Conquer Club

Because the US can't declare bankruptcy and just default on debts.

April Fools?

no.
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/65209/d ... ommitment/

It's talk, but it's talk straight from the horse's mouth. "might" run for the white house he says. psshh...

I'd vote third party before voting for him (Cuz I wouldn't vote for Obama if hell froze over). Conservative? Ya right:

In addition to donating $116,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee since 1990, and giving the party $50,000 in soft money between 1998 and 2002, more than he did the GOP, Trump showed left-leaning political largesse by giving $7,000 to the late Senator Ted Kennedy, a total of $5,500 to Sen. John Kerry, $2,000 of which was for Kerry’s unsuccessful 2004 presidential run, $5,850 to New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a big LGBT advocate, and $2,000 to disgraced Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich. He has, over all, given far more to Democratic candidates than Republicans.

Mr_Adams wrote:no.
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/65209/d ... ommitment/

It's talk, but it's talk straight from the horse's mouth. "might" run for the white house he says. psshh...

I'd vote third party before voting for him (Cuz I wouldn't vote for Obama if hell froze over). Conservative? Ya right:

In addition to donating $116,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee since 1990, and giving the party $50,000 in soft money between 1998 and 2002, more than he did the GOP, Trump showed left-leaning political largesse by giving $7,000 to the late Senator Ted Kennedy, a total of $5,500 to Sen. John Kerry, $2,000 of which was for Kerry’s unsuccessful 2004 presidential run, $5,850 to New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a big LGBT advocate, and $2,000 to disgraced Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich. He has, over all, given far more to Democratic candidates than Republicans.

Gotta love that LGBT line about Kirsten Gillibrand. Says a lot about the author of the piece.

Woo! Trump for prez '12!!!

Trump was on The View recently and sounded pretty good
until he brought up Obama's birth certificate.
Ha ha! What a joke.

Ya, I don't care for that rhetoric. I don't think it's right, but I don't think it is my, or societie's, place to tell people what they can and cannot do when it doesn't have any effect on other people's lives. Still, the fact can be extracted from the excerpt is that Trump supports socialist progressives more than conservative republicans, but wants to run as the republican candidate.

oVo wrote:Trump was on The View recently and sounded pretty good
until he brought up Obama's birth certificate.
Ha ha! What a joke.

He still hasn't produced it. why doesn't he just make it public record and shut everybody up? And the fact that he was welcome on the view says enough. I think the presidential talk is a buisness move for him.

Mr_Adams wrote:

oVo wrote:Trump was on The View recently and sounded pretty good
until he brought up Obama's birth certificate.
Ha ha! What a joke.

He still hasn't produced it. why doesn't he just make it public record and shut everybody up? And the fact that he was welcome on the view says enough. I think the presidential talk is a buisness move for him.

Is this one still coming up? I honestly think that birthers will never be satisfied unless Obama personally turns up at their door with his birth certificate, and let's face it, they wouldn't believe him then.

When you say "produced" what exactly do you want him to do? Hold up a piece of paper? Birtherism is tedious, except when that Orly Taitz woman is interviewed. Then it's hilarious.

Anyway- here is his birth certificate.


Published by his campaign in 2008.

Ok, then why does it still come up? My gosh, people are stupid. Back on topic, DON'T VOTE FOR TRUMP.

Well, at least he'd fire people...

Mr_Adams wrote:Ok, then why does it still come up? My gosh, people are stupid. Back on topic, DON'T VOTE FOR TRUMP.

Well, at least he'd fire people...

Oh, too true, sir!

"You f*cked up Libya. You're fired."

Victor Sullivan wrote:

Mr_Adams wrote:Ok, then why does it still come up? My gosh, people are stupid. Back on topic, DON'T VOTE FOR TRUMP.

Well, at least he'd fire people...

Oh, too true, sir!

"You f*cked up Libya. You're fired."

I rarely actually laugh out loud at things in the forum. this made me giggle like a little girl.

Mr_Adams wrote:Ok, then why does it still come up?

Because you anti-intellectual, racist, tea baggers look for anything you can find due to hatred for having a half-black president.

Mr_Adams wrote:He still hasn't produced it.

There is no sky above either if we don't bother to look.

oVo wrote:

Mr_Adams wrote:He still hasn't produced it.

There is no sky above either if we don't bother to look.

Well, I haven't considered it an issue for a long time, so I wasn't aware that it had come out. I DON'T CARE. He's in the office now, we deal with it. Now stop derailing the thread. this is about the corporatist, Donald Trump.

Now that you finally know it exists, Donald will have to stand alone in his ignorance.

oVo wrote:Now that you finally know it exists, Donald will have to stand alone in his ignorance.

If only that were true. A poll of Republicans likely to vote in the primaries reported only about a quarter as believing that Obama was born in the US. More than half said he wasn't. The rest weren't sure. Now, polls are always dodgy for any number of reasons, but it's a disturbing result.

These are the people you need to win over to get nominated as a Republican candidate.

Donald Trump was in a television show that even aired here in the Netherlands. (The Apprentice, I think it was called?)

He was very cool to me (at some point, and somehow I cannot say this of many other non-musicians, I had a photo of him hanging in my room for a week or so ), but as I could have guessed, he's apparently the world's worst Republican dog :/

karelpietertje wrote:Donald Trump was in a television show that even aired here in the Netherlands. (The Apprentice, I think it was called?)

He was very cool to me (at some point, and somehow I cannot say this of many other non-musicians, I had a photo of him hanging in my room for a week or so ), but as I could have guessed, he's apparently the world's worst Republican dog :/

He's not a republican, he is a player of the world. Why you call him a republican when, as I pointed out, he puts more money into the democrat party, I don't know. I don't know if he's a conservative, as that ideology seems to no longer be associated with neither party. The tea party still has potential, no matter what Woodruff says.

I didn't get it correctly perhaps.
Why would he put both money on Democrats and Republicans?
That's kind of wasting your money when there's mainly just those two political parties...

Mr_Adams wrote:

karelpietertje wrote:Donald Trump was in a television show that even aired here in the Netherlands. (The Apprentice, I think it was called?)

He was very cool to me (at some point, and somehow I cannot say this of many other non-musicians, I had a photo of him hanging in my room for a week or so ), but as I could have guessed, he's apparently the world's worst Republican dog :/

He's not a republican, he is a player of the world. Why you call him a republican when, as I pointed out, he puts more money into the democrat party, I don't know. I don't know if he's a conservative, as that ideology seems to no longer be associated with neither party. The tea party still has potential, no matter what Woodruff says.

The article you posted didn't say that he puts more money into the Dems than the Republicans. It's a bit of a mess of an article, but the closest I could find to your statement was:

"In addition to donating $116,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee since 1990, and giving the party $50,000 in soft money between 1998 and 2002, more than he did the GOP, Trump showed left-leaning political largesse by giving $7,000 to the late Senator Ted Kennedy, a total of $5,500 to Sen. John Kerry, $2,000 of which was for Kerry’s unsuccessful 2004 presidential run, $5,850 to New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a big LGBT advocate, and $2,000 to disgraced Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich. He has, over all, given far more to Democratic candidates than Republicans."

Which is a huge mess of a statement. Essentially, only between 1998 and 2002, and only regarding "soft money" he apparently gave more to the Dems than Republicans. How much more is undefined, and what constitutes soft money seems pretty vague to me (on this point I don't know if there is a hard definition that I'm missing).

So, I'm not sure if your problem is that he predominantly supports Democrats (you've not provided evidence for that), or that he gave money to Democrats at all.

It's the fact that he gives to both parties. he plays the political system with pokes and prods, now he wants in. I say no.

Mr_Adams wrote:It's the fact that he gives to both parties. he plays the political system with pokes and prods, now he wants in. I say no.

Isn't that just demanding extreme partisan purity for a candidate though? A lot of Republican candidates and potentials are suffering for similar reasons. Willard Mitt Romney comes to mind.

Symmetry wrote:

Mr_Adams wrote:It's the fact that he gives to both parties. he plays the political system with pokes and prods, now he wants in. I say no.

Isn't that just demanding extreme partisan purity for a candidate though? A lot of Republican candidates and potentials are suffering for similar reasons. Willard Mitt Romney comes to mind.

Read my post. I don't want somebody who just wants to get into the office for his own personal gain. And looking at his past, that's what I would expect.

Mr_Adams wrote:It's the fact that he gives to both parties. he plays the political system with pokes and prods, now he wants in. I say no.

I got fastposted by Symmetry's remarks when asking for a source.

....will read the article you provided

The main thing that I would worry about Trump is, assuming he's a serious candidate and actually want to implement his ideology into law, how is he going to be able to get that passed through the Congress. It was hard enough for President Obama to get his health care law through with huge majorities in both houses. If a community organizer doesn't understand whatthefuck he's doing in Libya, how would a businessman who thinks he's a reality show superstar think he could do any better or be more clear in outlining a foreign policy?