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Posted: **Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:54 pm**

If guns kill people than pencils misspell words and forks make people fat.

Posted: **Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:04 pm**

GutTruck wrote:If guns kill people than pencils misspell words and forks make people fat.

If guns kill people, then keyboards make typos.

Posted: **Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:07 pm**

kentington wrote:
GutTruck wrote:If guns kill people than pencils misspell words and forks make people fat.

If guns kill people, then keyboards make typos.

Maybe he meaned that if guns kills more peoples than pencils... no wait, your write.

Posted: **Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:29 pm**

Posted: **Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:34 pm**

KoolBak wrote:

Posted: **Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:47 pm**

We don't need Gun Control. We need People Control.

All in favor, raise your right hand.

Posted: **Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:27 pm**

Guns don't kill people. Crazy maniacs with guns do.

Posted: **Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:28 pm**

I don't know, man. Last time I talked to a gun he shot off some pretty good reasons to cap someone.

I think he had murderous intent.

-rd

Posted: **Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:58 am**

aad0906 wrote:Guns don't kill people. Crazy maniacs with guns do.

Actually, I prefer my Gerber camp hatchet....or maybe my Louisville Slugger.....and you just can't go wrong with a nice Estwing straight claw hammer

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Posted: **Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:11 am**

if we want to ban guns then we may as well ban shampoo, because you can drown people in shampoo if you use enough and you hold them face down in it.

Posted: **Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:16 am**

KoolBak wrote:
aad0906 wrote:Guns don't kill people. Crazy maniacs with guns do.

Actually, I prefer my Gerber camp hatchet....or maybe my Louisville Slugger.....and you just can't go wrong with a nice Estwing straight claw hammer

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LMAO. I've worked construction for a good part of my life, and I've always believed the Estwing steel framer is one of the best close quarters weapons ever made. I've got one in my truck right now. :lol:

Posted: **Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:24 pm**

Borderdawg wrote:
KoolBak wrote:
aad0906 wrote:Guns don't kill people. Crazy maniacs with guns do.

Actually, I prefer my Gerber camp hatchet....or maybe my Louisville Slugger.....and you just can't go wrong with a nice Estwing straight claw hammer

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LMAO. I've worked construction for a good part of my life, and I've always believed the Estwing steel framer is one of the best close quarters weapons ever made. I've got one in my truck right now.

I dunno...that gerber hatchet is really nice.

Posted: **Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:43 pm**

GutTruck wrote:If guns kill people than pencils misspell words and forks make people fat.

Then pencil manufacturers are designing pencils to more efficiently mispell words, and fork manufacturers are lobbying for looser controls so that responsible fork owners can use their forks to stop fat people from eating.

If only someone else had been around with a fork, is the cry so often heard after a gut busting super large order of fries caused another heart attack. Maybe then the responisble fork owner, who only uses it in self defense, and solely to protect himself and others from consuming fatty products with their own forks, could have prevented the death. Perhaps everyone should carry a fork?

I'm not suggesting open fork carrying. There would be widespread fear in every McDonalds, where of course forks are not widely used, that some fork carrying vigilante would intervene, perhaps misunderstanding the situation.

They might even have a prior history of excessive forks, and over-react.

Most troubling, of course, is the sale of pitchforks. Essentially forks that are designed to help produce food (of course, I know that pitchforks are occasionally used for recreational purposes- say common gardening).

Pitchforks, of course, have a troubling history. As a common part of a lynch mob, or penultimate scene of a Hammer Horror picture, we know that pitch forks are mainly used to persecute individuals that society deems to be monsters.

Luckily, nowadays, such people have access to semi-automatic weapons, designed to kill people, which they have purchased to kill people.

So, what's your opinion on the casual purchase of infectious diseases? Or plutonium?

Posted: **Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:51 pm**

GutTruck wrote:If guns kill people than pencils misspell words and forks make people fat.

Regardless of one's opinion on gun control, this is an unhelpful strawman and you're not doing yourself any favors by attacking it. Nobody thinks that guns are secretly sentient murder weapons that leap from nightstands and cabinets while their owners sleep, prowling the streets for victims.

It is obvious to people on both sides of the issue that humans wielding guns are the problem; gun control advocates suggest that by limiting the number of available guns, we can limit the number of gun-related injuries and deaths.

Posted: **Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:58 pm**

If they want my Y. pestis, they'll have to pry it from my swollen, pus-filled lymph nodes.

Posted: **Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:03 pm**

Neato Missile wrote:
GutTruck wrote:If guns kill people than pencils misspell words and forks make people fat.

Regardless of one's opinion on gun control, this is an unhelpful strawman and you're not doing yourself any favors by attacking it. Nobody thinks that guns are secretly sentient murder weapons that leap from nightstands and cabinets while their owners sleep, prowling the streets for victims.

It is obvious to people on both sides of the issue that humans wielding guns are the problem; gun control advocates suggest that by limiting the number of available guns, we can limit the number of gun-related injuries and deaths.

To be fair, I think you're also simplifying the debate a bit with this into guns vs limit available guns. Type of gun is also part of the problem, as is who can purchase guns, and ammo, and in what type and quantity.

Limiting the number does very little.

I get your general point, but gun control advocates aren't necessarily opposed to limiting numbers, especially in the US, but they often argue for restrictions on type, who should own them, and what types of businesses should be allowed to sell them.

I can't give you the links on this, but I recently read a few articles on the subject after the last few mass shootings. The gist of one article was that most Americans oppose gun control, but also that most Americans oppose the loophole that allows gun shows to sell freely.

My take on this was that most the phrase "gun control" has become so politicised that many people who are in favour of some form of control, say that they're against it when they hear the phrase.

Posted: **Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:46 pm**

That's a good point, Symmetry. I don't have much experience with guns, and don't consider myself familiar enough with the issue to form an opinion beyond "I am unhappy about gun violence." It just frustrates me to see the "toasters don't toast bread, people who want breakfast do: ban breakfast!" line of attack levied in lieu of more substantive arguments against gun control.

Posted: **Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:02 am**

Neoteny wrote:If they want my Y. pestis, they'll have to pry it from my swollen, pus-filled lymph nodes.

Where's the like button?

Posted: **Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:09 am**

heavycola wrote:
Neoteny wrote:If they want my Y. pestis, they'll have to pry it from my swollen, pus-filled lymph nodes.

Where's the like button?

Neoteny likes this.

Posted: **Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:19 am**

I had to look up Y. Pestis....lol. And I've already had one lymph node extracted.....guess I'm screwed!

Posted: **Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:40 am**

KoolBak wrote:I had to look up Y. Pestis....lol. And I've already had one lymph node extracted.....guess I'm screwed!

Look on the bright side, it's one less possible bubo!

Posted: **Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:55 pm**

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