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Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:44 am
by Gillipig
Who are your intellectual heroes?

Mine are Charles Darwin, Richard Dawkins, Albert Einstein and Voltaire.

Darwins contribution to our understanding of our place in the world is unparalleled.
He was a great scientist who also struggled with many of the problems people do today.
"Do you speak what you consider the truth and suffer the consequences, or stay silent and betray yourself?" A genius with ordinary problems is always nice for a change.

Dawkins hard ball attitude to science and the fact of evolution in particular is a fresh wind in a society that always seems to bend to religious groups.
He does not consider religion to have any place in our society and isn't afraid of going into detail why.
Not to mention his incredible argumentary skills that would make even the best politician jealous. I've yet to see a debate where he didn't utterly destroy his "opponent". It's hard to debate with someone who knows so much more about the subject, and is a way better speaker than you.
"Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence."

Albert Einsteins surname has become equal with someone geniously smart which in itself speak volumes of his importance to us.
His personal life was a mess, with multiple divorces and their like. But still we've all at some point wished we had his brain power.
His work on general relativity is known by most who's gone to school.
He's also the ultimate proof of how wrong the nazis were. How else could the smartest man that ever lived be a part of the most inferior race?

Voltaire is known by his surname only. Not because he's that famous but because he's got a hell lot of first names :) . And he used Voltaire as his cover for the then controversial work he wrote.
A very complicated individual without the same consistency as many of my other intellecual heroes but also the one I can identify the most with.
One of his most famous works is "Candide" which I've read dozens of times without over exaggerating.
It is very short however though :).

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 3:03 pm
by Army of GOD
Jack Ruby

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 3:12 pm
by Symmetry
Walter Benjamin- great writer, great thinker. A Marxist who can talk about Marxist ideas without seeing them as a manifesto for what should happen.

William Blake- great poet, great artist, and a really interesting theologian.

Christopher Hitchens- even when I disagree with his work, the man was formidable, and leaves me trying to work out how I can justify my disagreement.

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 3:17 pm
by Phatscotty

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:02 pm
by BigBallinStalin
Symmetry wrote:Walter Benjamin- great writer, great thinker. A Marxist who can talk about Marxist ideas without seeing them as a manifesto for what should happen.

William Blake- great poet, great artist, and a really interesting theologian.

Christopher Hitchens- even when I disagree with his work, the man was formidable, and leaves me trying to work out how I can justify my disagreement.


The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction

I thought that name sounded familiar.

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:05 pm
by Symmetry
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Walter Benjamin- great writer, great thinker. A Marxist who can talk about Marxist ideas without seeing them as a manifesto for what should happen.

William Blake- great poet, great artist, and a really interesting theologian.

Christopher Hitchens- even when I disagree with his work, the man was formidable, and leaves me trying to work out how I can justify my disagreement.


The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction

I thought that name sounded familiar.


Yup, but he gets more interesting the more you read though. He's not great for expressing his thoughts in a single essay.

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:08 pm
by BigBallinStalin
What would you say is his most interesting article, or <50 page excerpt?

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:26 pm
by Crazyirishman
Plato- all of western philosophy is a footnote to Plato

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:26 pm
by Symmetry
BigBallinStalin wrote:What would you say is his most interesting article, or <50 page excerpt?


Honestly, the main thing I find interesting about Benjamin is that I can't do that. I respect him for his lack of simplicity, and his complexity. I like breaking down thinkers into their basics and working back up. Benjamin mostly thinks about perception. He's interested in experience and shock.

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:15 pm
by rdsrds2120
Tesla and DeGrasse Tyson.

You already said Dawkins :(
Which reminds me, I was supposed to tell someone about the lecture I got to go to of his last October...I think it was McMutton or AoG.

-rd

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:23 pm
by Haggis_McMutton
This guy:

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I mean look at that facial hair. IT'S GLORIOUS.

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 7:10 am
by Maugena
Yeah Tesla!
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Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 7:41 am
by lynch5762
Great question!!

In my opinion, the most most brilliant minds that are still thinking today, belong to Michio Kaku and Steven Hawking...

I wonder what the great thinkers of the past would have deciphered with the knowledge of today? I consider these men to be true genus's but I am not sure how to compare them to our previous "intellectual heroes"

Darwin was brilliant and I am a true believer in his theories on basic human instinct. I wonder where the great thinkers of today stand on his ideas?

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 8:36 am
by jonesthecurl
Crazyirishman wrote:Plato- all of western philosophy is a footnote to Plato


Typical republican

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:23 am
by Gillipig
lynch5762 wrote:Great question!!

In my opinion, the most most brilliant minds that are still thinking today, belong to Michio Kaku and Steven Hawking...

I wonder what the great thinkers of the past would have deciphered with the knowledge of today? I consider these men to be true genus's but I am not sure how to compare them to our previous "intellectual heroes"

Darwin was brilliant and I am a true believer in his theories on basic human instinct. I wonder where the great thinkers of today stand on his ideas?

I think Kaku's greatest strength is his ability to explain the most advanced physics to ordinary people. You don't need to be well educated to understand what he's talking about. And yet he's describing very advanced laws and theories. I don't rank his intelligence as high as Stephen Hawking but his ability to relay what he knows to other people is truly amazing.

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:25 am
by Neoteny
I'm a pretty devout Saganite.

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 12:56 pm
by pimpdave


Rodney Dangerfield, greatest philosopher of the 20th century.

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:03 pm
by Haggis_McMutton
Neoteny wrote:I'm a pretty devout Saganite.

+1

wait, actually:
+∞

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:22 pm
by Neoteny
+2000000000 & 2000000000

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:18 pm
by TA1LGUNN3R
Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Neoteny wrote:I'm a pretty devout Saganite.

+1

wait, actually:
+∞


Sagan's awesome. I've always liked Feynman as well.

-TG

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:50 pm
by Neoteny
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Neoteny wrote:I'm a pretty devout Saganite.

+1

wait, actually:
+∞


Sagan's awesome. I've always liked Feynman as well.

-TG


I always feel like he exaggerated everything to brilliant absurdity. I don't care, though, because he was a fantastic storyteller, and a wonderful communicator.

I <3 Feynman.

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 4:03 pm
by rdsrds2120
Maugena wrote:Yeah Tesla!
Image


A little piece from The Oatmeal on one of my heroes:

show


-rd

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 5:05 pm
by Army of GOD
"Tesla lived in a time when the world demanded results that were practical and profitable". Yea, because Einstein lived in the same time yet is regarded as the greatest thinker in oh, you know, of all-time. I hardly think the general theory of relativity is "practical" yet he knew how to cash in his fame.

Tesla might have been scientifically smart, but his being used by Edison shows what little he knew about other shit.

If you want to make the argument that Tesla is the striaght-out-of-the-catalog geek that browses 4chan and jerks it to loliporn then I guess that's a good argument. But to say he was "shafted" just goes to show Tesla's weaknesses.

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 5:31 pm
by TA1LGUNN3R
"Tesla lived in a time when the world demanded results that were practical and profitable."

What's wrong with that?

-TG

Re: Intellectual heroes

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 5:42 pm
by Army of GOD
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:"Tesla lived in a time when the world demanded results that were practical and profitable."

What's wrong with that?

-TG


I'm saying that's hardly true considering the success of the theoretical physicists of that time (Einstein, Planck, Bohr)