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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby GreecePwns on Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:54 pm

The point I'm making is that Democrat and conservative are, for a good amount of the ones in Congress at least, interchangeable. I'm sure you've heard of the Blue Dog Democrats.

It's no accomplishment that a conservative group attracted conservatives.
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby Phatscotty on Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:57 pm

GreecePwns wrote:The point I'm making is that Democrat and conservative are, for a good amount of the ones in Congress at least, interchangeable. I'm sure you've heard of the Blue Dog Democrats.

It's no accomplishment that a conservative group attracted conservatives.


ask any Conservative and they will tell you. The attraction came from a LACK of Conservatives..
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby Nobunaga on Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:17 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:The point I'm making is that Democrat and conservative are, for a good amount of the ones in Congress at least, interchangeable. I'm sure you've heard of the Blue Dog Democrats.

It's no accomplishment that a conservative group attracted conservatives.


ask any Conservative and they will tell you. The attraction came from a LACK of (SOCIAL) Conservatives..


... I fixed that for you, Scotty.
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby Iliad on Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:55 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:And at least 10% of Democrats are conservatives. Conservative does not = Republican, Liberal certainly does not = Democrat.


I have respect for them. They are smart. Mostly this 10% consists of people who are not students and have a career job and pay taxes and have families to care for.


I think you missed the point there.


I might have been continuing on my original point, which is what you might have missed.

:twisted:

That with an except few, Democrats are all dumb students without a job, families or taxes to pay?
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:36 pm

Anyone who has read the book...Who do you think is todays "Wesley Mouch"?

here's some quotes from Wesley and about him.

“I wouldn’t exaggerate the importance of Buzzy Watts of the National Shippers Council. He’s been making a lot of noise and giving a lot of expensive dinners in Washington, but I wouldn’t advise taking it too seriously.”

“Oh, I don’t know,” said Mr. Weatherby.

“Listen, Clem, I do know that Wesley refused to see him last week.”

“That’s true. Wesley is a pretty busy man.”

“And I know that when Gene Lawson gave that big party ten days ago, practically everybody was there, but Buzzy Watts was not invited.”

“That’s so,” said Mr. Weatherby peaceably.

“So I wouldn’t bet on Mr. Buzzy Watts, Clem. And I wouldn’t let it worry me.”

“Wesley’s an impartial man,” said Mr. Weatherby. “A man devoted to public duty. It’s the interest of the country as a whole that he’s got to consider above everything else.” Taggart sat up; of all the danger signs he knew, this line of talk was the worst. “Nobody can deny it, Jim, that Wesley feels a high regard for you as an enlightened businessman, a valuable advisor and one of his closest personal friends. Taggart’s eyes shot to him swiftly: this was still worse. “But nobody can say that Wesley would hesitate to sacrifice his personal feelings and friendships—where the welfare of the public is concerned.”


“We can’t theorize about the future,” cried Wesley Mouch, “when there’s an immediate national collapse to avoid! We’ve got to save the country’s economy! We’ve got to do something!” …

“You’ve been making temporary adjustments for years. Don’t you see that you’ve run out of time?” said Rearden…

“We can’t afford any theories!” cried Mouch. “We’ve got to act!”

“Well, then, I’ll offer you another solution. Why don’t you take over my mills and be done with it?” said Rearden. …

“Oh no!” gasped Mouch.

“We wouldn’t think of it!” cried Holloway.

“We stand for free enterprise!” cried Dr. Ferris.

“We don’t want to harm you!” cried Lawson. “We’re your friends, Mr. Rearden. Can’t we all work together? We’re you friends.” …

“We don’t want to seize your mills!” cried Mouch

“We don’t want to deprive you of your property!” cried Dr. Ferris. “You don’t understand us!”

“I’m beginning to,” said Rearden.
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:00 pm

Baron Von PWN wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Finally, you have the option to pass up reading the book!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK7B6mAIhU0 New Atlas Shrugged Trailer

I saw it yesterday, I am going to see it again today, and I regret not having read the book earlier. I have always wished there was a book like this available, I guess I just needed to get over the size of it and figure there is a reason why it's the World's #2 best seller behind the Bible.


Actually I think the worlds #2 book is the communist manifesto.


I thought it was Mao's Little Red Book.

Either that, or DIANETICS!
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:50 pm

second most influential.
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby HapSmo19 on Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:02 am

It's not showing in my metro area of 350,000 because we respect diverse views around here.
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby GreecePwns on Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:06 am

I hadn't heard of Atlas Shrugged before this thread. I've heard of Webster's Dictionary, though.
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby Mr_Adams on Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:58 am

Mouch=Obama
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby Mr_Adams on Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:03 am

Read it thrice, and it was and is excellent. i am reading We the Living. GP, if you want to have some idea of why we feel the way we do, read Atlas Shrugged at least. The other 3 books are not so great on the topics here, Atlas is excelent.
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby Iliad on Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:12 am

Phatscotty wrote:second most influential.

According to one journalist.

But why bother. You've heard something that confirms your own worldview and as we all know there's no way you're oging to critically look at that.
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:14 pm

Iliad wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:second most influential.

According to one journalist.

But why bother. You've heard something that confirms your own worldview and as we all know there's no way you're oging to critically look at that.


one journalist? what happened to the poll of 5,000 book of the monthers, who entered their results into the Library of Congress?

I think that's about as official as it gets.
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby Timminz on Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:16 pm

Right, so "second most influential book among currently living Americans" is probably the furthest you're going to get on that one.
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:07 pm

I will be purchasing Beezelbub's Tales to his Grandson immediately! Thanks AoG!
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:12 pm

Iliad wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:second most influential.

According to one journalist.

But why bother. You've heard something that confirms your own worldview and as we all know there's no way you're oging to critically look at that.


Yeah! Why are you reading books about subjects that you already agree with! Preposterous! Ridiculous! You, Phatscotty, are no intellectual! Intellectuals only read books that are the antithesis of their world views of course. That's why they are so smart.

...

I liked Atlas Shrugged, although I probably will never read it again. It's too boring.
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby Mr_Adams on Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:33 pm

Timminz wrote:Right, so "second most influential book among currently living Americans" is probably the furthest you're going to get on that one.



Who else matters? ;) :lol:

Still want to make that tube into a cannon. duck down in there, kitty.
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby Phatscotty on Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:34 pm

The movie is set in 2016. It takes place during the final failures of socialism in America. gas is 37.50/ gallon. Companies are going bankrupt everyday until only a few large vital companies remain.

Atlas Shrugged is the fight before us today

Stossel: Why Hollywood Was Against the "Atlas Shrugged" Film
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby Army of GOD on Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:04 pm

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thegreekdog wrote:I will be purchasing Beezelbub's Tales to his Grandson immediately! Thanks AoG!


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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby Phatscotty on Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:14 pm

here is a cool interview I found with the makers of the movie and a q&a follows. Hope there are some haters :twisted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfr7vzSx1lU
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby GreecePwns on Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:41 pm

Phatscotty wrote:The movie is set in 2016. It takes place during the final failures of socialism in America. gas is 37.50/ gallon. Companies are going bankrupt everyday until only a few large vital companies remain.

Atlas Shrugged is the fight before us today

Stossel: Why Hollywood Was Against the "Atlas Shrugged" Film
This comment sums it up
So Hollywood liberals tried to 'stop' the film by making a sound business decision not to invest heavily in a film that would insult at least 99% of the audience and which had only niche appeal.

If this were an unsound, politically motivated decision, we'd see that reflected in the box office figures. But they were right: despite expanding to another 165 screens, last weekend's gross *fell* almost 50% from the opening weekend. But Hollywood should have backed it with a $50M budget. Right.
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby Phatscotty on Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:59 pm

GreecePwns wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:The movie is set in 2016. It takes place during the final failures of socialism in America. gas is 37.50/ gallon. Companies are going bankrupt everyday until only a few large vital companies remain.

Atlas Shrugged is the fight before us today

Stossel: Why Hollywood Was Against the "Atlas Shrugged" Film
This comment sums it up
So Hollywood liberals tried to 'stop' the film by making a sound business decision not to invest heavily in a film that would insult at least 99% of the audience and which had only niche appeal.

If this were an unsound, politically motivated decision, we'd see that reflected in the box office figures. But they were right: despite expanding to another 165 screens, last weekend's gross *fell* almost 50% from the opening weekend. But Hollywood should have backed it with a $50M budget. Right.


the comment is based on false information from at least 3 levels. honestly I dont even care to touch it.
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:04 am

< clicks on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beelzebub's_Tales_to_His_Grandson>

...

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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby GreecePwns on Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:12 am

Phatscotty wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:The movie is set in 2016. It takes place during the final failures of socialism in America. gas is 37.50/ gallon. Companies are going bankrupt everyday until only a few large vital companies remain.

Atlas Shrugged is the fight before us today

Stossel: Why Hollywood Was Against the "Atlas Shrugged" Film
This comment sums it up
So Hollywood liberals tried to 'stop' the film by making a sound business decision not to invest heavily in a film that would insult at least 99% of the audience and which had only niche appeal.

If this were an unsound, politically motivated decision, we'd see that reflected in the box office figures. But they were right: despite expanding to another 165 screens, last weekend's gross *fell* almost 50% from the opening weekend. But Hollywood should have backed it with a $50M budget. Right.


the comment is based on false information from at least 3 levels. honestly I dont even care to touch it.


No, it is not false. A 47.8 percent fall actually after moving from 299 screens to 465.

GP is shrugging.
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Re: Atlas is Shrugging

Postby john9blue on Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:59 am

i'm also shrugging, guys!
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