New Monopoly Board

[Phatscotty]

[pimpdave]

This is in opposition to the political views I express on this forum, therefore it must be trolling!

[whitestazn88]

This is in opposition to the political views I express on this forum, therefore it must be trolling!

This comment offends my political views general opinion. You are a troll.

[shieldgenerator7]

awww..... and I was hoping for Here & Now revamped....

[Juan_Bottom]

That's the most racist cartoon ever, it's also elitist, if you think about it. All that money goes to help minorities and the poor to lift themselves out of poverty. The cartoonist, that b*tch Lisa-something, wants to hold the poor down. Obviously the OP's cartoonist is an elitist who never really had to struggle for anything. Probably a Tea Partier too. But definitely a full blown retard. That cartoon isn't even funny on a trolling level. It's just elitist and ignorant.
The Dow is also like 5000 points over where it was when Bush was in charge. Everything Obama is doing he is doing right.... Some welfare and unemployment is good for the country. When we put all those Iraqis out of work and didn't give them welfare, they started killing soldiers and looting. So obviously the cartoonist is also an anarchist who wants to kill US military personnel. Nice.
Everything that the Conservative party talks about is just plain retarded. That's the worst part about that cartoon, it's not an interesting social observation, it's just propaganda that caters towards people's fears, ignorance, and regurgitated stupidity. It's not original, it's just repeating what the Republican party has been left to cry wolf about since Obama has been kicking ass. There isn't a comment about corporate welfare, ect.... just the poor's welfare. Oh no, be careful who you attack because we're a nation of the corporation, by the corporation, and for the corporation. There's definitely no class warfare going on here you ignoramuses.... lets doodle little propaganda pieces like this to keep Conservatives angry and butthurt in their little emotional hearts. It's the sh*t like that that makes the rest of us start deducting perceived IQ points from Conservative people that we don't even know. It's not the fact that a Conservative cartoonist would scribble this retarded piece of garbage, it's that the rest of them would consider it important enough to elevate it and circulate it on any website or media.

-Sully

[Victor Sullivan]

Well, I was going to say something, but I guess I was already here.

WAIT JUST A GOSH DARN MINUTE...! Erm, uhhh, nevermind...

-Sully

[shieldgenerator7]

Well, I was going to say something, but I guess I was already here.

WAIT JUST A GOSH DARN MINUTE...! Erm, uhhh, nevermind...

-Sully

lshicastr juan stole your sig

[Lootifer]

Isnt welfare the same thing as unemployment? not enough material for a third box eh? That cartoonist is amazing...

[Juan_Bottom]

Isnt welfare the same thing as unemployment? not enough material for a third box eh? That cartoonist is amazing...

Welfare is for people who can't work, like someone who is disabled. So the alternative that the cartoonist prefers is to litter our streets with people who are disabled. Or maybe the cartoonist wants to Euthanize them the way that the Nazis did to their handicapped in Berlin. That cartoonist is a f*ck.

Unemployment is just meant to cover you or anyone when you're between jobs. The concept has had to be flexible lately since the Republican party f*cked up the economy and took away all of our jobs.

-Sully

[Lootifer]

Welfare is for people who can't work, like someone who is disabled.

Quoting to see if this is the definition that PS agrees with and, secondly, still thinks welfare is a bad thing...?

[rdsrds2120]

Welfare isn't just for people who can't work, but also for people with a very low-income. It comes in forms of cash assistance, food benefits, WIC, etc.

Unemployment usually comes in larger quantities than most single Welfare program and is meant to be a temporary provision while people are looking for work while unemployed.

-rd

[Lootifer]

The way PS talks about welfare on these boards I got the impression that US wlefare is pretty easy to get; that is there's a valid, and easy, choice between welfare and low income work for people in low socio-economic groups.

[Juan_Bottom]

Ahh, those forms of welfare are state-run so Obama would have little to do with them. I think that WIC is federally sponsored, but still state run and administered. In 1996 our other cool Democratic president signed some badass legislation that handed those, and most forms of welfare over to the states. So if you don't like the welfare or assistance programs that are going on in your state, then you have a problem with your state legislature and governor not Obama or the feds. Clinton's bill actually removed something like 30% of the people who were on it at the time. I know that you agree with me so I'm not preaching at you RDS.

Welfare is not easy to get. You have to have some devastating disease, or no arms or legs, or make minimum wage and be the only income earner in a household of like, three.... something like that. If you do live in one of those ways or very similar, then yeah you pretty much qualify for welfare anywhere in the US. But honestly, that doesn't make it "easy" to be on or qualify for welfare. You're still crippled, or dying, or poor as all hell. That's not an easy life. These are some of our society's weakest members and these Conservative assholes are hating on Obama for allowing them some little sense of Human Dignity. He's not even in control of this; each state handles this however they like.

The Statue of Liberty says:
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

I love this poem so much. I quote it all the time.
And to me, it means something. It's a promise, you know? But these conservative pricks will exploit anything to garner any semblance of political power. Even if it means taking our own "wretched refuse" and turning them into a scapegoat or worse.

-Sully

[Juan_Bottom]

The way PS talks about welfare on these boards I got the impression that US wlefare is pretty easy to get; that is there's a valid, and easy, choice between welfare and low income work for people in low socio-economic groups.

In many places, but mostly only in the Conservative South, West, and Southwest there are many people on welfare who also work a full time job. Native Americans in particular are exploited for their labor but paid very little. They can't freely leave the reservations, but the only work available pays $4.19 an hour. The standard of living cost is something like $7 an hour down there. Then they don't get any benefits, and employers don't even have to offer them health insurance because the Federal government is supposed to provided it for free
(by peace treaty). But federal funding for Native American health care only lasts for 6 months because it is underfunded by Congress... but I'm going off on an angry tangent here.

-Sully

[shieldgenerator7]

I can't decide whether Juan's copying of Sully's sig is an insult or compliment, or a way to honor him. (or is he a multi )

-Sully ( )

[Phatscotty]

Welfare is for people who can't work, like someone who is disabled.

Quoting to see if this is the definition that PS agrees with and, secondly, still thinks welfare is a bad thing...?

I was just gonna point that out. Disability and social security are for handicapped people etc.

Welfare is for people who have very little money and suck at figuring out how to get it on your own. It depends where you are from, but usually you need to be pregnant, have children, but you can also get it from being to dependent on drugs, severely unemployed for a long period of time. there are other reasons just going off what I know from a couple peeps I know. states are different too.

Overall, the point made on the monopoly board has been mostly missed.

[Lootifer]

Welfare is for people who can't work, like someone who is disabled.

Quoting to see if this is the definition that PS agrees with and, secondly, still thinks welfare is a bad thing...?

I was just gonna point that out. Disability and social security are for handicapped people etc.

Welfare is for people who have very little money and suck at figuring out how to get it on your own. It depends where you are from, but usually you need to be pregnant, have children, but you can also get it from being to dependent on drugs, severely unemployed for a long period of time. there are other reasons just going off what I know from a couple peeps I know. states are different too.

Overall, the point made on the monopoly board has been mostly missed.

Oh we got the point, I'm just picking it apart because I think it's kinda lame.

[Phatscotty]

Welfare is for people who can't work, like someone who is disabled.

Quoting to see if this is the definition that PS agrees with and, secondly, still thinks welfare is a bad thing...?

I was just gonna point that out. Disability and social security are for handicapped people etc.

Welfare is for people who have very little money and suck at figuring out how to get it on your own. It depends where you are from, but usually you need to be pregnant, have children, but you can also get it from being to dependent on drugs, severely unemployed for a long period of time. there are other reasons just going off what I know from a couple peeps I know. states are different too.

Overall, the point made on the monopoly board has been mostly missed.

Oh we got the point, I'm just picking it apart because I think it's kinda lame.

It's a reflection of an entitlement society.

[Night Strike]

Ahh, those forms of welfare are state-run so Obama would have little to do with them. I think that WIC is federally sponsored, but still state run and administered. In 1996 our other cool Democratic president signed some badass legislation that handed those, and most forms of welfare over to the states. So if you don't like the welfare or assistance programs that are going on in your state, then you have a problem with your state legislature and governor not Obama or the feds. Clinton's bill actually removed something like 30% of the people who were on it at the time. I know that you agree with me so I'm not preaching at you RDS.

Except how many of those "state-run" programs are actually federal mandates (which in-itself is also unconstitutional)?

The Statue of Liberty says:
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

I love this poem so much. I quote it all the time.
And to me, it means something. It's a promise, you know? But these conservative pricks will exploit anything to garner any semblance of political power. Even if it means taking our own "wretched refuse" and turning them into a scapegoat or worse.

Actually, it says that because in America every person, even the poor, has the ability to better their standing in society. They have the ability to prosper in America, which is not something that was available in the rest of the work. It is not an indication that the government will take care of them. It is an indication that entering the land of the free means you have the opportunity to succeed.

[Juan_Bottom]

It's a reflection of an entitlement society.

It's a reflection of the Conservatives battle with reality. And it's largely a reality that they have created themselves. Conservative states receive more of this federal "entitlement" money than the liberal states do. And as I said, state-run welfare is not Obama's fault.

Actually, it says that because in America every person, even the poor, has the ability to better their standing in society. They have the ability to prosper in America, which is not something that was available in the rest of the work. It is not an indication that the government will take care of them. It is an indication that entering the land of the free means you have the opportunity to succeed.

Yeah, but think about that from the poor's perspective for a second. Have you ever heard that expression that you can tell how great a society truly is by how it treats it's meekest members? How about we cross that expression with this Conservative cartoon and with the New Colossus promise. What we have is a cartoon that reflects how the Conservatives of this country are constantly attacking the weakest members of our society. They're attacking the poor, the disabled, and don't forget that they always attack immigrants. Immigrants don't even have the ability to vote... Meanwhile Democrats attack big business and the rich, and they're the ones who are actually in power. It's no small coincidence that Blacks, Latinos, Hispanics, and Native Americans are an unnatural crutch that the Democrats can always count on. Startlingly, even though Hispanics and Blacks agree are typically overly religious and agree with Conservatives on many issues, Republicans never seem to get past 25% support from either community. And that's because they are also typically poor and Republicans scapegoat them for it. How can Conservatives have the balls to call the Republican party "the Party of God" while simultaneously picking on the poorest and politically weakest groups this country has? It doesn't take an Atheist to say that Jesus would never behave like this. And don't forget, Conservative states are typically welfare states... they receive more federal dollars than they pay in through taxes. What an unbelievable hypocrisy.


-Sully

[Phatscotty]

It's a reflection of an entitlement society.

It's a reflection of the Conservatives battle with reality. And it's largely a reality that they have created themselves. Conservative states receive more of this federal "entitlement" money than the liberal states do. And as I said, state-run welfare is not Obama's fault.

You think it matters one iota who uses more? I got news for you, when people are handed money they didn't earn, they are going to take it and it doesn't fucking matter what their politics are! I don't get what your point is with that other than to rip conservatives. And nobody is saying Obama created welfare either? wtf?

[Juan_Bottom]

I don't get what your point is with that other than to rip conservatives.

You posted a Conservative cartoon penned by a retard that blames the head of the Federal Government for state-run welfare. @ the same time, Conservative States receive the most welfare money.... You're right though, you hand Conservatives money and they'll take it and then use you as a political scapegoat for even giving it to them in the first place. Other than the fact that your cartoon is sickeningly attacking the disabled and poor, it's also undermined by how absolutely hypocritical it is.

-Sully

[pimpdave]

You think it matters one iota who uses more?

Yup, when it's the conservative states blaming things on Obama, when they're taking the most and the blue states give the most yet want to maintain a social safety net, yup. It sure does matter.

Hey, Juan, remember when that Tea Bagger held up a sign reading "Keep Your Government Hands Off My Medicare"? They aren't known for being intelligent, but they are known for being racist and violent!

I don't get what your point is with that other than to rip conservatives.

If you don't get the point and are feeling insulted, that's not the fault of Juan's point (which does exist, is completely legitimate and goes a long way to undermining your fantasy world view).

[Lootifer]

Helping poor people is bad durr, they should get on the bandwagon and make some moola!

[Phatscotty]

Yup, you guys are right. Obama is passionately promoting independence, economic liberty, and freedom. He has no interest in expanding the entitlement society.