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[tzor]

Emancipation?

Sorry, not only was it not Progressive it took place decades before the basic ideas of progressivism entered the Federal Government (1890's see Progressive Era). Lincoln was many things, but he was not a progressive.

[tzor]

Progressives are statists?

Fascinating. Your lack of logic fascinates me Spock, I mean Woodruff.

Statism (French: étatisme) is a term used by political scientists to describe the belief that a government should control either economic or social policy or both to some degree.

Progressivism is a general political philosophy advocating or favoring social, political, and economic reform.

So progressivism is the "goal" and statism the means to that goal.

[tzor]

What the f*ck is going on with Republicans and rape? Have they all lost their fucking minds?

It is quite possible. It could also be media bias. I mean it wasn't as though Chris Matthews actually suggested on the air that Bill Clinton was so smart that if he wound up on Mars he would find a way to have sex with the martian women and produce little Martian Clintons.

And we are not the party whose members go around dressed in external female genitalia using the name for their internal female genitalia.

In this climate even a rational mention of the "just war theory" could be twisted into something evil and insane.

[Woodruff]

His "explanation" really isn't helping him any:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/state-legislator-criticized-for-comments-on-rape-hj76f4k-173587961.html

What the f*ck is going on with Republicans and rape? Have they all lost their fucking minds?

Sounds like perfectly rationale explanation and advise. It can be easy to claim rape if a person decides they regret having consensual sex (or want money, etc.).

Not making a comment like that would have been the smart thing NS. God forbid you should have a daughter and she gets raped. I don't think your words above would be your best response.

Isn't it amazing how rape has become a political tool for the Democrats?

Isn't it amazing how the Republicans seem to hate women?

So opposing abortion and opposing the government handing out birth control means Republicans hate women?

Was it your intention to throw out an irrelevant statement in order to distract from your own stupid statement, or was it just your stupid statements in action again?

His "explanation" really isn't helping him any:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/state-legislator-criticized-for-comments-on-rape-hj76f4k-173587961.html

What the f*ck is going on with Republicans and rape? Have they all lost their fucking minds?

Sounds like perfectly rationale explanation and advise. It can be easy to claim rape if a person decides they regret having consensual sex (or want money, etc.).

Oh my God. Seriously, night strike. You believe that's a perfectly rational statement to make? As someone who purports to be a Christian, you REALLY need to re-think your perspective.

Having sex outside of marriage can lead to all sorts of issues, including someone having consensual sex and then later claiming it wasn't consensual. That's simply reality and has nothing to do with me being a Christian.

But making hateful statements seems to be more and more of a Christian thing. Well, purported Christians like you who don't actually appear to want to follow the things that Jesus said, I guess.

I'm sorry those words are just figments in your imaginary world Juan. In the real world, those words actually have meaning and consequences.

That must be why the recent tax cuts for businesses have created so many jobs then, right? That's why we're just swimming in employment?

You mean the business tax cuts that have been offset by increased regulations, Obamacare, Dodd-Frank, and constant rhetoric of raising taxes on any person or small business that makes over $200,000? Yep, lots of jobs are going to be created when all that big-government is bearing down.

You're so full of excuses it's amazing you ever give anything that's not an excuse. Now that I think on it, you might not.

[Woodruff]

What the f*ck is going on with Republicans and rape? Have they all lost their fucking minds?

It is quite possible. It could also be media bias.

The media forces Republicans to say things that are hateful to women?

In this climate even a rational mention of the "just war theory" could be twisted into something evil and insane.

Except that we have the actual, hateful statements available to us. They're not being twisted, except by the hateful Republicans like yourself who are trying to justify those hateful statements in the name of political clout.

[Juan_Bottom]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/2 ... 34414.html

[Phatscotty]

[Woodruff]

Says the guy voting for Mitt Romney. You're just as guilty of "costing freedom" as anyone voting for Obama, Phatscotty.

[Juan_Bottom]

I wish my moderate Republican friends would simply be honest. They all say they’re voting for Romney because of his economic policies (tenuous and ill-formed as they are), and that they disagree with him on gay rights. Fine. Then look me in the eye, speak with a level clear voice, and say, “My taxes and take-home pay mean more than your fundamental civil rights, the sanctity of your marriage, your right to visit an ailing spouse in the hospital, your dignity as a citizen of this country, your healthcare, your right to inherit, the mental welfare and emotional well-being of your youth, and your very personhood.”

It’s like voting for George Wallace during the Civil Rights movements, and apologizing for his racism. You’re still complicit. You’re still perpetuating anti-gay legislation and cultural homophobia. You don’t get to walk away clean, because you say you “disagree” with your candidate on these issues.

"Rarely do we find men who willingly engage in hard, solid thinking. There is an almost universal quest for easy answers and half-baked solutions. Nothing pains some people more than having to think." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

[Woodruff]

Really?:
http://www.salon.com/2012/09/10/15_percent_of_ohio_gopers_credit_romney_with_bin_ladens_death/

[Woodruff]

http://www.newshounds.us/20121029_mike_huckabee_campaigns_for_todd_akin

[Night Strike]

http://www.newshounds.us/20121029_mike_huckabee_campaigns_for_todd_akin

He's been campaigning for Akin several times.

[Woodruff]

http://www.newshounds.us/20121029_mike_huckabee_campaigns_for_todd_akin

He's been campaigning for Akin several times.

That doesn't really change the point of the article, does it?

[patrickaa317]

http://www.newshounds.us/20121029_mike_huckabee_campaigns_for_todd_akin

He's been campaigning for Akin several times.

That doesn't really change the point of the article, does it?

I bet Huckabee would get a thrill up his leg if Akin won.

[2dimes]

No one would give up their freedom for a cell phone.
































































































Now a smart phone on the other hand.

[tzor]

Except that we have the actual, hateful statements available to us. They're not being twisted, except by the hateful Republicans like yourself who are trying to justify those hateful statements in the name of political clout.

We have statements; whether they are "hateful" or not is a matter of opinion and bias.

We also have statements from Democrats; here too whether they are "hateful" or not lies in the eye of the beholder.

That's a D&D monster, in case you forgotten.

The "Eyes" have it.

The "Eyes" of Texas is upon you.

There is no "I" in Texas, silly.

[Phatscotty]

No one would give up their freedom for a cell phone.

you need to get out more

Now a smart phone on the other hand.

better....

[Woodruff]

Except that we have the actual, hateful statements available to us. They're not being twisted, except by the hateful Republicans like yourself who are trying to justify those hateful statements in the name of political clout.

We have statements; whether they are "hateful" or not is a matter of opinion and bias.

We also have statements from Democrats; here too whether they are "hateful" or not lies in the eye of the beholder.

That's a D&D monster, in case you forgotten.

The "Eyes" have it.

The "Eyes" of Texas is upon you.

There is no "I" in Texas, silly.

You need to take tap dancing lessons, because you did a really shitty job of it there.

[tzor]

You need to take tap dancing lessons, because you did a really shitty job of it there.

But that's DISCO ... that's why it's shitty.

Look, see, feet aren't moving and I point up every other measure.

It may not be great but at least I'm "staying alive."

[2dimes]

I laughed pretty hard at the Obamaphone lady.

[Woodruff]

You need to take tap dancing lessons, because you did a really shitty job of it there.

But that's DISCO ... that's why it's shitty.

Look, see, feet aren't moving and I point up every other measure.

It may not be great but at least I'm "staying alive."

God Damn You for reminding me how old I am. <laughing>

[pmchugh]

The Democratic party.

[Juan_Bottom]

Bodenweiser, indicted on sex charges, makes bail

Bodenweiser defeated incumbent Republican Sen. Joe Booth in the September primary to become the GOP nominee for the 19th Senate District on the strength of social conservative support, and quickly got a heartfelt endorsement from former U.S. Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell.

In a video posted by the Sussex Countian from the night she appeared at a fundraiser for Bodenweiser, O’Donnell called him a “great man that deserves our support and that we need to send to Dover. Eric has the kind of character that will stand up against corruption, that will do what is right in the face of opposition, in the face of pressure.”

[Nobunaga]

... George Will writing about entitlements, with some surprising facts (to me, anyway).

... Applies to this thread - give it a read. It's brief.

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/w ... JMY5MXom7g

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[Woodruff]

... George Will writing about entitlements, with some surprising facts (to me, anyway).
... Applies to this thread - give it a read. It's brief.
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/w ... JMY5MXom7g

While I don't necessarily agree with some of the conclusions that were drawn here, it is a good article. And I will say that I have always had a tremendous amount of respect for George Will. He IS one of the good ones.