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Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:45 pm**

....Then neither is the contraception methods, supplies, or the consequences of what goes on in other people's bedroom.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:55 pm**

Phatscotty wrote:....Then neither is the contraception methods, supplies, or the consequences of what goes on in other people's bedroom.

You might have a change of mind once you've actually visited a bedroom other than your own.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:57 pm**

Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:....Then neither is the contraception methods, supplies, or the consequences of what goes on in other people's bedroom.

You might have a change of mind once you've actually visited a bedroom other than your own.

Okay, so Symm responds with "try not being a virgin".....

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:58 pm**

i'm not sure what the point of this thread is, but obviously the logic is flawless :-s

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:03 pm**

Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:....Then neither is the contraception methods, supplies, or the consequences of what goes on in other people's bedroom.

You might have a change of mind once you've actually visited a bedroom other than your own.

Okay, so Symm responds with "try not being a virgin".....

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:07 pm**

john9blue wrote:i'm not sure what the point of this thread is, but obviously the logic is flawless

Obamacare forcing contraception coverage, the policy of forcing others to pay for someone bad bedroom decisions, taxpayer money being used to hand out free condoms.....

The talking point of "what goes on in our bedroom's isn't anyone's business!" now has to be followed by "but the results of what goes on in our bedrooms is everyone else's responsibility/business!"

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:21 pm**

Phatscotty wrote:
john9blue wrote:i'm not sure what the point of this thread is, but obviously the logic is flawless

Obamacare forcing contraception coverage, the policy of forcing others to pay for someone bad bedroom decisions, taxpayer money being used to hand out free condoms.....

The talking point of "what goes on in our bedroom's isn't anyone's business!" now has to be followed by "but the results of what goes on in our bedrooms is everyone else's responsibility/business!"

Isin't this move just requiring employer provided Insurance to cover contraceptives? and not some kind of masive free contraceptive program?

How is using a contraceptive a bad bedroom decision? Aren't contraceptives a measure to prevent bad bedroom decisions?

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:25 pm**

I thought the issue was more about people getting angry because government regulation will require religious organizations to be hypocritical, or at least counter-productive.

IIRC, they'd be legally required to subsidize procedures which go against Christian values (e.g. abortion, contraceptives, or ... is that it?).

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:29 pm**

BigBallinStalin wrote:I thought the issue was more about people getting angry because government regulation will require religious organizations to be hypocritical, or at least counter-productive.

IIRC, they'd be legally required to subsidize procedures which go against Christian values (e.g. abortion, contraceptives, or ... is that it?).

From what i've read (which isin't much to be honest) the catholics are mad because this will require certain helth insurance providers run by the church to provide contraceptive coverage. Since every sperm is sacred that is a no no.

Anyways care to elaborate on what your grouching about this time scotty?

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:36 pm**

Phatscotty wrote:
john9blue wrote:i'm not sure what the point of this thread is, but obviously the logic is flawless

Obamacare forcing contraception coverage, the policy of forcing others to pay for someone bad bedroom decisions, taxpayer money being used to hand out free condoms.....

The talking point of "what goes on in our bedroom's isn't anyone's business!" now has to be followed by "but the results of what goes on in our bedrooms is everyone else's responsibility/business!"

Let's nominate Rick Santorum. I'm sure all government intrusions into our personal lives will stop.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:42 pm**

Does Obamacare require people to use contraception or just that it be covered by insurance?

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:43 pm**

America is one weird place.

Here you can go to your doctor and get enough rubbers to supply even the biggest of nymphos for a lifetime for about 3 bucks.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:04 pm**

Phatscotty wrote:....Then neither is the contraception methods, supplies, or the consequences of what goes on in other people's bedroom.

Exactly why you cannot truly object to this medical service being part of insurance.

The people who do object are those wanting to dictate behavior and to claim that their payments for employment give them the right to make very personal decisions for people they employ.

About like years ago when the boss pretty much told you to go to church.. or else. In fact, I can remember those days, to some extent.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:11 pm**

PLAYER57832 wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:....Then neither is the contraception methods, supplies, or the consequences of what goes on in other people's bedroom.

Exactly why you cannot truly object to this medical service being part of insurance.

The people who do object are those wanting to dictate behavior and to claim that their payments for employment give them the right to make very personal decisions for people they employ.

About like years ago when the boss pretty much told you to go to church.. or else. In fact, I can remember those days, to some extent.

WUT?

How about no insurance or individuals pay for someone else's contraception? Insurance providers, even religious ones, already have to provide contraceptive if it's used to treat medical conditions, so the only thing being achieved in this legislation is higher insurance costs and an assault on religion and the first amendment.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:12 pm**

Baron Von PWN wrote:Isin't this move just requiring employer provided Insurance to cover contraceptives? and not some kind of massive free contraceptive program?

How is using a contraceptive a bad bedroom decision? Aren't contraceptives a measure to prevent bad bedroom decisions?

You are correct... and thus some of the confusion as to the point of this thread.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:24 pm**

Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:....Then neither is the contraception methods, supplies, or the consequences of what goes on in other people's bedroom.

You might have a change of mind once you've actually visited a bedroom other than your own.

Okay, so Symm responds with "try not being a virgin".....

You know, it is possible to lose your virginity in your own bedroom. I'm talking biological possibilities here, I'm not offering odds in your case, but as a tip, women don't want to see a poster of The Gipper during foreplay.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:54 pm**

Bones2484 wrote:
Baron Von PWN wrote:Isin't this move just requiring employer provided Insurance to cover contraceptives? and not some kind of massive free contraceptive program?

How is using a contraceptive a bad bedroom decision? Aren't contraceptives a measure to prevent bad bedroom decisions?

You are correct... and thus some of the confusion as to the point of this thread.

Well Obama proposed it so therefore its bad and means the death of america or something.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:16 pm**

Baron Von PWN wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
john9blue wrote:i'm not sure what the point of this thread is, but obviously the logic is flawless

Obamacare forcing contraception coverage, the policy of forcing others to pay for someone bad bedroom decisions, taxpayer money being used to hand out free condoms.....

The talking point of "what goes on in our bedroom's isn't anyone's business!" now has to be followed by "but the results of what goes on in our bedrooms is everyone else's responsibility/business!"

Isin't this move just requiring employer provided Insurance to cover contraceptives? and not some kind of masive free contraceptive program?

How is using a contraceptive a bad bedroom decision? Aren't contraceptives a measure to prevent bad bedroom decisions?

Phatscotty wants more abortions, you see.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:20 pm**

Woodruff wrote:
Baron Von PWN wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
john9blue wrote:i'm not sure what the point of this thread is, but obviously the logic is flawless

Obamacare forcing contraception coverage, the policy of forcing others to pay for someone bad bedroom decisions, taxpayer money being used to hand out free condoms.....

The talking point of "what goes on in our bedroom's isn't anyone's business!" now has to be followed by "but the results of what goes on in our bedrooms is everyone else's responsibility/business!"

Isin't this move just requiring employer provided Insurance to cover contraceptives? and not some kind of masive free contraceptive program?

How is using a contraceptive a bad bedroom decision? Aren't contraceptives a measure to prevent bad bedroom decisions?

Phatscotty wants more abortions, you see.

It's not even purely about preventing pregnancies, by making contraceptives more widely available you greatly reduce STIs/ STDs.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:26 pm**

Baron Von PWN wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Baron Von PWN wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
john9blue wrote:i'm not sure what the point of this thread is, but obviously the logic is flawless

Obamacare forcing contraception coverage, the policy of forcing others to pay for someone bad bedroom decisions, taxpayer money being used to hand out free condoms.....

The talking point of "what goes on in our bedroom's isn't anyone's business!" now has to be followed by "but the results of what goes on in our bedrooms is everyone else's responsibility/business!"

Isin't this move just requiring employer provided Insurance to cover contraceptives? and not some kind of masive free contraceptive program?

How is using a contraceptive a bad bedroom decision? Aren't contraceptives a measure to prevent bad bedroom decisions?

Phatscotty wants more abortions, you see.

It's not even purely about preventing pregnancies, by making contraceptives more widely available you greatly reduce STIs/ STDs.

That's their just punishment for engaging in the vile sex, though.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:35 pm**

Evil Semp wrote:Does Obamacare require people to use contraception or just that it be covered by insurance?

Right, but this is only one piece of the overall picture. As we know, each piece as down slowly, over time, in ways that people do not notice. This isn't just about the Catholic thing, I'm going bigger picture with this, and pointing out the hypocrisy.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:37 pm**

Phatscotty wrote:
Evil Semp wrote:Does Obamacare require people to use contraception or just that it be covered by insurance?

Right, but this is only one piece of the overall picture. As we know, each piece as down slowly, over time, in ways that people do not notice. This isn't just about the Catholic thing, I'm going bigger picture with this, and pointing out the hypocrisy.

Oh, you're going to talk about yourself for a while?

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:39 pm**

Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Evil Semp wrote:Does Obamacare require people to use contraception or just that it be covered by insurance?

Right, but this is only one piece of the overall picture. As we know, each piece as down slowly, over time, in ways that people do not notice. This isn't just about the Catholic thing, I'm going bigger picture with this, and pointing out the hypocrisy.

Oh, you're going to talk about yourself for a while?

Woodruff, why do you want the government to dictate what products business must sell? Why do you want them to dictate what you buy? Why do you want them to dictate religious tenants to religious organizations? All of these are violations of the Constitution, so why do you label people like Phatscotty a hypocrite for wanting to be free?

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:41 pm**

Night Strike wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Evil Semp wrote:Does Obamacare require people to use contraception or just that it be covered by insurance?

Right, but this is only one piece of the overall picture. As we know, each piece as down slowly, over time, in ways that people do not notice. This isn't just about the Catholic thing, I'm going bigger picture with this, and pointing out the hypocrisy.

Oh, you're going to talk about yourself for a while?

Woodruff, why do you want the government to dictate what products business must sell?

Where did I say that I want any such thing, Night Strike?

Night Strike wrote:Why do you want them to dictate what you buy?

Where did I say that I want any such thing, Night Strike?

Night Strike wrote:Why do you want them to dictate religious tenants to religious organizations?

Where did I say that I want any such thing, Night Strike?

Night Strike wrote:All of these are violations of the Constitution, so why do you label people like Phatscotty a hypocrite for wanting to be free?

Well, this one is easy...Phatscotty is a hypocrite because he only wants freedom for HIS issues...he's made that pretty clear.

At any rate, did you have any other strawmen you'd like to attach to this? Out of all of that, you really only addressed on thing I've actually said.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:47 pm**

Where is freedom being violated by following the Constitution? The Constitution does not give the government the power to dictate any of those things, yet you disparage those who bring attention to it.

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