sell out by having company logos on their uniforms.

Luckily hockey teams never, ever do that

[Army of GOD]

-the fact that soccer teams think it's cool to sell out by having company logos on their uniforms.

Luckily hockey teams never, ever do that

They have logos of the companies that made the piece of uniform, obviously, but the team's logo is by far the biggest thing on ANY main American sport (MLS doesn't count. Well, in football, teams don't have their logo on their uniforms, but they still don't have a third party company polluting them).

[natty dread]

-the fact that soccer teams think it's cool to sell out by having company logos on their uniforms.

Luckily hockey teams never, ever do that

They have logos of the companies that made the piece of uniform, obviously, but the team's logo is by far the biggest thing on ANY main American sport (MLS doesn't count. Well, in football, teams don't have their logo on their uniforms, but they still don't have a third party company polluting them).

Yeah, because sports is like a religion in america, amirite?

[Army of GOD]

-the fact that soccer teams think it's cool to sell out by having company logos on their uniforms.

Luckily hockey teams never, ever do that

They have logos of the companies that made the piece of uniform, obviously, but the team's logo is by far the biggest thing on ANY main American sport (MLS doesn't count. Well, in football, teams don't have their logo on their uniforms, but they still don't have a third party company polluting them).

Yeah, because sports is like a religion in america, amirite?

Arguing about third party logos on uniforms ---> religion

WAT

[natty dread]

-the fact that soccer teams think it's cool to sell out by having company logos on their uniforms.

Luckily hockey teams never, ever do that

They have logos of the companies that made the piece of uniform, obviously, but the team's logo is by far the biggest thing on ANY main American sport (MLS doesn't count. Well, in football, teams don't have their logo on their uniforms, but they still don't have a third party company polluting them).

Yeah, because sports is like a religion in america, amirite?

Arguing about third party logos on uniforms ---> religion

WAT

Well maybe it's because I live in europe but I've always thought business logos on sports uniforms were business as usual.

Sports teams need money, they get business sponsors and get money, businesses get visibility for their logos... everybody wins

But america, the promised land of capitalism, is for some reason hesitant to put advertising somewhere? WTF? It's got to be a religious thing. No doubt

[Army of GOD]

Haha, so because the US has a quasi-capitalist economy, we automatically have to sell uniform space for advertisement?

Maybe it's because sports teams already...wait for it...make enough money and don't need to whore themselves out?

Also, I thought Europe was communist. Why do they suck the corporations cock then?

[natty dread]

Why are you so defensive? I was just making an observation. Defending your religion, I suppose?

And that's just it, sports teams make enough money because sports is such a huge religion in america, they don't even need sponsors... what are they, poor people?

[Army of GOD]

Why are you so defensive?

Because defense wins games.

[natty dread]

Why are you so defensive?

Because defense wins games.

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[Army of GOD]

Ugh, fine.
















Tebow wins games.

[mviola]

Terrible officiating wins games.




As in f*ck Greg Jennings, his TD catch, and the Packers.




I know the NFL wants the packers to go undefeated, but please, try to stay impartial next time. You weren't doing a very good job at that.

[john9blue]

see how fucking pointless it is, aog?

it's like arguing with a chimpanzee. or a brick wall.

never conceding points, never admitting he was wrong. abruptly changing the topic when he knows he said something idiotic and people call him out on it. and the topic change has to offend or demean the other person in some way.

[Army of GOD]

see how fucking pointless it is, aog?

it's like arguing with a chimpanzee. or a brick wall.

never conceding points, never admitting he was wrong. abruptly changing the topic when he knows he said something idiotic and people call him out on it. and the topic change has to offend or demean the other person in some way.

I feel like if I went with him into the sports = religion tangent, he'd eventually find his way bashing the Catholic church. Though it'd be amusing to watch, I'm too afraid he's a troll so I can't roll with it.

[natty dread]

see how fucking pointless it is, aog?

it's like arguing with a chimpanzee. or a brick wall.

never conceding points, never admitting he was wrong. abruptly changing the topic when he knows he said something idiotic and people call him out on it. and the topic change has to offend or demean the other person in some way.

Are you a member of the film club, John?

Because I get the feeling you're...

...projecting.

[john9blue]

at least provide the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YMPAH67f4o ...

[BigBallinStalin]

ITT, natty_dread defends capitalism and freedom of choice against AoG's rage against people's decisions to sell advertisement space on a sports uniform.

natty_dread's simply commenting on AoG's "religious attitude" regarding the "sanctity of sports teams" (and especially their holy garments, a.k.a. uniforms). From my interpretation, natty_dread is implying that such a stance is irrational, and I'm inclined to agree with him.


If it's not a "religious" reaction against capitalism, then what is it? In other words, why is it wrong for owners of soccer teams to sell advertising space on the team's uniforms?

It's their teams, they reserve the right, and they need the money to maintain the profitability of the soccer team (which ain't cheap, dawg).

[john9blue]

ITT, natty_dread defends capitalism and freedom of choice against AoG's rage against people's decisions to sell advertisement space on a sports uniform.

natty_dread's simply commenting on AoG's "religious attitude" regarding the "sanctity of sports teams" (and especially their holy garments, a.k.a. uniforms). From my interpretation, natty_dread is implying that such a stance is irrational, and I'm inclined to agree with him.


If it's not a "religious" reaction against capitalism, then what is it? In other words, why is it wrong for owners of soccer teams to sell advertising space on the team's uniforms?

- natty defending capitalism. you should be able to see what's unusual about that.
- if sports is a "religion" in america, then atheism is a "religion" everywhere.
- it IS rather strange to see the name of a company on a uniform, which is usually used to identify the player for the viewers.
- aog is dumb too but we all already knew that.

[BigBallinStalin]

The john9blue-natty_dread feud has been grinding my gears lately. These mildly intense border conflicts would do better in a proper arena.


I challenge them to my thread, where they will duel with one another by only using pictures.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=159105

[natty dread]

- natty defending capitalism. you should be able to see what's unusual about that.

Argue with the point, not with the person, John.

But then again, I've noticed that's a thing you do. You can't separate arguments from the persons making them. You have some weird issues against me, so you'll disagree with me even if I argue that fish live in water.

- if sports is a "religion" in america, then atheism is a "religion" everywhere.

Does not follow. Logical leap. Also irrelevant to the subject at hand.

- it IS rather strange to see the name of a company on a uniform, which is usually used to identify the player for the viewers.

Appeal to ridicule. You only see it as strange because it's something you're not culturally familiar with.

- aog is dumb too but we all already knew that.

Lay off AoG. He can't help being special.

[Army of GOD]

It's their teams, they reserve the right, and they need the money to maintain the profitability of the soccer team (which ain't cheap, dawg).

I agree. That's why I'm not passing legislation disallowing them to do it.

The reason why I dislike it is because it's not aesthetically nor intellectually pleasing. The logos do a poor job at blending in with the uniforms and I very much dislike how a third party corporation insists on advertising in such a way.

I don't see why you think my disdain for such a thing is irrational. It's not like I say it's irrational for you to not like a certain painting or a musical artist.

What is irrational, however, is comparing religion to sports in the United States. Essentially, if you're saying that that comparison is ok, then if I was to object Microsoft from putting its logo on Stonehenge, apparently I am now a follower of the religion "ancient monuments". My, or most Americans, love of sports has no resemblances of popular religions. You can interpret whatever you want from American sports to symbolize a concept from religion, but honestly I would rather you just not jerk off.

[Army of GOD]

- natty defending capitalism. you should be able to see what's unusual about that.

Argue with the point, not with the person, John.

But then again, I've noticed that's a thing you do. You can't separate arguments from the persons making them. You have some weird issues against me, so you'll disagree with me even if I argue that fish live in water.

- if sports is a "religion" in america, then atheism is a "religion" everywhere.

Does not follow. Logical leap. Also irrelevant to the subject at hand.

- it IS rather strange to see the name of a company on a uniform, which is usually used to identify the player for the viewers.

Appeal to ridicule. You only see it as strange because it's something you're not culturally familiar with.

- aog is dumb too but we all already knew that.

Lay off AoG. He can't help being special.

Is there a logical fallacy that has to do with someone dismissing an argument because they believe there's a logical fallacy within the argument?

If not, we should definitely make one up. "argumentum ad fallacium"

f*ck latin, get bitches