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Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:54 am**

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/1 ... 74018.html

According to FOX news, and thus all conservatives, that's what they get for serving their country!

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:09 am**

#1:

According to FOX news, and thus all conservatives,

Bullshit. I consider myself conservative and I do not even watch Fox News, much less agree with everything they say.

#2:

that's what they get for serving their country!

If indeed that is what she means by what she said, yes it is indeed contemptible, and worthy of severe consequences for her to make such a suggestion. But I don't think that was her point.

I think that in the statement "What did they expect?", the "they" to whom she is referring is the feminist lobby who pushed for the presence of women in the military and specifically in the front lines, and she is saying that, given human nature and specifically the nature of many males in the military, this was a likely consequence. The suggestion is that for the sake of their ideology, feminist leaders were at best naive, and at worst willing to sacrifice the safety of their own constituents.

If indeed she is in any way trying to absolve from culpability any soldiers who actually committed the assaults, or any officers who enabled them by looking the other way before, during or after the assaults, then that is not only wrong but contemptible. Nevertheless, I don't think that what she is saying is what you, or even the Huff Post are saying that she is. She ought to clarify, and apologize for speaking in such a way that could have been interpreted as such.

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:20 am**

Are they getting raped by Tea Party Rape Squads?

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:33 am**

pimpdave wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/13/fox-news-liz-trotta-rape_n_1274018.html

According to FOX news, and thus all conservatives, that's what they get for serving their country!

I have to admit, this lady's statements are...well, nothing short of awful.

One thing she doesn't mention, as it would go against her claims that too much money is being spent in supporting rape victims (what the hell?), is that even though rape claims have increased by 64%, a good deal of that is likely due to better reporting of rapes. These days, women feel more comfortable in reporting rapes than they used to.

My first clue that this OP was legit was that Dave didn't bring up the Tea Party anywhere.

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:41 am**

pimpdave wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/13/fox-news-liz-trotta-rape_n_1274018.html

According to FOX news, and thus all conservatives, that's what they get for serving their country!

Not according to FOX news... according to one analyst... and according to one coservative... :-s

That statement shows how NON serious this OP is. I disagree with her saying they shouldn't be protected, however, this is one of the reasons women have been discouraged to go the front lines.

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:45 am**

swimmerdude99 wrote:
pimpdave wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/13/fox-news-liz-trotta-rape_n_1274018.html

According to FOX news, and thus all conservatives, that's what they get for serving their country!

Not according to FOX news... according to one analyst... and according to one coservative... That statement shows how NON serious this OP is. I disagree with her saying they shouldn't be protected, however, this is one of the reasons women have been discouraged to go the front lines.

And what military service have you had to qualify that opinion?

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:09 pm**

My 3 cousins in the Marines... my uncle... my grandfather... my best friends sister is in the military...? I'm not sure what you are getting at here, that post made no point, and addressed nothing I said.

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:09 pm**

swimmerdude99 wrote:My 3 cousins in the Marines... my uncle... my grandfather... my best friends sister is in the military...? I'm not sure what you are getting at here, that post made no point, and addressed nothing I said.

So that makes you an expert? What does your best friend's sister say?

Just about all women polled want to be in combat roles. Pretty sure they're in a better place to decide that than someone who's not in the military.

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:31 pm**

i would not say that these women deserve rape (i do not know them so how can i). that is not really in question.

but what is a question, is if you look at the kind of man who joins the army then you have to ask why a woman would want to live and train with these men? officers can be okay but the man who is a private you are fair to at least consider the risks of them. it does seem a bit like the sheep attempting to walk into the cave of wolves, if a woman serves in the army.

the army is made of men who are happy to kill people. these are not men you would expect to treat a woman with safety.

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:17 pm**

That's ridiculous. No woman anywhere, deserves to be raped. To say the "type of people" recruited by the military put women in their own ranks at risk for sexual assault is absurd.

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:23 pm**

If a woman wants to serve in the military, why should she be deterred by the chance of rape? She shouldn't be punished for having strength in her convictions.

And if the risk is too high for a woman to expect to join the military unscathed, then that in itself is a problem. It shouldn't just be brushed off, and we shouldn't blame the victims for it.

If someone is killed by a drunk driver, nobody blames them for walking in the street on a Saturday night despite the risk involved; nor would anyone ask "What did you expect?" to a hypothetical group which lobbied for the right to walk in the street at night, because that would be absurd. This is no different.

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:24 pm**

swimmerdude99 wrote:My 3 cousins in the Marines... my uncle... my grandfather... my best friends sister is in the military...? I'm not sure what you are getting at here, that post made no point, and addressed nothing I said.

Do you consider your grandfather , uncle and cousins to be potential rapists ?

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:24 pm**

the carpet man wrote:i would not say that these women deserve rape (i do not know them so how can i). that is not really in question.

but what is a question, is if you look at the kind of man who joins the army then you have to ask why a woman would want to live and train with these men? officers can be okay but the man who is a private you are fair to at least consider the risks of them.

LOL, we're not talking about the Natal Mounted Police c. 1898 or the Canadian Airborne Regiment c. 2002 here.

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:42 pm**

swimmerdude99 wrote:My 3 cousins in the Marines... my uncle... my grandfather... my best friends sister is in the military...? I'm not sure what you are getting at here, that post made no point, and addressed nothing I said.

Swimmer, meet PimpDave...

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:43 pm**

daddy1gringo wrote:#1:
According to FOX news, and thus all conservatives,
Bullshit. I consider myself conservative and I do not even watch Fox News, much less agree with everything they say.

Seconded

I watch MSNBC all day everyday.

I like Crazy...

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:06 pm**

No one has answered my question.

Is the Tea Party Rape Squad responsible for this?!?

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:11 pm**

Whats preventing women making just as good soldiers as men [on the front line]?

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:49 pm**

Lootifer wrote:Whats preventing women making just as good soldiers as men [on the front line]?

Obviously, there's a slot in every machine gun where you have to insert your penis or it doesn't function properly.

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:17 pm**

natty dread wrote:
Lootifer wrote:Whats preventing women making just as good soldiers as men [on the front line]?

Obviously, there's a slot in every machine gun where you have to insert your penis or it doesn't function properly.

MYTH ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cONHZEgSeCo&t=3m57s

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:20 pm**

okay hippys maybe you did not read: i am not saying that it is okay for the women to be raped. i am saying that there is a risk when the woman joins the army. think: it recruits people who can't find employment anywhere else (low intelligence) and how want to kill people (vicious nature)

there is obviously danger there, same as walking through the favelas

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:21 pm**

the carpet man wrote:i would not say that these women deserve rape (i do not know them so how can i). that is not really in question.

but what is a question, is if you look at the kind of man who joins the army then you have to ask why a woman would want to live and train with these men? officers can be okay but the man who is a private you are fair to at least consider the risks of them. it does seem a bit like the sheep attempting to walk into the cave of wolves, if a woman serves in the army.

the army is made of men who are happy to kill people. these are not men you would expect to treat a woman with safety.

I sincerely hope you get to personally meet "the man who is a private that you are fair to at least consider the risks of them".

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:22 pm**

why? did he kill a cat and you want me to arrest him?

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:29 pm**

the carpet man wrote:why? did he kill a cat and you want me to arrest him?

It would kind of explain your flag if you were a cat policeman. Why are you trolling under an anonymous proxy banner?

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:31 pm**

now it's Romania

Posted: **Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:33 pm**

Should I continue keeping track, or not bother?

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