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Posted: **Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:34 am**

I can't get into everything tonight, but some major signals were sent last Friday. One that you likely won't hear about was Gold in that it made a 100$ move in 1 day. I have never seen that before, and it's a very big deal. I think we are about to get some bad news, the kind that will be felt by everyone, no matter where you are. A storm is coming, and it might be the perfect storm.

It's gonna be a crazy Summer on every front.

QE to infinity is for certain. About that there is no question whatsoever. It cannot be avoided.

Operation twist is a damn joke stimulation wise. At this point in time it is a dark joke.

The Fed is playing with something worse than fire. This video references a worldwide financial crisis that if it starts cannot be stopped by any power on the planet.

They are already easing up on the rhetoric. The Fed will downright panic as the world’s economies go from slow to dropping out of sight. That is what is on the plate tonight, this night, right here and now.

QE to infinity is more certain than death and taxes. Problems are reaching terminal velocity right now, here, today.

QE to infinity might hold things together, in a sense, for 24 more months with gold above $3000.

Every major economy in the world is slowing, and slowing rapidly.

Posted: **Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:37 am**

Git yer guns!

Posted: **Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:07 am**

Thanks Phatscotty. With your non-news, I would never get my daily fill of non-news!

--Andy

Posted: **Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:50 pm**

AndyDufresne wrote:Thanks Phatscotty. With your non-news, I would never get my daily fill of non-news!

--Andy

Posted: **Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:28 am**

It's so weird to me that this is all centering around paper and electronic money, which is just paper debt. It's not real wealth, ya know?

What should we do Phatts, organize an army and take the government back?!

Posted: **Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:50 am**

Vote for Alexander.

Posted: **Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:55 am**

A vote for Alexander is a vote for Neoteny's wallet.

Posted: **Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:32 pm**

Juan_Bottom wrote:It's so weird to me that this is all centering around paper and electronic money, which is just paper debt. It's not real wealth, ya know?

What should we do Phatts, organize an army and take the government back?!

I cannot say. I can only show you the door. You have to walk through it on your own.

Did anyone notice the monkey in the video? hehe

Posted: **Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:56 pm**

Juan_Bottom wrote:It's so weird to me that this is all centering around paper and electronic money, which is just paper debt. It's not real wealth, ya know? What should we do Phatts, organize an army and take the government back?!

Ron Paul the Rock Opera (rough draft):

Posted: **Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:38 am**

man Saxi, you have too much time on your hands! I had a 25 hour shift at work yesterday (not kidding) and here you are spending your time making funny videos to post online lol

Edit: not that I'm complaining, of course; it's very entertaining!

Posted: **Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:49 am**

Yeah I liked how he cranked the volume at the end when silver was mentioned. Shows he actually watched my video...

Posted: **Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:59 am**

It's amazing how something as abstract as "economy" freaks everyone out.

Posted: **Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:04 am**

Army of GOD wrote:It's amazing how something as abstract as "economy" freaks everyone out.

QE3 should freak people out. The existence of QE3 means QE1 and QE2 did not work, and it's easy to see how this can go Weimar style. Every Stimulus will be bigger than the previous one, and will need to happen sooner than previously thought.

Posted: **Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:17 pm**

Phatscotty wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:It's amazing how something as abstract as "economy" freaks everyone out.

QE3 should freak people out. The existence of QE3 means QE1 and QE2 did not work, and it's easy to see how this can go Weimar style. Every Stimulus will be bigger than the previous one, and will need to happen sooner than previously thought.

Just like Ron Paul will come through and pull off a miracle to win the Repub nomination?

Just buy ur damn gold and shoosh.

Posted: **Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:02 am**

Army of GOD wrote:It's amazing how something as abstract as "economy" freaks everyone out.

Yeah, I guess if you'd lost your job in 2009 and haven't found a new job you shouldn't be worried about the economy. What? There are like 24 million people like that? Nevermind then.

Posted: **Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:14 am**

thegreekdog wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:It's amazing how something as abstract as "economy" freaks everyone out.

Yeah, I guess if you'd lost your job in 2009 and haven't found a new job you shouldn't be worried about the economy. What? There are like 24 million people like that? Nevermind then.

AoG's just being a hipster, tgd. Don't mind him.

-rd

Posted: **Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:42 pm**

Lootifer wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:It's amazing how something as abstract as "economy" freaks everyone out.

QE3 should freak people out. The existence of QE3 means QE1 and QE2 did not work, and it's easy to see how this can go Weimar style. Every Stimulus will be bigger than the previous one, and will need to happen sooner than previously thought.

Just like Ron Paul will come through and pull off a miracle to win the Repub nomination?

Just buy ur damn gold and shoosh.

Gold???

, yeah you know what you're talkin about! I wish I could afford to buy some gold. Lootifer, the writing is on the wall. If you can't read, then that sucks...

I didn't say Ron Paul was going to pull off a miracle. I said I was going to support him 100%, no matter what, until the end and then beyond. We achieved our short term goal of winning at least 5 states, which wasn't supposed to be possible. The Campaign for Liberty and the Tea Party are growing, not shrinking. So long as the debts and the deficits and the spending and an exponentially growing government are the status quo, we too will grow exponentially. We will grow until we win. This is bigger than a single election, and even if Ron Paul were the president, that is only a part of Restoring America.

Posted: **Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:26 am**

Did you know? Silver is 5 times more rare than Gold.

Posted: **Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:39 am**

Juan_Bottom wrote:It's so weird to me that this is all centering around paper and electronic money, which is just paper debt. It's not real wealth, ya know?

What should we do Phatts, organize an army and take the government back?!

$500.00 Silver = Triumph over the corrupt Bankers and their system of confiscation, manipulation, and raping the world. BTW, anyone notice the slew of downgrades on all the major banks? Most of them were dg'd 2 notches, and some of them even got knocked down 3 notches! A Major shift is occurring. This is the deep shit we have all been arguing about for the last couple years. When it comes to Debt.....we went all in and we doubled down. Now we are going to have to cover that bet.

This is much easier than you might think. All we need to do is spread the word and promote education on the issue. Our victory is inevitable. The power is in the peoples hands, all we have to do is realize it and take a stand. The 4th Great Awakening in American History is already underway.

The Revolution is now

Posted: **Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:13 am**

Phatscotty wrote:Did you know? Silver is 5 times more rare than Gold.

Yet it's fairly common for regular people to have silver and it's allways less expensive.

So what's the scam making gold so expensive. The only benefit is it does not tarnish. As a commodity it's not particularly usefull. The purpose is to manipulate the public into investing so those controlling the market can shift revenues to themselves.

If they shift the market to place value on something else, gold becomes worthless and the poor are stuck asking other poor people if they would trade some gold for something of value.

The answer would be no.

Posted: **Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:11 pm**

thegreekdog wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:It's amazing how something as abstract as "economy" freaks everyone out.

Yeah, I guess if you'd lost your job in 2009 and haven't found a new job you shouldn't be worried about the economy. What? There are like 24 million people like that? Nevermind then.

For me, the fun thing is how people freaking out about the economy actually makes it worse. It'd be like if wondering if it was going to rain actually made it rain. Or if worrying about the inevitable Red Sox collapse made it more likely that it was going to happen... dammit (I know, you need to actually be playing well. But don't worry, it's gonna happen, regardless)

Posted: **Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:45 pm**

2dimes wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Did you know? Silver is 5 times more rare than Gold.

Yet it's fairly common for regular people to have silver and it's allways less expensive.

So what's the scam making gold so expensive. The only benefit is it does not tarnish. As a commodity it's not particularly usefull. The purpose is to manipulate the public into investing so those controlling the market can shift revenues to themselves.

If they shift the market to place value on something else, gold becomes worthless and the poor are stuck asking other poor people if they would trade some gold for something of value.

The answer would be no.

You are partially right. If you invest in precious metals and hold it in paper form (ETF, stocks, options) then yes those controlling the market can manipulate the revenues. However, if people take physical delivery and make their investment tangible (in their hands, not the bankers), then the people hold the power and those who control the market can do nothing (unless they summons FDR from the grave and confiscate).

If enough people own enough physical metal, then the people control the market.

The Golden Rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules

Posted: **Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:09 am**

If too many people own gold it becomes common. You need food regardless of cost. You desire gold because of it's cost.

I understand the difference between a certificate and physical gold. There might not even be enough physical gold at the place where they claim to be keeping it for you. Further how do you go about exchanging the paper for the gold?

I'm saying that if food becomes scarce enough. You might think your gold is valuable but what are you going to do with it? You can eat it but it will just go right through you.

If who ever sets the price of gold changes it to $2 per ton, (yes I'm aware of how unlikely that is) what is the advantage of having it?

Posted: **Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:27 am**

2dimes wrote:If too many people own gold it becomes common. You need food regardless of cost. You desire gold because of it's cost.

The supply of gold is relatively fixed in the short-run--compared to printing cash money or lending it into existence, so if the number of owners increases (i.e. the demand), then the price of gold will rise. Gold would become more common if the supply of it increased, and if there's no change in demand, then the price of gold would fall.

People desire gold not only because of its price (or expenditure), but also because of its expected benefits. Typically, people purchase gold as an alternative method of savings. For example, some people spend $2000 on a computer, but it's not the price of that computer which brings that desire. It's the benefits of having that computer in exchange of foregoing whatever else you could purchase with $2000 (i.e. opportunity cost).

With gold, people exchange their money for it because they expect to exchange that gold for something else at a later time (i.e. savings). They could invest/save in many other ways, or they could simply sit on their cash (and let depreciation take its toll). So, people desire gold because of what they expect to exchange for gold in the future and because they investing in gold compared to alternative uses of their money. (Of course, people vary in how much they consume and save).

I understand the difference between a certificate and physical gold. There might not even be enough physical gold at the place where they claim to be keeping it for you. Further how do you go about exchanging the paper for the gold?

I'm saying that if food becomes scarce enough. You might think your gold is valuable but what are you going to do with it? You can eat it but it will just go right through you.

If the scenario is that dire, or as it approaches such a crisis, I'd rather have gold than paper cash. In a doomsday scenario, it would be best to have tangible goods and skills which others would find valuable (e.g. canned goods, guns, a car, think: Mad Max). As the doomsday scenario approaches, you'd rather have gold than having paper money--or even gold certificates.

If who ever sets the price of gold changes it to $2 per ton, (yes I'm aware of how unlikely that is) what is the advantage of having it?

The price of gold isn't set by some central planner or conniving elite group, unless they somehow own all the gold, or can force you to sell your gold at such a price (e.g. via coercion).

Posted: **Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:29 am**

Phatscotty wrote:I didn't say Ron Paul was going to pull off a miracle.

Actually, you pretty much did:
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=114468&p=2544309&hilit=miracle+Paul#p2544309

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