Conquer Club

Stoicism is one of my top favorites that I try to apply to my daily life, I've also been a fan of Platonism and few key elements ideas in Buddhism that I like as well.

So I ask what is you favorite school of philosophic thought and why to you enjoy it?

hedonism

Chuck Norrism

epicureanism

fuckthapolicism

Disafuckinpointingism, 'cept for haggis who gave a real answer.

Platonism sounds convincing until you read Nietzche. He stomps on Platonism pretty hard.

I would agree with Greece. The Platonic school is very interesting but Aristotle follows in a close second.

Taoism and Buddhism have always appealed to me the most. Shintoism has some plusses, as well.

existentialism:

"existence precedes essence, or something along those lines" - jean paul sartre

"something something something absurdity" - camus


and then whatever school of thought it is that marquis de sade is. i know he considers his characters to be libertines, but i don't know if that means his school of thought is libertarianism... hm... maybe...

"getting fucked in the ass is much more pleasurable than i would have imagined" - sade, in "philosophy in the bedroom"

note, none of the quotes are verbatim

transhumanism

Fastposted: Out of curiosity, what have you read by Sade?

Haggis_McMutton wrote:transhumanism

Fastposted: Out of curiosity, what have you read by Sade?

Only Justine and Philosophy in the Bedroom. I've got "The Complete Marquis de Sade" at home, but I can't bring myself to all of it straight through, it gets kinda repetitive and disgusting, IMO. But eventually I'll read it all.

I just wish more philosophy was written in the form of fiction rather than boring and convoluted essays. The main reason I read philosophy at all is because I had to read No Exit in high school. That's also why I probably lean towards existentialism.

If anyone has recommendations on good philosophy stuff to read though, please post it here, as I'd like to delve further into the mental masturbation that is proving your philosophical point.

whitestazn88 wrote:

Haggis_McMutton wrote:transhumanism

Fastposted: Out of curiosity, what have you read by Sade?

Only Justine and Philosophy in the Bedroom. I've got "The Complete Marquis de Sade" at home, but I can't bring myself to all of it straight through, it gets kinda repetitive and disgusting, IMO. But eventually I'll read it all.

I just wish more philosophy was written in the form of fiction rather than boring and convoluted essays. The main reason I read philosophy at all is because I had to read No Exit in high school. That's also why I probably lean towards existentialism.

If anyone has recommendations on good philosophy stuff to read though, please post it here, as I'd like to delve further into the mental masturbation that is proving your philosophical point.

Hmm, yeah Sade's interesting. I've read 120 days of Sodom and I'm actually kinda sorry he didn't get to finish it. It's part sado-masochistic torture fantasy and part encyclopedia of fetishes(with some philosphy sprinkled in for good measure). It actually made me feel somewhat better about all this shock video stuff we can see nowadays, turns out none of it is new.

I haven't read much philosophy, but Thomas More's Utopia is pretty easy going if you wanna give it a try. I find it interesting that most of the older thinkers usually envision the perfect state as some sort of communist utopia.

Haggis_McMutton wrote:I find it interesting that most of the older thinkers usually envision the perfect state as some sort of communist utopia.

That makes sense to me. From a purely idealistic sense (which is what much of philosophy is about), it is a pretty perfect state. Sadly, it just won't sustain under reality.

Phenomenological Existentialism.

whitestazn88 wrote:existentialism:

"existence precedes essence, or something along those lines" - jean paul sartre

"something something something absurdity" - camus


and then whatever school of thought it is that marquis de sade is. i know he considers his characters to be libertines, but i don't know if that means his school of thought is libertarianism... hm... maybe...

"getting fucked in the ass is much more pleasurable than i would have imagined" - sade, in "philosophy in the bedroom"

note, none of the quotes are verbatim

From what I recall, libertines != libertarians.

Woodruff wrote:

Haggis_McMutton wrote:I find it interesting that most of the older thinkers usually envision the perfect state as some sort of communist utopia.

That makes sense to me. From a purely idealistic sense (which is what much of philosophy is about), it is a pretty perfect state. Sadly, it just won't sustain under reality.

I think that there is the possibility of this type of thing succeeding. We just have yet to have a leader who fits something along the lines of a philosophic king to give a whack at it.

It existed in Paris for a few months until the government of France invaded. It also existed in Ukraine for a while until the Soviets feared the growing power of what was called "The Free Territory." It exists in Chiapas, Mexico today as well.

It is most certainly possible.

I'm sure it's possible for a short while. The more difficult question is wether it can be sustainable without a fundamental shift in the genetic wiring of most people in that state.
You can't just assume you'll have an unending chain of "good philospher kings"

GreecePwns wrote:It existed in Paris for a few months until the government of France invaded. It also existed in Ukraine for a while until the Soviets feared the growing power of what was called "The Free Territory." It exists in Chiapas, Mexico today as well.

It is most certainly possible.

Shortly after the Leninists/Bolsheviks took control of Moscow, they consolidated their power by spreading the Vanguard into the local towns, which were basically anarcho-communist... not quite, but pretty much without a government, i.e. the villages and towns were self-governing.

(See James C Scott's Seeing Like a State. It's in the part about Lenin... to be vague for ya).

Moral intuitionism is another school that I have become interested in recently

Crazyirishman wrote:Moral intuitionism is another school that I have become interested in recently

uh, the morally right thing to do is whatever you feel like doing?

I drink....uh....THINK...therefore I am! Cogito Ergo Sum baby.....

Speaking of Monsieur Descartes....did you hear that one day he was at a restaurant and the waiter asked if he would like pepper on his salad...he replied "No, I think not" and POOF!! He disappeared!!

BA DA BUM

BigBallinStalin wrote:

Crazyirishman wrote:Moral intuitionism is another school that I have become interested in recently

uh, the morally right thing to do is whatever you feel like doing?

Not quite, this is more along the lines of what I was referring to http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_intuitionism#section_1

Or The TLDR oversimplification: there are some things that are morally objective, and that the problem arises with trying to define what the 'good'. Also one of the guys in those school pretty much came up with WWJD but then decided to abandon Christianity because he could not figure what Jesus would do.

Shit Happensism