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DRINK THE SHIT!

That goat is a dirty whore.

Aside from the dirtiness of the barn.. yeah, goats milk has a lot of benefits.

Do all goat farmers marry 13 year old wives?

Goatsex aside.....


Our first son was fed commercial formula for a few months after the breast milk option became unobtainable.
We switched him over to goats milk, and it by far is vastly superior to anything else for infant feeding other than boob juice. Unlike cows milk, infants do not have difficulty or discomfort in digesting it, and all three of our sons thrived on it. As for drinking it as an adult, I find although it has great nutritional properties, it does make my rye taste funny.


JRock

Johnny Rockets wrote:Goatsex aside.....


Our first son was fed commercial formula for a few months after the breast milk option became unobtainable.
We switched him over to goats milk, and it by far is vastly superior to anything else for infant feeding other than boob juice. Unlike cows milk, infants do not have difficulty or discomfort in digesting it, and all three of our sons thrived on it. As for drinking it as an adult, I find although it has great nutritional properties, it does make my rye taste funny.


JRock

Goat milk has to be refridgerated IMMEDIATELY.. let it sit for even a couple minutes and the taste will change. It won't taste like pastuerized cow's milk, but will taste the same as unpasturized cow's milk. (dairyman's daughter here talking, grew up drinking unpasteurized cow's milk, then goat milk when my brother was found allergic) ... Though, of course, ALL milk has variences in taste depending on what the animal is fed.. that might be part of the issue above?)

Goat's milk is far superior to cow's milk for infants, but still does not provide the full nutrition of formula. It helped my friend's child, but I would not reccommend it unless there are no other options, because the child will be missing some nutrients that might not be essential to immediate survival, but that are important to long term health.

Also, for the best benefits it needs to be unpasturized... and that means putting them at risk for bacterial issues.

Johnny Rockets wrote:Goatsex aside.....

JRock

Reported for bigotry against Greeks.

player wrote:It helped my friend's child, but I would not reccommend it unless there are no other options, because the child will be missing some nutrients that might not be essential to immediate survival, but that are important to long term health.

Considering that lactase production diminishes drastically after weaning, I wouldn't say milk is necessary for survival at all.

I had ice cream once that was made with goat's milk... it was delicious. Also, while we never specialized in milk goats, my mother's farm raises Boer goats, which are bred generally for meat. Goat meat is great, I much prefer goat and lamb to cow. I almost never eat cow meat (or much meat period), but I'll make exceptions for goat. It's lower in fat than cow. Raising goats is easy, they also serve as weed and bush killers. It's cheaper to have them forage than to feed them grains. The best jerky I ever had was stuff we made from goat when I was working at a butcher shop.

I can only imagine that cow meat is so popular in the U.S. because of their yield; goat meat is easier, healthier, and more efficient on smaller scales. Plus it tastes great.

-TG

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:

player wrote:It helped my friend's child, but I would not reccommend it unless there are no other options, because the child will be missing some nutrients that might not be essential to immediate survival, but that are important to long term health.

Considering that lactase production diminishes drastically after weaning, I wouldn't say milk is necessary for survival at all.

I had ice cream once that was made with goat's milk... it was delicious. Also, while we never specialized in milk goats, my mother's farm raises Boer goats, which are bred generally for meat. Goat meat is great, I much prefer goat and lamb to cow. I almost never eat cow meat (or much meat period), but I'll make exceptions for goat. It's lower in fat than cow. Raising goats is easy, they also serve as weed and bush killers. It's cheaper to have them forage than to feed them grains. The best jerky I ever had was stuff we made from goat when I was working at a butcher shop.

I can only imagine that cow meat is so popular in the U.S. because of their yield; goat meat is easier, healthier, and more efficient on smaller scales. Plus it tastes great.

-TG

I never really had goat milk before. I tried it for the first time a few months ago from a can...it was HORRIBLE! However, I do eat lots of goat cheese. It is lovely on a Vinta/Dare cracker and served with a fig or fig Dalmatia sauce/chutney. It pairs incredibly well with a glass or two of Starling Castle Gewürtztraminer

But not to get off the subject, I started looking into goat's milk as an alternative for my father who cannot drink cow milk anymore. I was surprised by all the health talk about the stuff, so I bought a small carton of it. It tasted a WHOLE lot better than the stuff in the can! It was almost like drinking cream...matter of fact, I used it in my Chai Latte yesterday. It was fantastic. Only thing is that if I drink a glass of goats milk you might as well turn out the lights, because I am taking a nap!

When it comes to goat meat, I must say that I never tried it. I have had lamb before, and love it. However, in my neck of the woods, lamb prices are outrageous! I am forced to eat beef, pork, and chicken while all the good lamb stays on the shelf because the beef industry is so big here in South Dakota. If goat tastes anything like lamb, I am sure I would like it too.

Goat meat has a much milder flavour than lamb.

Creepers wrote:It was almost like drinking cream...matter of fact, I used it in my Chai Latte yesterday. It was fantastic. Only thing is that if I drink a glass of goats milk you might as well turn out the lights, because I am taking a nap!

Yeah, it actually has smaller fat globules, so the fat doesn't rise to the top like in cows' milk, and it doesn't have to be homogenized.

-TG

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:

player wrote:It helped my friend's child, but I would not reccommend it unless there are no other options, because the child will be missing some nutrients that might not be essential to immediate survival, but that are important to long term health.

Considering that lactase production diminishes drastically after weaning, I wouldn't say milk is necessary for survival at all.

Key word "after weaning".

TA1LGUNN3R wrote: I can only imagine that cow meat is so popular in the U.S. because of their yield; goat meat is easier, healthier, and more efficient on smaller scales. Plus it tastes great.

-TG

In a highly productive environment.. lots of grassland,etc. Cows are relatively efficient. If you get into harsher conditions, then goats have an easier time surviving. I think that has lead to a sort of bias, where weathier people, those with better land, could have cows and the poorer folks could only have goats. I think that is the real reason folks in the west in general tend to go toward cows. Also, sheep, needed for wool tended to take up the areas where cows could not do so well. Goats would have more directly competed (though sheep, like goats can thrive in good conditions, of course).

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:

Creepers wrote:It was almost like drinking cream...matter of fact, I used it in my Chai Latte yesterday. It was fantastic. Only thing is that if I drink a glass of goats milk you might as well turn out the lights, because I am taking a nap!

Yeah, it actually has smaller fat globules, so the fat doesn't rise to the top like in cows' milk, and it doesn't have to be homogenized.

-TG

Does it still have to be pasteurized? I know it's illegal to sell unpasteurized cow milk around here, but pasteurizing takes away most of the benefits. If you don't have to pasteurize goats milk, then I will try to pick some up at the Trader Joes locally.

kentington wrote:

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:

Creepers wrote:It was almost like drinking cream...matter of fact, I used it in my Chai Latte yesterday. It was fantastic. Only thing is that if I drink a glass of goats milk you might as well turn out the lights, because I am taking a nap!

Yeah, it actually has smaller fat globules, so the fat doesn't rise to the top like in cows' milk, and it doesn't have to be homogenized.

-TG

Does it still have to be pasteurized? I know it's illegal to sell unpasteurized cow milk around here, but pasteurizing takes away most of the benefits. If you don't have to pasteurize goats milk, then I will try to pick some up at the Trader Joes locally.

You will have a very hard time finding unpasteurized milk in the US. Here, the only way to do it is to become a partial owner of a goat. You can still drink milk from your own goats unpasteurized.

I can remember when Alta Dena first came out with unpasteurized cows milk and all the hassles they had to go through. Dairies in California have to be a LOT cleaner than in most states, anyway. In Alta Dena the standards were very, very high.. more than most hospitals (literally). I have not heard of any goats milk dairies selling milk commercially like that, but I would not be surprized to find some.