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Senator Al Franken, American Hero, Fighting Citizens United

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:04 pm
by pimpdave
Senator Al Franken, a great American, is standing up against a corrupt system by sponsoring an amendment to the Constitution to allow the PEOPLE to decide the outcomes to elections, not corrupt CORPORATIONS.

Please sign the petition, then send a thank you letter to Senator Al Franken thanking him for his great service and heroism.

http://www.sherrodbrown.com/petition/ov ... united-a2/



OCCUPY!

Re: Senator Al Franken, American Hero, Fighting Citizens Uni

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:22 pm
by rockfist
Comedian Al Franken is an example why we need voter fraud protections in our elections...read the history of how the Democrats cheated to get this asshat elected.

Re: Senator Al Franken, American Hero, Fighting Citizens Uni

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:29 pm
by Night Strike
So he's an American Hero for fighting to remove the First Amendment from the Constitution??

By the way, if you want people to support a Constitutional Amendment, shouldn't you actually provide them with the wording of the amendment and not some vague position petition. By the way, the line " and returning elective power to the actual, human citizens of the United States of America" is quite funny considering it's still actual humans who vote and therefore have the elective power. Sounds like they don't know what is going on.

Re: Senator Al Franken, American Hero, Fighting Citizens Uni

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:31 pm
by pimpdave

Re: Senator Al Franken, American Hero, Fighting Citizens Uni

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:25 pm
by thegreekdog
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/ ... =N00029016

Top 5 contributors:

- Time Warner
- University of Minnesota
- General Electric
- Moveon.org
- Council for a Livable World

Top 5 Industries

- Lawyers/law firms
- Retired
- TV/Movies/Music
- Securities & Investment
- Miscellaneous Business

Re: Senator Al Franken, American Hero, Fighting Citizens Uni

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:58 am
by pimpdave
Not sure what you're trying to say there, thegreekdog, but that doesn't diminish the great work that Senator Al Franken is doing, or change the fact that he shares our Founding Fathers' concerns about letting corporations control the government or condense too much power into the hands of the few (the 1%).

Re: Senator Al Franken, American Hero, Fighting Citizens Uni

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:07 pm
by Night Strike
pimpdave wrote:Not sure what you're trying to say there, thegreekdog, but that doesn't diminish the great work that Senator Al Franken is doing, or change the fact that he shares our Founding Fathers' concerns about letting corporations control the government or condense too much power into the hands of the few (the 1%).


Do you support unions spending unlimited amounts of money in campaigns?

Re: Senator Al Franken, American Hero, Fighting Citizens Uni

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:08 pm
by puppydog85
Right PD,

That is why they set up the Senate to have them not elected by the voter, but by the state governments. See how much they trusted the common voter and loved democracy.

Re: Senator Al Franken, American Hero, Fighting Citizens Uni

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:11 pm
by Night Strike
puppydog85 wrote:Right PD,

That is why they set up the Senate to have them not elected by the voter, but by the state governments. See how much they trusted the common voter and loved democracy.


Sounds like someone doesn't understand why Senators were originally chosen by state legislators.

Re: Senator Al Franken, American Hero, Fighting Citizens Uni

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:52 pm
by thegreekdog
pimpdave wrote:Not sure what you're trying to say there, thegreekdog, but that doesn't diminish the great work that Senator Al Franken is doing, or change the fact that he shares our Founding Fathers' concerns about letting corporations control the government or condense too much power into the hands of the few (the 1%).


I was illustrating how Mr. Franken received his campaign dollars and from whom.

For example, he received campaign money from two large corporations. He also received campaign money from Moveon.org, an entity very similar to, but much larger than, Citizen's United. If you like your American heroes to be hypocrits, have at it.

Re: Senator Al Franken, American Hero, Fighting Citizens Uni

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:16 pm
by rockfist
thegreekdog wrote:http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00029016

Top 5 contributors:

- Time Warner
- University of Minnesota
- General Electric
- Moveon.org
- Council for a Livable World

Top 5 Industries

- Lawyers/law firms
- Retired
- TV/Movies/Music
- Securities & Investment
- Miscellaneous Business


Isn't the University of Minnesota partially publically funded? If so, I would strongly object to a public entity financing a campaign.
That is unethical.

Re: Senator Al Franken, American Hero, Fighting Citizens Uni

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:34 pm
by thegreekdog
rockfist wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00029016

Top 5 contributors:

- Time Warner
- University of Minnesota
- General Electric
- Moveon.org
- Council for a Livable World

Top 5 Industries

- Lawyers/law firms
- Retired
- TV/Movies/Music
- Securities & Investment
- Miscellaneous Business


Isn't the University of Minnesota partially publically funded? If so, I would strongly object to a public entity financing a campaign.
That is unethical.


I thought the same thing; I do not know the answer. They could be like the University of Pennsylvania, which is not funded directly by the state.

Re: Senator Al Franken, American Hero, Fighting Citizens Uni

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:06 pm
by Juan_Bottom
thegreekdog wrote:I was illustrating how Mr. Franken received his campaign dollars and from whom.

For example, he received campaign money from two large corporations. He also received campaign money from Moveon.org, an entity very similar to, but much larger than, Citizen's United. If you like your American heroes to be hypocrits, have at it.


F*ck those corporations, Franken's a genius who's playing the game. If you only elect people who never received donations from corporations then you won't have any federal government, except for maybe terrible rich people like Romney. Because those people can afford it. I have 0 problem with Franken taking their money and using it to fight Citizen's United, even though it could hurt them. If anything I'd like to see this go the distance and really hurt corporation's ability to donate to any campaign.
There's 23 states and the District of Columbia who all called for a Constitutional amendment. More power to us!

Re: Senator Al Franken, American Hero, Fighting Citizens Uni

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:12 pm
by BigBallinStalin
So, how do "we" (whoever that is) get more power from the Constitutional Amendment?

Re: Senator Al Franken, American Hero, Fighting Citizens Uni

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:37 pm
by pimpdave
thegreekdog wrote:He also received campaign money from Moveon.org, an entity very similar to, but much larger than, Citizen's United.


Obfuscation. CU has vastly more money than Moveon.org, which just has more names on a list.

Re: Senator Al Franken, American Hero, Fighting Citizens Uni

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:57 pm
by thegreekdog
pimpdave wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:He also received campaign money from Moveon.org, an entity very similar to, but much larger than, Citizen's United.


Obfuscation. CU has vastly more money than Moveon.org, which just has more names on a list.


Whatever helps you sleep better at night in your Moveon.org sheets provided by Walmart, a contributor to Moveon.org.

Re: Senator Al Franken, American Hero, Fighting Citizens Uni

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:02 pm
by pimpdave
Empire Strikes Back sheets.

Re: Senator Al Franken, American Hero, Fighting Citizens Uni

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:05 pm
by thegreekdog
pimpdave wrote:Empire Strikes Back sheets.


YOU DIDN'T KEEP THEM IN THE ORIGINAL PACKAGE?!?!?!

What the marx is wrong with you?