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Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:07 pm
by lilwdlnddude
http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-officially-ineligible
http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/04/13/obama-lawyer-admits-forgery-but-disregards-image-as-indication-of-obamas-ineligibility-damage-control/
Thought i would share some info that i have come across today. Take a peek, I've found articles all over the internet pertaining to this. Surprised i haven't seen much of anyone talking about this at all really.....
Any thoughts on this everyone?

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:11 pm
by Army of GOD
"Jeffrey Phelps

Denver Conspiracy Examiner"

haha

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:16 pm
by Phatscotty
Is this related to what Sheriff Arpiao found?

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:18 pm
by Army of GOD
Oh wait, never mind. I'm a conservatron.

OBAMA IS FROM KENYA

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:33 pm
by betiko
Army of GOD wrote:Oh wait, never mind. I'm a conservatron.

OBAMA IS FROM KENYA


and you are probably not a native american. i think only native americans should be eligible and allowed to vote.

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:11 pm
by BigBallinStalin
Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is “irrelevant to his placement on the ballot”.

Hill went on to contort reasoning by implying that Obama needs only invoke his political popularity, not legal qualifications, in order to be a candidate.


http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/04/ ... e-control/

Haha

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:38 pm
by saxitoxin
betiko wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:Oh wait, never mind. I'm a conservatron.

OBAMA IS FROM KENYA


and you are probably not a native american. i think only native americans should be eligible and allowed to vote.


All you have to do is wear a bolo tie to be a Native American.

Sometimes you don't even need to do that. If a big, fat, mom with red hair named Cheryl Todd can be on the Grand Council of Elders of the Mohican Nation, I'm sure little AoG is probably a Warrior of the Sacred Spirit Path of the Mapoa or something.

http://www.mohegan.nsn.us/Government/tribalCouncil.aspx

I've long supported the FTC Advertising Enforcement Authority require the Mohicans change their tribal motto to: "We Looked More Interesting in the Movie" -


Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:50 pm
by Phatscotty
Drudge Report is sharing it.....wonder how far this one will go?

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:14 am
by Neoteny
My money is on "too far."

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:17 am
by oVo
Is it April 1st again?
such credible sources
It's on teh innerwebs, so it must be true.

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:05 am
by GabonX
I know this story isn't exactly vetted, but just out of curiosity would you Obama supporters have your opinions of the man's candidacy altered in any way if it turns out that the allegations of deception and forgery (a felony ) proved to be true?

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:15 am
by crazymilkshake5
one of his parents wasnt born in the USA, so that fact alone should make him out of office.

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:59 am
by GabonX
crazymilkshake5 wrote:one of his parents wasnt born in the USA, so that fact alone should make him out of office.

I don't know about that, but there is an unspoken dynamic which is coming to light in the words of Obama's proposed legal counsel.. That being that the majority of people who see this as a non-issue wouldn't dispute Obama's candidacy even if it were shown that he was not a natural born citizen.

Hill went on to contort reasoning by implying that Obama needs only invoke his political popularity, not legal qualifications, in order to be a candidate.

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:02 am
by AndyDufresne
i r plx vot now!


--Andy

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:46 am
by saxitoxin
I'm really hesitant to trust the summary of a court proceeding from a website called teapartytribune.com (anymore than I'd trust the summary of something else from owsnews.com) ... I did manage to sit through the first 20 minutes of the video of that hearing, I didn't have time to watch the whole thing.

First of all, Apuzzo just doesn't seem like a very good lawyer. I don't know for a fact but I'm guessing he might be along the lines of some other attorneys in this controversy (i.e. Orly Taitz) and received his law degree through correspondence course.

    As far as the summary that TPT.com crafted, it doesn't seem to correlate to what really happened in the video. Apuzzo made one argument about a petitioner being required to certify the eligibility of a candidate to which the judge said "so is your case here about the nominee or the circulator?" to which he stuttered and then said "... the circulator? ... the circulator!" at which point the Obama attorney objected saying they couldn't respond to that because that's not the case Apuzzo originally brought. That seems reasonable, you can't expect some lawyer to prepare for a case other than the one which was filed and isn't quite analogous to admitting they couldn't prove the certificate was authentic as TPT.com said.

That said, Obama has obviously gotten a pass on the whole birth certificate thing but it looks more like that's a result of the only people objecting being attorneys trained from online law schools who are in over their heads than anything else. I'm no lawyer so maybe I'm wrong on all of this.

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:01 am
by Army of GOD
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Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:06 am
by Neoteny
This thread is now racist.

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:17 am
by betiko
are you guys serious?

probably none of you guys are true americans; you are all european, asians, africans descendants.. so because your grandpa or your great grandpa made it to the US you are looking down on people who are like second generation? how stupid is that? the US is just a regroupment of different nationalities,your country is among the newest in the world, not even 250 years old and isn't based on a specific ethnicity.

in france we have a norwegian born and raised woman with french passport running for president (the elections are this week end) and we are not making a big deal about it, even if she has a huge accent.

Obama is just American, do you really think he feels closer to kenya? does he speeks like a kenyan?

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:40 am
by saxitoxin
betiko wrote:your country is among the newest in the world, not even 250 years old


As a country the U.S. is 405 years old (as a state it's 236).

betiko wrote:Obama is just American, do you really think he feels closer to kenya? does he speeks like a kenyan?


I don't think Scott, et. al., are arguing Obama is engineering a vast conspiracy to propel Kenya to world power status. The only argument is whether Obama forged his identity documents or not.

Are some things illegal in France and other things legal? If some things are illegal, and Sarkozy did one of those things, should he be held to account or not?

betiko wrote:in france we have a norwegian born and raised woman with french passport running for president (the elections are this week end) and we are not making a big deal about it, even if she has a huge accent.


The U.S. and France do not use the same constitution. France uses a constitution imposed by a military junta after an army coup d'etat in 1958. The U.S. uses a constitution approved after a convention in 1783 (which followed an army coup d'etat in 1776).

    - Article 65 of the French constitution requires members of the Conseil Superieur be French citizens.

    - Article whatever of the U.S. constitution requires the U.S. President be a U.S. citizen.

    - The constitution of the so-called "Federal Republic" of Germany requires the "FRG" president be 1,000 years old.

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:06 pm
by mviola
crazymilkshake5 wrote:one of his parents wasnt born in the USA, so that fact alone should make him out of office.

God forbid he actually has influence from another country...

AMERICA!

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:57 pm
by Army of GOD
AMURICAN

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:35 pm
by TA1LGUNN3R
crazymilkshake5 wrote:one of his parents wasnt born in the USA, so that fact alone should make him out of office.


This is dumb, if you're serious.

The Constitution does not define the phrase natural-born citizen, and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its precise meaning. The Congressional Research Service has stated that the weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion indicates that the term means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship "at birth" or "by birth," including any child born "in" the United States, even to alien parents (other than to foreign diplomats serving their country), the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residency requirements.[1]


-TG

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:38 pm
by TA1LGUNN3R
betiko wrote:are you guys serious?

probably none of you guys are true americans; you are all european, asians, africans descendants.. so because your grandpa or your great grandpa made it to the US you are looking down on people who are like second generation? how stupid is that? the US is just a regroupment of different nationalities,your country is among the newest in the world, not even 250 years old and isn't based on a specific ethnicity.


And the "natives" came over 14k years ago (and killed off many native species), so what's your point? What's an acceptable time for true american-ness?

-TG

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:14 pm
by Phatscotty
Neoteny wrote:This thread is now racist.


please stop. You are in fact the very thing you hypocritically pretend to be pointing out and opposed to.....hope ya know.

Think about it

Re: Obama officially ineligible for presidency

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:46 pm
by Neoteny
Phatscotty wrote:
Neoteny wrote:This thread is now racist.


please stop. You are in fact the very thing you hypocritically pretend to be pointing out and opposed to.....hope ya know.

Think about it


You don't know what the f*ck you're talking about.