Conquer Club

Spending Cuts
Lower/Less Taxes
Balanced Budgets
Fiscal Responsibility
Less Borrowing
Less Regulation

Maybe we aren't going to have the riots after all?

What happened to, "they're all just politicians"?

Yeah don't hold your breath.

-TG

--Andy

lmao you're as funny as the idiots who thought (think?) that Obama is the savior of the USA.

Same old shit, different party.

jakewilliams wrote:lmao you're as funny as the idiots who thought (think?) that Obama is the savior of the USA.

Same old shit, different party.

SSDD

I heard their first plan to reduce spending was to increase spending and the debt....I'm confused.

I wouldnt trust a politian of any party but as far as I could throw them.They are pretty much all the same.We shall see i they
can do ( or least try to do) what they promise though like I said its unlikely

I think that they going to raise the debt limit and make some cuts .

Nah guys. It's more like, this is the peaceful, graceful way to do it. It's called the process. We did not invent it, but it's the best tool we have (taking away power).

There has been a major shift in America, and we have more honorable politicians today than we had yesterday. We are heading in the right direction, and it's a start, but it is also beyond The Spark stage.

Bottom line, people are watching, people are calling, people are getting animated in holding their elected officials accountable. Go ahead, give the Tea Party a reason to campaign against you. The Tea Party also has a caucus, and we get a look at their impact directly. when they do something. Maybe 30% of them will go corrupt, or 5% of them were plants, whatever it may be, the %'s are lower today than they were yesterday as well.

Check the social issues at the door, or take them up with someone else because I am simply motivated by economic issues. Whatever party that puts me in so you guys can label me, I don't give a crap. I've been called a Liberal FAR MORE times than I've been called a Righty, and that is a fact Jack!

Fuzzylogic99 wrote:I wouldnt trust a politian of any party but as far as I could throw them.They are pretty much all the same.We shall see i they
can do ( or least try to do) what they promise though like I said its unlikely

I think that they going to raise the debt limit and make some cuts .

Ok, and I hear you about trusting politicians 110%.

BUT....

does that also mean, that it is impossible to elect a good leader? since, anyone you elect, is a politician.

I guess we will have to watch their actions, and judge them accordingly.

AndyDufresne wrote:


--Andy

Been there, and we have just finished with that...

good riddance Hippies!

You spelled 'hipster' wrong.

I think I will temper my excitement until I see what happens.

Phatscotty wrote:Nah guys. It's more like, this is the peaceful, graceful way to do it. It's called the process. We did not invent it, but it's the best tool we have (taking away power).

There has been a major shift in America, and we have more honorable politicians today than we had yesterday. We are heading in the right direction, and it's a start, but it is also beyond The Spark stage.

Bottom line, people are watching, people are calling, people are getting animated in holding their elected officials accountable. Go ahead, give the Tea Party a reason to campaign against you. The Tea Party also has a caucus, and we get a look at their impact directly. when they do something. Maybe 30% of them will go corrupt, or 5% of them were plants, whatever it may be, the %'s are lower today than they were yesterday as well.

Check the social issues at the door, or take them up with someone else because I am simply motivated by economic issues. Whatever party that puts me in so you guys can label me, I don't give a crap. I've been called a Liberal FAR MORE times than I've been called a Righty, and that is a fact Jack!

Its very easy to call them honorable when they can basically vote for anything they want and not be accountable. They can propose any crazy shit they want, and then act outraged when the senate or Obama kill it. Or when they've been in office for like what 2 days? let's wait and see before we start signing their praises about how honorable and countable they are, when they haven't done anything yet.

Libtards are going to flame me for this, but it is the truth none the less.

You see, the Republicans got elected to do the following things-
1. Get the nation's fiscal house in order.
2. Stop the expansion of Government
3. Start shrinking Government.

They don't have a hope in hell of doing any of those things.
Though they have the House they can't get anything through the Senate and they sure as hell can't override Mr Obama's veto.
But that is ok.

You see, the Republicans when they got trounced in 2006 and 2008 understood that their reason for their loss was due to their own failure. On the other hand, in 2010 the Democrats get trounced and they cannot admit their own failure. They think they lost because they were cheated. They don't see it as a rejection of their policies.

This is what is going to seal the Progressives fate.

The Republicans are going to (if they are wise) keep trying to do what they were elected to do. The Democrats will squash those attempts and the American people will see it all. The Libtards can try to spin it how they want but won't understand what most of America wants and will suffer again in 2012. I am willing to bet even then the Progressives won't accept that they are being rejected but will seek only to blame others instead of taking a hard look at their own policies and how those policies are opposed by the majority of regular Americans.

Baron Von PWN wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:Nah guys. It's more like, this is the peaceful, graceful way to do it. It's called the process. We did not invent it, but it's the best tool we have (taking away power).

There has been a major shift in America, and we have more honorable politicians today than we had yesterday. We are heading in the right direction, and it's a start, but it is also beyond The Spark stage.

Bottom line, people are watching, people are calling, people are getting animated in holding their elected officials accountable. Go ahead, give the Tea Party a reason to campaign against you. The Tea Party also has a caucus, and we get a look at their impact directly. when they do something. Maybe 30% of them will go corrupt, or 5% of them were plants, whatever it may be, the %'s are lower today than they were yesterday as well.

Check the social issues at the door, or take them up with someone else because I am simply motivated by economic issues. Whatever party that puts me in so you guys can label me, I don't give a crap. I've been called a Liberal FAR MORE times than I've been called a Righty, and that is a fact Jack!

Its very easy to call them honorable when they can basically vote for anything they want and not be accountable. They can propose any crazy shit they want, and then act outraged when the senate or Obama kill it. Or when they've been in office for like what 2 days? let's wait and see before we start signing their praises about how honorable and countable they are, when they haven't done anything yet.

All theoreticals right now. We have to wait and see. I'm already pissed at Sessions he made a big mistake already. I''m looking at the way the democrat who got endorsed by the republican party from the special house election in NY handled it.

I don't have too high of hoped for a repeal in the Senate, but I bet you it will be close, as there are some democratic senators up for re-election next time too...

I can so call a few of the freshman honorable, as they have proven to me in the campaign they were men of honor. not holding back, saying unpopular but true things, actually digging into the issues. They did not play "the game" to get elected. If you want to point out that is all I have to judge them by, that is ok. It's all I have to judge them by. The debt ceiling vote will reveal some true colors. That's what I'm waiting for

patches70 wrote:Libtards are going to flame me for this, but it is the truth none the less.

You see, the Republicans got elected to do the following things-
1. Get the nation's fiscal house in order.
2. Stop the expansion of Government
3. Start shrinking Government.

They don't have a hope in hell of doing any of those things.
Though they have the House they can't get anything through the Senate and they sure as hell can't override Mr Obama's veto.
But that is ok.

You see, the Republicans when they got trounced in 2006 and 2008 understood that their reason for their loss was due to their own failure. On the other hand, in 2010 the Democrats get trounced and they cannot admit their own failure. They think they lost because they were cheated. They don't see it as a rejection of their policies.

This is what is going to seal the Progressives fate.

The Republicans are going to (if they are wise) keep trying to do what they were elected to do. The Democrats will squash those attempts and the American people will see it all. The Libtards can try to spin it how they want but won't understand what most of America wants and will suffer again in 2012. I am willing to bet even then the Progressives won't accept that they are being rejected but will seek only to blame others instead of taking a hard look at their own policies and how those policies are opposed by the majority of regular Americans.

Michelle Bachmann is releasing a plan to the public on excatly how 450 billion is going to be cut, across the board.
.

Phatscotty, no offense, but what you're saying in this thread... well, it sounds rather "changey-hopey".

It's odd, one group in the political spectrum displayed signs of great expectations and joyfulness about 2 years ago, and were mocked for it by an other group in the political spectrum, especially when reality didn't live up to the expectations. Now the second group is displaying the same behavioural signs.

patches70 wrote:Libtards

When you start your your fss with an insult, it implies that reading any more will only reinforce the fss. Which it did.

"The tea party" is just more beast for the machine. A machine that will swallow them whole. One little tine deal at a time, so subtly.

It is the design of the machine.

MeDeFe wrote:It's odd, one group in the political spectrum displayed signs of great expectations and joyfulness about 2 years ago, and were mocked for it by an other group in the political spectrum, especially when reality didn't live up to the expectations.

And history has shown them to be the dipshits that they were/are.

MeDeFe wrote:Now the second group is displaying the same behavioural signs.

You wish.

MeDeFe wrote:Phatscotty, no offense, but what you're saying in this thread... well, it sounds rather "changey-hopey".

It's odd, one group in the political spectrum displayed signs of great expectations and joyfulness about 2 years ago, and were mocked for it by an other group in the political spectrum, especially when reality didn't live up to the expectations. Now the second group is displaying the same behavioural signs.

They weren't mocked because they had great expectations, but because of the expectations themselves. And as far as I can tell, the party in power the last two years got a whole lot of what they wanted, if not the results.

Phatscotty wrote:I've been called a Liberal FAR MORE times than I've been called a Righty, and that is a fact Jack!

I keep seeing you say this. But I gotta say...I cannot possibly fathom why anyone would make that mistake.

patches70 wrote:Libtards are going to flame me for this, but it is the truth none the less.

You see, the Republicans got elected to do the following things-
1. Get the nation's fiscal house in order.
2. Stop the expansion of Government
3. Start shrinking Government.

They don't have a hope in hell of doing any of those things.
Though they have the House they can't get anything through the Senate and they sure as hell can't override Mr Obama's veto.

It's funny that you'd have the balls to say something like this, given what the new Speaker and his minions have been doing for the last several months.

Phatscotty wrote:I can so call a few of the freshman honorable, as they have proven to me in the campaign they were men of honor. not holding back, saying unpopular but true things, actually digging into the issues. They did not play "the game" to get elected. If you want to point out that is all I have to judge them by, that is ok. It's all I have to judge them by. The debt ceiling vote will reveal some true colors. That's what I'm waiting for

Were these the freshmen who were illegally casting votes, or some other freshmen?

Woodruff wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:I can so call a few of the freshman honorable, as they have proven to me in the campaign they were men of honor. not holding back, saying unpopular but true things, actually digging into the issues. They did not play "the game" to get elected. If you want to point out that is all I have to judge them by, that is ok. It's all I have to judge them by. The debt ceiling vote will reveal some true colors. That's what I'm waiting for

Were these the freshmen who were illegally casting votes, or some other freshmen?

And yet they actually fixed their mistakes: the body nullified their previous votes and they took the oath properly. Seems much like Roberts and Obama messing up the Presidential Oath and redoing it the next day: feigned outrage of something that was quickly fixed.

Night Strike wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:I can so call a few of the freshman honorable, as they have proven to me in the campaign they were men of honor. not holding back, saying unpopular but true things, actually digging into the issues. They did not play "the game" to get elected. If you want to point out that is all I have to judge them by, that is ok. It's all I have to judge them by. The debt ceiling vote will reveal some true colors. That's what I'm waiting for

Were these the freshmen who were illegally casting votes, or some other freshmen?

And yet they actually fixed their mistakes: the body nullified their previous votes and they took the oath properly. Seems much like Roberts and Obama messing up the Presidential Oath and redoing it the next day: feigned outrage of something that was quickly fixed.

Feigned outrage, my ass. Don't be all "FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION" and "WE'RE GONNA READ IT WHEN WE OPEN UP!" if you can't even be bothered to comprehend that which you are reading. It's evidence that those individuals making those sorts of statements didn't have any real intention behind the words.

Woodruff wrote:

Night Strike wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:I can so call a few of the freshman honorable, as they have proven to me in the campaign they were men of honor. not holding back, saying unpopular but true things, actually digging into the issues. They did not play "the game" to get elected. If you want to point out that is all I have to judge them by, that is ok. It's all I have to judge them by. The debt ceiling vote will reveal some true colors. That's what I'm waiting for

Were these the freshmen who were illegally casting votes, or some other freshmen?

And yet they actually fixed their mistakes: the body nullified their previous votes and they took the oath properly. Seems much like Roberts and Obama messing up the Presidential Oath and redoing it the next day: feigned outrage of something that was quickly fixed.

Feigned outrage, my ass. Don't be all "FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION" and "WE'RE GONNA READ IT WHEN WE OPEN UP!" if you can't even be bothered to comprehend that which you are reading. It's evidence that those individuals making those sorts of statements didn't have any real intention behind the words.

Those two realized the oath was being done and took the oath at the same time as the general body as they witnessed it on television. The Parliamentarian ruled that their actions were not sufficient as it was not in the presence of the other members of the body, so their votes were nullified and they were sworn in properly. When Roberts fumbled the Presidential Oath to Obama, they redid it the next day "just to make sure". They FOLLOWED the Constitution by quickly fixing the areas they messed up on. They didn't have to wait years for the courts to decide that they had messed up.