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Pre-Banning Thread
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Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:24 pmby Phatscotty
Whenever someone feels the need to report someone, you can air your grievances here, and maybe we can get the offender to apologize or at least edit their post. Or maybe we can identify the accuser as jumping the gun. At least it's worth a try.
The analogy here is, when people get into a fist fight, the police do not need to be called everytime. If everyone is ok and it was just a little fight and nobody was hurt, getting the police involved just leads to court dates and probation as well as place higher costs on "the system". sometimes, after the fight, people can come to the consensus the the person who got punched deserved it. Maybe not. I know after I got into one fight in high school, and we got away with it, the next day the guy who lost (obviously) came up to me and said "that was so stupid" and I was like "I know" and we actually became friends.
Let's give a shot at governing ourselves and remaining free to post!
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:55 pmby theherkman
INB4 LOCK
Oh noez, Ima get a whipping!
With that out of the way, I have recently found that certain members of the administration are not nazis. In my opinion, rds and the redhead are the worst offenders. However, I don't believe the majority of mods will give a flying shit about this thread or its purpose.
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:01 pmby aage
That doesn't mean we're not allowed to use it though. This thread doesn't violate a single CC rule i guess. Is there rules on amateur modding?
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:03 pmby Phatscotty
aage wrote:That doesn't mean we're not allowed to use it though. This thread doesn't violate a single CC rule i guess. Is there rules on amateur modding?
Just encouraging the community to talk through or face their problems, 100% in the spirit of community harmony.
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:10 pmby TheSaxlad
I like the idea of this thread I really do. We just need to make sure that it doesn't turn into a flame fest, although I feel we can be more liberal about it with this.
I really like this idea!
TSL
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:11 pmby Phatscotty
TheSaxlad wrote:I like the idea of this thread I really do. We just need to make sure that it doesn't turn into a flame fest, although I feel we can be more liberal about it with this.
I really like this idea!
TSL
yeah well just punish the flamer and not the good-deed doer, and I promise to do even more good deeds!
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:23 pmby saxitoxin
GD ITEXCUUSSSSSSSSEE MEI WOULD LIKE TO NOTE WE ALREADY HAVE AN ALTERNATE DISPUTE ADJUDICATION PROCESS. 
DO WE NEED AN
ALTERNATE ALTERNATE DISPUTE ADJUDICATION PROCESS?
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=111267&hilit=alternate+dispute
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:08 pmby TheSaxlad
Saxi, im not going to merge it for the reason that your thread provides a warning and a conclusion, if I'm reading it right this thread is for discussing problems with the view a decision might not be reached although I hope this is not the case.
However your disputes thread is still a valuable tool, if only we could get more people to use it...
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:13 pmby Phatscotty
TheSaxlad wrote:Saxi, im not going to merge it for the reason that your thread provides a warning and a conclusion, if I'm reading it right this thread is for discussing problems with the view a decision might not be reached although I hope this is not the case.
However your disputes thread is still a valuable tool, if only we could get more people to use it...
I think we have our first dispute!
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:30 pmby Ace Rimmer
Everyone should read the Community Guidelines and the Live Chat Guidelines. If you do that and follow those, it will definitely help as there will be less banning.
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:46 pmby thegreekdog
While I wouldn't merge this with BBS's excellent "suggestions" thread (that should not be moved incidentally), I would encourage those who post here to make that suggestion in BBS's thread. And that was a horrible sentence.
Here, I'll make it more understandable - PhatScotty - add this to the BBS thread. Thanks.
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:09 pmby Victor Sullivan
jakewilliams wrote:Everyone should read the Community Guidelines and the Live Chat Guidelines. If you do that and follow those, it will definitely help as there will be less banning.
Gee, thanks jake! I'll go do that right now!...
Sorry for the sarcasm, but seriously, doesn't everyone here know the rules by now...?
-Sully
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:14 pmby Fircoal
I agree with you. This idea is a good one.
theherkman wrote:With that out of the way, I have recently found that certain members of the administration are not nazis. In my opinion, rds and the redhead are the worst offenders. However, I don't believe the majority of mods will give a flying shit about this thread or its purpose.
Oh course not all of them are. I personally don't think rds nor Red are the worst. Also I don't until you've seen the likes of AK Iceman, Twill, and Wicked, you don't know the worst of bad modding.
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:58 pmby Juan_Bottom
Ok here we go,
Accused: Saxitoxin
Accuser: Juan_Bottom
Adjudicator: TheSaxlad
Accusation: *Trying to suppress TheSaxlad's authority as a Moderator of Doom, and subsequently suppressing love (this thread is love).
Will there be Hugs?
*Doom and Love are not wholly incompatible
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:34 pmby TheSaxlad
Moderator of DOOM?
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:35 pmby BigBallinStalin
In this thread or in similar threads of a similar style, the preferred adjudicator would actually be anyone who wants to, but it would be done as a group. That group can be anybody willing to discuss the issue in a reasonable manner (jokes are of course acceptable).
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:38 pmby TheSaxlad
BigBallinStalin wrote:In this thread or in similar threads of a similar style, the preferred adjudicator would actually be anyone who wants to, but it would be done as a group. That group can be anybody willing to discuss the issue in a reasonable manner (jokes are of course acceptable).
Agreed.
But I turn this down on the basis that I can still be a Moderator of Doom and have love.
Just look at Darth Vader...
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:43 pmby saxitoxin
Juan_Bottom wrote:Ok here we go,
Accused: Saxitoxin
Accuser: Juan_Bottom
Adjudicator: TheSaxlad
Accusation: *Trying to suppress TheSaxlad's authority as a Moderator of Doom, and subsequently suppressing love (this thread is love).
Will there be Hugs?
*Doom and Love are not wholly incompatible
I WILL WITHDRAW MY COMPLAINT AGAINST SAXLAD IN THE ALTERNATE DISPUTE RESOLUTION FORUM IF JUAN WITHDRAWS HIS COMPLAINT AGAINST ME IN THE PRE-BANNING THREAD.
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:45 pmby BigBallinStalin
TheSaxlad wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:In this thread or in similar threads of a similar style, the preferred adjudicator would actually be anyone who wants to, but it would be done as a group. That group can be anybody willing to discuss the issue in a reasonable manner (jokes are of course acceptable).
Agreed.
But I turn this down on the basis that I can still be a Moderator of Doom and have love.
Just look at Darth Vader...
/me summons the souls of the Perma-Damned and unleashes their howling spirits of Rage and Fury onto TheSaxlad.
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:46 pmby squishyg
Phatscotty wrote:Whenever someone feels the need to report someone, you can air your grievances here, and maybe we can get the offender to apologize or at least edit their post. Or maybe we can identify the accuser as jumping the gun. At least it's worth a try.
The analogy here is, when people get into a fist fight, the police do not need to be called everytime. If everyone is ok and it was just a little fight and nobody was hurt, getting the police involved just leads to court dates and probation as well as place higher costs on "the system". sometimes, after the fight, people can come to the consensus the the person who got punched deserved it. Maybe not. I know after I got into one fight in high school, and we got away with it, the next day the guy who lost (obviously) came up to me and said "that was so stupid" and I was like "I know" and we actually became friends.
Let's give a shot at governing ourselves and remaining free to post!
I feel a little unsettled by saying this, but I agree with Phatscotty. Excellent idea sir! Remember, the reporting system should be used, not abused.
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
Posted:
Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:47 pmby Juan_Bottom
saxitoxin wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote:Ok here we go,
Accused: Saxitoxin
Accuser: Juan_Bottom
Adjudicator: TheSaxlad
Accusation: *Trying to suppress TheSaxlad's authority as a Moderator of Doom, and subsequently suppressing love (this thread is love).
Will there be Hugs?
*Doom and Love are not wholly incompatible
I WILL WITHDRAW MY COMPLAINT AGAINST SAXLAD IN THE ALTERNATE DISPUTE RESOLUTION FORUM IF JUAN WITHDRAWS HIS COMPLAINT AGAINST ME IN THE PRE-BANNING THREAD.
Happily done! And no Hugs are required.
BUT I GIVE THEM ANYWAY!
/me hugs Saxi!
Re: Pre-Banning Thread
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Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:47 pmby Phatscotty
saxitoxin wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote:Ok here we go,
Accused: Saxitoxin
Accuser: Juan_Bottom
Adjudicator: TheSaxlad
Accusation: *Trying to suppress TheSaxlad's authority as a Moderator of Doom, and subsequently suppressing love (this thread is love).
Will there be Hugs?
*Doom and Love are not wholly incompatible
I WILL WITHDRAW MY COMPLAINT AGAINST SAXLAD IN THE ALTERNATE DISPUTE RESOLUTION FORUM IF JUAN WITHDRAWS HIS COMPLAINT AGAINST ME IN THE PRE-BANNING THREAD.
Such a diplomatic magician...