rockfist wrote:First of all the number of people of any specific type living or not living in poverty does not justify taking from others - it does not matter. If you are in poverty does it justify your taking all my stuff so you are no longer in poverty - no, not if you believe in private property.
Second, I imagine you oppose the parts you don't agree with; you actually said that in response to someone a year or so ago maybe it was sarcasm, but then its the internet who knows. I never said those things. So that would be dishonest.
Third, I reject your premise of "replenishing funds" for those programs. Instead we need to limit spending.
We're not talking about "taking away from others." Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security cover everyone because everyone pays into them. Your idea of limiting spending is to cut the three most important domestic programs that this country has, outside of law enforcement, education, and transportation. I wouldn't really count those other three in the same suit as the first three. These programs don't need any limits on spending. Americans pay into them, so they deserve their full benefits.
I mean, look at this, you don't even know why they're in trouble, you just want them gone. These programs directly benefit you, so for some unbelievable reason you're trying to tell me that you're working against yourself. I just cannot believe it.
I reject your irrational rejection. Just by doubling the cap we charge billionaires, Social Security would remain safe for the next 75 years. Bernie Sanders has been railing about this for years.
And to your first point, that's cold, selfish, and wrong. Nelson Mandela said "Poverty is not an accident. Like slavery and apartheid, it is man-made and can be removed through the actions of human beings." You're being the problem with your reckless support for apartheid for the poor, that you created. Marie Antoinette didn't care about the problem either, and things didn't work out so well for her. You put all the Gold into the hands of the few and the poor will have nothing to eat but the rich.
Nobody is taking your shit, wtf is up with that? Nobody is talking about taking your shit. Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the Constitution explains why the Federal government has the power of taxation for the general welfare. So you pay, what, like $400 a year to keep Medicaid funded? It's the only one of the three programs that you may never use. But like insurance, it will be there if you need it. And if you don't like Social Security, you can always opt-out.
My point being that crying about being robbed by your government when you pay your few hundred dollars into the safety net is so stupid. It's your safety net too. I could go on and on about why people are poor in this country, around the world, and on reservations, but I know you don't care. Libertarianism is the politic of selfishness.
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You're gonna need to actually quote what I said if you're gonna lob an accusation like that. I remember you saying that you hate coloreds but I haven't added it to my sig yet.