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Neglect by medical staff contributed to the death of a hospital patient who died from dehydration after calling 999 because he was so thirsty.

Kane Gorny, 22, from Balham, south London, died at St George's Hospital, in Tooting, in May 2009.

The inquest heard a nurse failed to give him his diabetes medication and police were sent away when they responded to his call.

"A cascade of individual failures" led to his death, the coroner said.

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The day before his death, he was sedated and put in a side room after his condition caused him to be aggressive towards nurses, the inquest heard.

A post-mortem examination found dehydration caused high sodium levels to lead to his death.

BigBallinStalin wrote:Yeah, but the health care costs per capita are relatively low in the UK!

PLAYER57832 wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:Yeah, but the health care costs per capita are relatively low in the UK!

Sorry but these things happen in the US, as well. In fact, here, they are less likely to be discovered because the potential damage from lawsuits is so high things like this too often get covered up.

BigBallinStalin wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:Yeah, but the health care costs per capita are relatively low in the UK!

Sorry but these things happen in the US, as well. In fact, here, they are less likely to be discovered because the potential damage from lawsuits is so high things like this too often get covered up.

I'd love to read a comparative analysis of deaths due to negligence which occur in hospitals. Other variables could include (1) government expenditure in health care, and (2) amount of regulation, e.g. amount of pages of regulatory papers.

Symmetry wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:Yeah, but the health care costs per capita are relatively low in the UK!

Sorry but these things happen in the US, as well. In fact, here, they are less likely to be discovered because the potential damage from lawsuits is so high things like this too often get covered up.

I'd love to read a comparative analysis of deaths due to negligence which occur in hospitals. Other variables could include (1) government expenditure in health care, and (2) amount of regulation, e.g. amount of pages of regulatory papers.

I could give you the WHO report again which contains stats on medically preventable deaths, but I'm not sure you'd like what you were looking at. On point 2, I'm not sure what you're aiming at. Surely the outcome of the regulations are more important than the amount. You're surely not saying that it should be an issue of quantity rather than quality?

BigBallinStalin wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:Yeah, but the health care costs per capita are relatively low in the UK!

Sorry but these things happen in the US, as well. In fact, here, they are less likely to be discovered because the potential damage from lawsuits is so high things like this too often get covered up.

I'd love to read a comparative analysis of deaths due to negligence which occur in hospitals. Other variables could include (1) government expenditure in health care, and (2) amount of regulation, e.g. amount of pages of regulatory papers.

I could give you the WHO report again which contains stats on medically preventable deaths, but I'm not sure you'd like what you were looking at. On point 2, I'm not sure what you're aiming at. Surely the outcome of the regulations are more important than the amount. You're surely not saying that it should be an issue of quantity rather than quality?

If you got a legit WHO link for me, then I'd be inclined to read it.

It would show, if there would be any, variation among countries in regard to regulation. How does the amount of regulation affect health care quality, cover, expenses, etc.?

Symmetry wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:Yeah, but the health care costs per capita are relatively low in the UK!

Sorry but these things happen in the US, as well. In fact, here, they are less likely to be discovered because the potential damage from lawsuits is so high things like this too often get covered up.

I'd love to read a comparative analysis of deaths due to negligence which occur in hospitals. Other variables could include (1) government expenditure in health care, and (2) amount of regulation, e.g. amount of pages of regulatory papers.

I could give you the WHO report again which contains stats on medically preventable deaths, but I'm not sure you'd like what you were looking at. On point 2, I'm not sure what you're aiming at. Surely the outcome of the regulations are more important than the amount. You're surely not saying that it should be an issue of quantity rather than quality?

If you got a legit WHO link for me, then I'd be inclined to read it.

It would show, if there would be any, variation among countries in regard to regulation. How does the amount of regulation affect health care quality, cover, expenses, etc.?

Such a report on regulation does not exist as far as I know, and I have no idea how somebody could even quantify regulation (Pages? Number of words? Number of laws? Number of regulatory bodies?) or assess the quality of regulation (would a smaller amount of poor regulation be better than a larger amount of good regulation?).

But anyway, on the relative outcomes:

http://www.who.int/whr/en/

Plenty of info there, but perhaps not the droids you're looking for.