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Top 10 Reasons Mitt Won't Win and Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:25 pm
by Phatscotty
OBAMA
The working assumption, in the modern media, is that Obama simply cannot lose his reelection bid. Obviously, they want “The One” to be around for two. While their ever-present and sometimes intense rooting for him will certainly help Obama, there are a host of reasons why Obama will lose. Here’s a list:

1. Obama’s Shrinking Coalition. Obama was only elected with 52.9% of the vote. That is a slim majority. Since taking office he has shrunk that coalition by fighting with Americans. Here are some of the ways he did that:

a. He alienated most of what little Republican support he had with the Stimulus Bill;

b. He alienated support in energy related states by shutting down the Gulf after the BP spill, rejecting the Keystone pipeline, and imposing part of Cap & Trade through the EPA after it failed in Congress, including his draconian new rules for the coal industry;

c. He alienated law and order folks by wanting to try foreign combatants in American Courts;

d. He alienated many religious minded voters, including Catholic Bishops (no easy task) with his mandated contraception insurance coverage rules; and

e. He alienated voters who care about the Constitution, or at least our governmental balance with ObamaCare, his imposition of Czars and other rather undemocratic ways of he is pushing his policies on the American voter.

Also, Obama’s current strategy of pitting Americans against one another is a complete reversal of his 2008 strategy of wanting to unite people and is an admission that his prior coalitions have fallen apart.

2. The Enthusiasm Gap. Rabid support on the Left has dropped for Obama. To them, Obama is not as “pure” as they would like. That drop off is not an unusual effect for a sitting President. Beyond that, in 2008, enthusiasm was greatly in favor of the Democrats, yet Obama only got to 52.9% of the vote. In the 2010 midterm elections, the enthusiasm advantage was held by Republicans to great effect. The same dynamic will hold true this year even if not to the same degree.

3. ObamaCare’s Impending Supreme Defeat. ObamaCare has never been popular with voters. Since it was imposed on voters, a majority of Americans have been against it and by a 3 to 1 margin they have been against the individual mandate. If and when the Supreme Court overturns it, voters will be happy it is gone and Obama will be tagged with a major and embarrassing election year defeat.

4. Obama has raised Taxes and is Campaigning to Do it Again. In over 20 ways, including Obamacare, Obama has raised taxes against far more than those making over $250,000. He will let the Bush tax cuts expire and he is actively campaigning for tax increases. The last 8 Presidential winners have campaigned for tax cuts – as Obama did 4 years ago. No winners in the last 8 have campaigned for tax increases.

5. The Deficit is Too High for Reelection. The deficit is over a trillion dollars per year and is expected to be so for some time. National debt has risen to the top of polling concerns of Americans. Bush 41, despite an improving economy that was growing over 4% per year on Election Day, lost his reelection because Ross Perot made the deficit such a huge issue. Although the deficit alone does not hold center stage in this election, it certainly is dragging down Obama’s approval numbers.

6. Unemployment too High for a Reelection. We haven’t reelected a President, since the Great Depression, with unemployment above 7.2%. It is above 8% now and recent figures give every indication it may go higher. Further, the number of Americans that have dropped out of the workforce/looking for a job is at an all-time high. Reagan was reelected despite what was then a high rate because unemployment had dropped from 10.8% 23 months earlier to 7.2% by Election Day. Obama can show no such progression. Indeed, some economists expect it to rise in the short run.

7. Obama’s Leadership Deficit: He Has No Plans for our Major Problems & Blames Others. Devoid of a good economic record and despite enacting or imposing all of his policies, Obama continues to blame others for America’s problems. That is decidedly un-presidential after 4 years. Worse, he has no clear plans to deal with the future. No plan to deal with unemployment, no clear plans to deal with the deficit (other than raising tax rates – bad idea), no clear plans to deal with high gas prices, no clear plans to deal with rising health care premiums, etc. Leadership is about vision, plans, the ability to execute on those two and the ability to get voters to support them and help you. Without clear plans, voters won’t back Obama after 4 years of economic trouble. Fool me once . . .

8. Consumer Confidence is too low for a Reelection. We haven’t reelected a president or his party in the television age with Consumer Confidence Index, as measured by The Conference Board, below 100. Right now it is at 70. Although it was improving earlier this year from around 60 a year ago, higher gas prices have begun to choke off the economy and the unemployment picture is and will be impacted by our slowing economy. Gas prices will rise again this summer further impacting Consumer Confidence. As a result, it will be nearly impossible for Consumer Confidence to get anywhere near 100. It may not get to 80. So for Obama to win, the last two reason (unemployment and consumer confidence) would have to be ignored in historic fashion.

9. Republicans will Rise from Here. The end of a tough primary fight is usually the low point for the out party. Republican on Republican or Democrat on Democrat can be quite negative because the policy differences between the two are usually small and therefore to make a difference, candidates get personal. Once it becomes Republican on Democrat, policy differences can take center stage. In this case, it will move from Republican infighting to Obama’s record. That’s a stage on which Republicans can win.

10. A Simple, Practical Presidential Election.
It is true; this is the most important election in a generation. From ObamaCare, to the economy, the next Supreme Court appointment, to Iran, there is a lot on the line. Even so, it will not be a complicated election.
In the final analysis, people will do two things this fall: (1) ask if they are better off than 4 years ago and (2) cast a vote for their future. Statistically, voters are not better off – whether that is based on employment figures or loss in wealth including dramatic drops in home owner equity. Psychologically, they are not better off either. Over 70% of Americans say we are headed in the wrong direction (reason #11).

ROMNEY

#10: Romney's main success stories are Staples and Dominos. These companies pay very poorly and are not a model for the economy as a whole -- at least, not an economy most of us would want to live in. Would you want to try to raise a family delivering pizzas for Dominos? To Romney, the plight of low wage workers is a theoretical one. His response to earning less that a hundred grand a year would probably be to take out a huge loan —but unlike Paul Cellucci, he could pay it off by cashing in a CD!

#9: One of the reasons Romney lost his bid for the Senate was the embarrassing revelations about how Bain treated employees at Ampad (also known as American Pad & Paper Co.), and in the wake of Enron, Worldcom, and Global Crossing, this may be just as embarrassing: Romney's company, Bain Capital, is being sued over possible defrauding of investors. Despite Ampad's bankruptcy, Bain walked out with a $50 million profit. Romney did not own stock in Ampad personally, but as vice president of Bain, he was surely aware of the overly rosy financial projections used to sell the stock to small investors. The 1996 stock offering sparked charges of insider trading and accounting fraud. Sound familiar?

#8: Speaking od fraud, remember all the scandals over the Salt Lake Olympics? They didn't end when Romney took over! Not only are the central figures in the Salt Lake Olympics bidding scandal likely to get off scot-free, the organizers paid them handsomely to go away. Tom Welch got a $1 million severance fee from SLOC and Dave Johnson reported $200,000. And unless a federal appeals court allows prosecutors to bring bribery, fraud, and racketeering charges against them, Welch and Johnson won't even stand trial. This "severance pay," several times what a typical Massachusetts worker earns in a year, came out of the small "profit" Romney and the SLOC eked out of the Olympics thanks to all the private donations and government handouts ("corporate welfare").

#7: Romney was only able to "save" the Olympics because of huge giveaways. The Utah congressional delegation strong-armed the Parks service to give pristine parkland to a multimillionaire to develop the skiing venue for free, despite the fact that he will make millions off it in the future. Most of the workers at the event forked for free, so the Salt Lake Olympic Committee (SLOC) didn't even have to pay the minimum wage most employees of Romney companies make. Maybe Romney thinks if he adks nicely, state troopers, garbage collectors, and teachers will work for free to make him look good!

#6: Romney said he "didn't notice" that Utah had him listed as a resident and gave him a $38,000 break on his property taxes. Anyone think he would have noticed a $38,000 increase? Did he illegally try to claim both states as his residence in order to maintain eligibility to run for office both places? We'll never know, because he refuses to release his income tax statements.

#5: Romney has no governmental experience at all. Zero. He had a message on his web site saying, "Romney to Legislature: Get Back in Session Now!" Like his confusion in the debates over the duties of a treasurer, he doesn't seem to understand the duties of governor or the legislature, He seems to think the governor is a CEO that can order the legislature around and fire them. Earth to Romney: the legislature is an elected body that doesn't answer to you. As for lowering taxes without cutting services, Romney thinks all you have to do to pay for something is go to the federal government and ask for a handout. After all, it worked for the Olympics!

#4: Romney's lack of experience doesn't make him an outsider. though. He is surrounded by advisors and other insiders from the Weld and Bush camps. Remember "the mess on Beacon Hill" and "we need change on Beacon Hill"? Well, we've had 12 years of Republican governors. If it's time for a change, vote for someone else!

#3: Romney thinks he is too important to pay dues. His only campaigns have been for U.S. Senate and Governor of Massachusetts. Considering his ties to the Bush white house, it's very possible that he only views the governor's office in Massachusetts as a stepping stone to the 2008 presidential race.

#2: Romney lied. He said he would not run against Swift, then he did, forcing her out of the race. Then he said he would not choose a running mate, but would let the Republican party choose one. Then he chose Kerry Healey and spend millions of dollars selling her to the public, capsizing Jim Rappaport's campaign with massive spending. And we're supposed to believe him when he says he's "not in this race for the rich"?

And the #1 reason not to vote for Mitt Romney is:

Romney is making a big deal of "not being in this race for the rich," but where have you seen Romney bumper stickers and yard signs? Mostly on luxury cars and SUVs and in the yards of mansions, high-priced condos, and big businesses. And who does he think he's fooling with his "made for the press" tries at pumping gas or selling hot dogs? How many of you have such perfectly coiffed hair and impeccably tailored blue jeans without a stain, tear, or patch? Romney is just plain out of touch!

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:30 pm
by Nola_Lifer
So your saying Romney is going to win? Calling fail on this one.

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:55 pm
by pmchugh
You forgot the words "I hope" in your title.

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:11 pm
by Phatscotty
Nola_Lifer wrote:So your saying Romney is going to win? Calling fail on this one.


What I shared is the top 10 reasons Obama will lose. It's a pretty simple statement, but if you want to change it to something else, then the fail is on you.

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:12 pm
by Phatscotty
pmchugh wrote:You forgot the words "I hope" in your title.


Hope 4 Change! Given that 70% of Americans think Obama is taking us in the wrong direction, there are going to be a lot of other people "hoping" as well.

yeah.....Romney doesn't have a chance! :lol:

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:29 pm
by rdsrds2120
Phatscotty wrote:
pmchugh wrote:You forgot the words "I hope" in your title.


Hope 4 Change! Given that 70% of Americans think Obama is taking us in the wrong direction, there are going to be a lot of other people "hoping" as well.

yeah.....Romney doesn't have a chance! :lol:


If 90% (or any number above 70) of Americans thought that Romney would be leading the country in the wrong direction, Obama would probably win. Incomplete conclusion.

MUAHAHAHAH!

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Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:55 pm
by Lootifer
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Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:37 am
by Maugena
Looks like your poll is kicking your ass. P:'

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:49 am
by saxitoxin
Scott, I know a lot of pretty hardcore Ron Paul supporters and I don't know a single one who will be voting for Romney electors in the general election. They've all told me they'll be abstaining out of principle or voting for Governor Johnson. You're the first one I've seen who has expressed enough enthusiasm for Mitt Romney you would make a case for him.

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:50 am
by natty dread
Scotty just really, really hates Obama. Probably because Scotty is so racist.

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:42 am
by oVo
Scotty is envious of Obama's financial security and fully functional ears.

Ten reasons to vote for Mittens
(1) He's always had money, knows how to use it and will single handed fix the World economy.
(2) He's one of the few Americans who can personally afford to finance his own campaign.
(3) He will look after the special interests of the wealthy, who will surely be so grateful
that they will employ everyone who is currently out of work.
(4) If Mittens is elected the one percenters will be confident about their tax cushions,
stop hording all the money and the economy will grow strong again.
(5) Banks will loosen their sphincters and start awarding commercial loans again
with Mittens in the White House to boost their money grubbing egos.
(6) If Mittens is willing to spend his own hard earned money to buy the election
he should be allowed to live in the White House.
(7) A President Mittens would surely let everyone eat cake too.
(8) Mittens knows how to handle his woman; keeping her at home, barefoot and pregnant.
(9) I identify with Mittens because he wears blue jeans just like us common working folk.
(10) Mittens went to the American South, ate the "cheesy grits" and survived the ordeal.
Much like the "Water of Life" in Dune, he endured the ultimate test proving to all
that his true destiny is to rule the Free World.

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:12 am
by BigBallinStalin
At first I was going to do more valuable activities other than vote (e.g. fapping, reading, or going outside), but oVo has convinced me--especially with that cheesy grits part. You know us southern boys always cream the pants when a president eats food that we don't really eat.

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:03 am
by comic boy
Scotty I have long said that Obama would get a second term , you have several times mocked this view yet refused to bet me . That bet is still on , will you now put your money where your mouth is or just concede I was right all along :D

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:06 am
by Bones2484
Title of this thread should be renamed to: "10 Reasons Why a Competent Republican Candidate Would Surely Destroy Obama in an Election; Too Bad We Have This Pathetic Group Lead by Mittens"

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:11 am
by comic boy
Bones2484 wrote:Title of this thread should be renamed to: "10 Reasons Why a Competent Republican Candidate Would Surely Destroy Obama in an Election; Too Bad We Have This Pathetic Group Lead by Mittens"


Precisely the point I made 6 months ago !

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:21 pm
by Nola_Lifer
Gonna reiterate the fail part again. FAIL :!: :D Have a nice day.

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:31 pm
by oVo
comic boy wrote:Scotty I have long said that Obama would get a second term , you have several times mocked this view yet refused to bet me . That bet is still on , will you now put your money where your mouth is or just concede I was right all along :D

You should probably bet a paltry and meaningless sum of money on the outcome
following the lead of Mittens... say $10,000.

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:22 pm
by patches70
Hey, at least Romney didn't eat his dog......

Seriously though, Republicans should remember this lesson, and Democrats should rethink their own beliefs-

Marion Barry, former mayor of Washington DC and a democrat. He was elected mayor, got caught smoking crack, sent to prison and when he got out was elected again to be mayor of the nation's capital. That means that democrats would rather have a crackhead as mayor than a republican.

Think about that.

Republicans, you think Obama's crappy record matters? That he'll be beaten because people will care about his record? You've got a rude awakening coming.

Democrats, you think that Romney is some sort of bastard whose policies will destroy the nation but fail to realize that his policies are virtually the same as Obama's? Can you honestly say that Obama's policies have been any different than Bush Jr?


People only see the "D" or the "R" and never seem to understand that they are being lied to and used like useful idiots easily whipped into a frenzy for whatever "side" they think themselves on. All the while the politicians who bemoan each other publicly sit back behind closed doors and greedily divvy up the spoils they have siphoned from your sweat and labor.

America gets what she deserves.

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:28 pm
by oVo
patches70 wrote:Hey, at least Romney didn't eat his dog...

That's only because Mittens put the family pet on the roof of the car
where he wouldn't be tempted while driving.

I don't think Mittens will destroy the country, but he won't move it forward either
and isn't going to be an improvement on any recent administration.

Obama inherited a fucked economy complete with dinosaur industries too big to watch go under by their own greedy actions and several ongoing wars. He hasn't invented reasons to start new wars or lied to the country to justify his actions. Any change in this government will occur at less than a snail's pace and there is no shortage of politicians in Washington dragging their feet to insure this fact. The current priority of both parties seems to be preventing the other one from accomplishing anything that might be considered progress in a positive direction, even if it comes at the expense of the citizens they were elected to serve.

I don't see the biggest problem as being who occupies the Oval Office when it is the Congressional quagmire --with it's credo of "do as I say and not as I do"-- that continuously bogs things down. Absurd amounts of money are squandered getting elected to "public service" positions which have become lifetime careers that are only worth the financial investment if that authority is abused to satisfy the special interest groups who helped put them there. Few if any are ever held accountable for their actions by a voting public who don't seem to mind a good rogering while the machinations of government bumble along conducting business as usual and political history --for the most part-- just repeats itself.

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:40 pm
by saxitoxin
patches70 wrote:Hey, at least Romney didn't eat his dog......

Seriously though, Republicans should remember this lesson, and Democrats should rethink their own beliefs-

Marion Barry, former mayor of Washington DC and a democrat. He was elected mayor, got caught smoking crack, sent to prison and when he got out was elected again to be mayor of the nation's capital. That means that democrats would rather have a crackhead as mayor than a republican.

Think about that.

Republicans, you think Obama's crappy record matters? That he'll be beaten because people will care about his record? You've got a rude awakening coming.

Democrats, you think that Romney is some sort of bastard whose policies will destroy the nation but fail to realize that his policies are virtually the same as Obama's? Can you honestly say that Obama's policies have been any different than Bush Jr?


People only see the "D" or the "R" and never seem to understand that they are being lied to and used like useful idiots easily whipped into a frenzy for whatever "side" they think themselves on. All the while the politicians who bemoan each other publicly sit back behind closed doors and greedily divvy up the spoils they have siphoned from your sweat and labor.

America gets what she deserves.


Good point, Patches.

It's unclear to me why an Obama supporter would be too terribly upset if Romney were elected. Romney supports everything Obama has supported the last 4 years: killing Arabs, Obamacare (he did it before Obama), yes to the PATRIOT Act, yes to the Zionist Enemy, keeping Gitmo open and running as usual, tax cuts for mega-corporations (see: USA Jobs Act), etc.

Likewise, why would a Romney supporter be too upset if Obama were re-elected?

Like every USA election, this is just a vote on who has the best neckties.

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Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:55 pm
by patches70
saxitoxin wrote:Scott, I know a lot of pretty hardcore Ron Paul supporters and I don't know a single one who will be voting for Romney electors in the general election. They've all told me they'll be abstaining out of principle or voting for Governor Johnson. You're the first one I've seen who has expressed enough enthusiasm for Mitt Romney you would make a case for him.


People are getting tired of voting for the "lesser of two evils".

The Dems tried the "Anything but Bush" strategy in 2004 with stupid Kerry. It didn't work so well for them.....

Insanity, doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. That's our politicians. That's our political parties.


oVo wrote:Obama inherited a fucked economy complete with dinosaur industries too big to watch go under by their own greedy actions and several ongoing wars. He hasn't invented reasons to start new wars or lied to the country to justify his actions.


Under Obama those "too big to fail" institutions have only grown even bigger. He bombed Libya creating an even worse humanitarian crisis than was already there. He's given tax payer money to shadow groups masking terrorist groups to the Egyptians. He is fomenting more craziness in Syria, all these things are none of the US's business. He's taken kickbacks and given loans to his pet companies which then go bankrupt and losing taxpayer money.
And the bit about Obama not lying, that's just hilarious. Hell, he lied plenty just in his campaign to get elected in the first place.
(For example, his pledge to use the public government fund for his campaign and then go back on that promise to accept massive donations from the very special interest groups you bring up later in your post.)

oVo wrote:Any change in this government will occur at less than a snail's pace


There is no change. There is never even the attempt.


oVo wrote:I don't see the biggest problem as being who occupies the Oval Office when it is the Congressional quagmire --with it's credo of "do as I say and not as I do"-- that continuously bogs things down. Absurd amounts of money are squandered getting elected to "public service" positions which have become lifetime careers that are only worth the financial investment if that authority is abused to satisfy the special interest groups who helped put them there. Few if any are ever held accountable for their actions


I agree with this for the most part.
You do know that McCain went the government campaign finance route during the 2008 election, right? Under the rules of use for those funds puts a massive damper on those special interest groups you mention. Obama on the other hand, well, he promised to do that as well until he realized he can get a whole hell of a lot more money by catering to those special interest groups. Right?

How much is Obama's war chest for this run? I've seen reports of a billion dollars. Yet it seems that the perception is that Romney is the evil capitalist and yet Obummer gets a pass. Hmm.....

Obama is horrible. Romney will no more take the country in "the wrong direction" as Ears in Chief is now. Yet, there will be sycophants for the POTUS (and his opponent) who are all too happy to demonize the opponent and yet fail to see the horns, tail and forked tongue of their own guy.

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:57 pm
by saxitoxin
In 'Fahrenheit 451' Ray Bradbury wrote wrote:"Sounds fine," said Mrs. Bowles. "I voted last election, same as everyone, and I laid it on the line for President Noble. I think he's one of the nicest-looking men who ever became president."

"Oh, but the man they ran against him!"

"He wasn't much, was he? Kind of small and homely and he didn't shave too close or comb his hair very well."

"What possessed the ‘Outs’ to run him? You just don't go running a little short man like that against a tall man. Besides, he mumbled. Half the time I couldn't hear a word he said. And the words I did hear I didn't understand!"

"Fat, too, and didn't dress to hide it. No wonder the landslide was for Winston Noble. Even their names helped. Compare Winston Noble to Hubert Hoag for ten seconds and you can almost figure the results."


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:58 pm
by Phatscotty
saxitoxin wrote:Scott, I know a lot of pretty hardcore Ron Paul supporters and I don't know a single one who will be voting for Romney electors in the general election. They've all told me they'll be abstaining out of principle or voting for Governor Johnson. You're the first one I've seen who has expressed enough enthusiasm for Mitt Romney you would make a case for him.


Not you too Saxi! I just made a poll man. I have not voted in it.

I don't want to vote for Romney, I want to vote against Obama.

BTW new national delegate count for Minnesota is 10 pledged for Paul, 2 for Santorum, 0 for Romney, 0 for Gingrich.

I hear Ron Paul has a shot at winning the delegates in Missouri as well. Stay tuned!

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:00 pm
by Phatscotty
saxitoxin wrote:
patches70 wrote:Hey, at least Romney didn't eat his dog......

Seriously though, Republicans should remember this lesson, and Democrats should rethink their own beliefs-

Marion Barry, former mayor of Washington DC and a democrat. He was elected mayor, got caught smoking crack, sent to prison and when he got out was elected again to be mayor of the nation's capital. That means that democrats would rather have a crackhead as mayor than a republican.

Think about that.

Republicans, you think Obama's crappy record matters? That he'll be beaten because people will care about his record? You've got a rude awakening coming.

Democrats, you think that Romney is some sort of bastard whose policies will destroy the nation but fail to realize that his policies are virtually the same as Obama's? Can you honestly say that Obama's policies have been any different than Bush Jr?


People only see the "D" or the "R" and never seem to understand that they are being lied to and used like useful idiots easily whipped into a frenzy for whatever "side" they think themselves on. All the while the politicians who bemoan each other publicly sit back behind closed doors and greedily divvy up the spoils they have siphoned from your sweat and labor.

America gets what she deserves.


Good point, Patches.

It's unclear to me why an Obama supporter would be too terribly upset if Romney were elected. Romney supports everything Obama has supported the last 4 years: killing Arabs, Obamacare (he did it before Obama), yes to the PATRIOT Act, yes to the Zionist Enemy, keeping Gitmo open and running as usual, tax cuts for mega-corporations (see: USA Jobs Act), etc.

Likewise, why would a Romney supporter be too upset if Obama were re-elected?

Like every USA election, this is just a vote on who has the best neckties.


One candidate is not a Communist though....

Re: Top 10 Reasons Obama Will Lose

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:15 pm
by Lootifer
Did you really just call Obama a commie?