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Hi everyone, I would like to know what you all think of these videos. I find them pretty convincing.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWLer8aZ8QU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d90NM9t ... re=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLLhB-L ... re=related

Have you found your brain yet?

That hat is convincing.

jonesthecurl wrote:That hat is convincing.

Perhaps I should get one?

Did you watch the full video, or just stop when you saw the hat?

You could discredit them on your own if you were more skeptical. Ron Waytt discredits himself. Everyone but fundamentalists distanced themselves from him. He single-handily claimed to discover, well.... everything. The Ark, Sodom, the Red Sea Crossing, Jesus place of crucifixion, everything.

The coral chariot stuff has never been substantiated and relies on the belief that somehow coral would attach itself on metal and wood and then just sit there for 3000 years without expanding outward like a normal reef or being buried. More like it's similar to staring at clouds until you see a pattern. Even if the wheels were legit, that wouldn't mean there cannot be another explanation, like fraud. Notice they go from 8 to 6 to 4 spoked chariot wheels. These people are not Archeologists.
The pillar is legit; it was removed by the Saudis. But the pillar is no more proof that the Bible is 1,000% correct than the existence of Jerusalem is.

Brainalack wrote:Hi everyone, I would like to know what you all think of these videos. I find them pretty convincing.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWLer8aZ8QU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d90NM9t ... re=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLLhB-L ... re=related

-rd

Sodom seems pretty legit, being that there's a city there that was burned to ash and has chunks of brimstone all through it. 8, 6 and the 4 spoked wheels were used during the time spoken of in the Bible, so it would be stranger if they were not there. One wheel was pulled out and confirmed to be a chariot wheel. I don't know what causes coral to grow or stop growing.

The video says that it was a chariot wheel, but I haven't found anyone in the archeological community who backs that up. The video also doesn't reference anyone who does. And these guys went into the sea to find biblical chariot wheels, so their minds were already made up. Archeologists are taught to keep an open mind and to share what they've got.

Coral collects lime from water and uses it to build a larger base beneath it. That's why you hear it said that coral produce "living reefs" which grow. In 3000 years time one would not expect the coral to just sit idle.

Finding Sodom is one thing. Finding the Sodom of the Bible is another. Ron Waytt's legacy has been absolutely demolished because he didn't do enough science to prove his claims, he just stuck a flag in the ground and went on to discover the next big thing. He wasn't even trained to do this, he just wanted to be the Bible prover guy.

http://www.melfisher.org/mysteryartifact.htm

The coral incrusted object in this article is 400 years old. if you multiplied the growth rate by 8 it would be about as thick as the wheels in the video.

I have yet to see anyone who tries to discredit Ron's findings go were he went and test the findings for themselves. I wish they would, it would make things easier either way.

They have, google his name with "skepticism" or "debunked." Virtually everything he ever said has been refuted. The Red Sea Crossing and his discovery of "the Ark" are favorites of mine. In fact there have been TV specials about debunking his "work." You can go on youtube and watch NatGeo's program about the Ark being debunked.

How do you know it would be as thick as the wheels in the video? I didn't even see a size or measurement comparison in the video. As near as I can see, the growths are natural. Coral has a growth rate of something like 300CM a year, but I don't know how it would grow in a high-traffic area like the Red Sea. Even if they aren't natural, they could be man-made objects from shipwrecks. Those "chariot wheels" could just as easily be valves. The gilded wheel is of particular interest because:

1. it's not buried after thousands of years
2. Egyptians didn't use much metal in chariots
3. Coral grows on gold
4. Ron Wyatt allegedly removed bones from the Red Sea but was too afraid of Saudi Law to chance removing the wheels. And that's interesting again because he was on the Egyptian side of the Sea.
   
5. No Christians have had enough interest to bring it up?
6. The photo is a "recreation"
7. It looks like a valve

Juan_Bottom wrote:

Well, obviously these valves resemble chariot wheels. It doesn't follow that the chariot wheels in question could be valves because valves resemble chariot wheels--and not vice-versa.

BigBallinStalin wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:

Well, obviously these valves resemble chariot wheels. It doesn't follow that the chariot wheels in question could be valves because valves resemble chariot wheels--and not vice-versa.

Could have at least found a valve with the same number of spokes as the one with coral on it.

Furthermore, what was the Pharaoh's army doing at the bottom of the Red Sea?

Scuba diving?

That's ridiculous!

I'll have to bookmark this thread - pure gold!

Lootifer wrote:

patrickaa317 wrote:

Lootifer wrote:

Oh don't praise that Communist. He even picked a red valve FFS! Oh, and yellow too! Which symbolizes a roundabout hammer and sickle.

The chariot wheel in question is not red; therefore, Lootifer and JB are wrong because only chariot wheels resemble valves but not vice-versa.

Besides, the Pharoah's army was scuba diving; therefore, the arguments of the opposition are irrelevant, thus refuted forever!

Nah. They were just letting off steam.

BigBallinStalin wrote:

patrickaa317 wrote:

Lootifer wrote:

Oh don't praise that Communist. He even picked a red valve FFS! Oh, and yellow too! Which symbolizes a roundabout hammer and sickle.

The chariot wheel in question is not red; therefore, Lootifer and JB are wrong because only chariot wheels resemble valves but not vice-versa.

Besides, the Pharoah's army was scuba diving; therefore, the arguments of the opposition are irrelevant, thus refuted forever!

Good point, praise retracted.

On a side note, perhaps someone can scan the chariot wheel for the words "open". I assume you wouldn't ever need to open a chariot wheel. Easiest way to prove or debunk this one.

patrickaa317 wrote:On a side note, perhaps someone can scan the chariot wheel for the words "open". I assume you wouldn't ever need to open a chariot wheel. Easiest way to prove or debunk this one.

The picture is actually a "digital recreation" according to the video.

Interesting, this find. Though, one has to wonder, was there a frog on a log on the coral on the wheel on the bottom of the sea?

-rd

Juan_Bottom wrote:

patrickaa317 wrote:On a side note, perhaps someone can scan the chariot wheel for the words "open". I assume you wouldn't ever need to open a chariot wheel. Easiest way to prove or debunk this one.

The picture is actually a "digital recreation" according to the video.

My comment was intended as a joke.

patrickaa317 wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:

patrickaa317 wrote:On a side note, perhaps someone can scan the chariot wheel for the words "open". I assume you wouldn't ever need to open a chariot wheel. Easiest way to prove or debunk this one.

The picture is actually a "digital recreation" according to the video.

My comment was intended as a joke.

this whole thread is a joke

BigBallinStalin wrote:Furthermore, what was the Pharaoh's army doing at the bottom of the Red Sea?

Scuba diving?

That's ridiculous!

BBS, future-past Pharaoh 2012 CE - 1313 BCE. Stop crying and get logical.


--Andy

AndyDufresne wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:Furthermore, what was the Pharaoh's army doing at the bottom of the Red Sea?

Scuba diving?

That's ridiculous!

BBS, future-past Pharaoh 2012 CE - 1313 BCE. Stop crying and get logical.


--Andy

Don't make me come back there!