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[Juan_Bottom]

But they voted 31 times to repeal Obamacare.

[Phatscotty]

They blocked everything Obama tried to screw up. That's exactly what America sent them to Washington to do in 2010.

Just because something is called "the jobs bill" does not mean its about jobs or make it a good bill or mean it will work, or mean that you can criticize someone for blocking it.

[BigBallinStalin]

The answer to this very serious question can be represented best in this short 8 minute video clip

::lights dim::

Haha, that was entertaining.

Some quibbles come to mind, but that video represents the Ideal Republican Party. Through the US political system, I still see similar outcomes from both Democrats and Republicans on the role of government and its discretion over the economic-decision making of the citizens.

It does remind me of the backflips socialism and its adherent have gone through in order to continually remove themselves from the failed socialist experiments. It may not be possible, but I wonder how many socialists--including those of the non-state/somehow minimal-state type--viewed the Soviet Union and fascists in a positive light before the years leading up to WW2.


EDITS: In Intellectuals and Society by Thomas Sowell, he has some great and embarrassing quotes by such people during the 1930s. I'd recommend you read it. And, it reads very easily too!

[Night Strike]

again with the fucking love of partisanship.

when will any of you morons realize political party means as much as the turd I just dropped ever so gracefully from my balloon knot?

You missed the point. When you look back at American History, every great idea or change came from Liberals. Conservatism means never change. You're always going to identify with one group better than the other.

You're assuming "change" is always good and should always be desired.

In today's political reality, I would contend that the only change being proposed is from within the Republican party via Tea Party conservatives as they're the only ones calling for a change in real fiscal policies and deficit spending.

[tzor]

Might as well throw this out to make someone happy. A Letter from Morton Blackwell to RNC Delegates

If the Rules Committee Report were to pass without adoption of the Minority Reports, it would amount to a power grab by Washington, D.C. party insiders and consultants designed to silence the voice of state party activists and Republican grassroots by:

*** Handing national party officials the power to change national party rules adopted by state and grassroots leaders at the Republican National Convention. For generations, the prohibition of manipulated changes in the national Rules of the Republican Party between national conventions has served as one of the crown jewels of our party. It’s a power grab which opens the door to many future power grabs.

*** Stripping state parties in all states with binding primaries of the power of choosing who will represent their states as national delegates and alternate delegates.

This outrageous change would empower presidential campaigns to disapprove and remove delegates and alternate delegates selected by rules adopted by state Republican parties. Rather than grassroots activists who won delegate and alternate delegate slots by following state party rules, a large majority of positions would be handed to top donors of the winning campaign.

*** Gutting the great and successful reform adopted in the current election cycle to stop the dangerous trend to front-load the selection of national convention delegates. Our party would move again toward a national primary which would deny grassroots Republicans the opportunity to vet presidential candidates in a nomination contest of reasonable length. This reform must not be abandoned.

[Juan_Bottom]

Does anyone else think it's funny that the RNC is being held in a Hurricane-prone area during Hurricane season?
YOU CANT TRUST PEOPLE LIKE THIS TO PLAN FOR AMERICA.

[Night Strike]

Does anyone else think it's funny that the RNC is being held in a Hurricane-prone area during Hurricane season?
YOU CANT TRUST PEOPLE LIKE THIS TO PLAN FOR AMERICA.

Because Charlotte, North Carolina is never hit by hurricanes?

[john9blue]

A miserable pile of tax cuts.

the thread ended after this post.

[patrickaa317]

Does anyone else think it's funny that the RNC is being held in a Hurricane-prone area during Hurricane season?
YOU CANT TRUST PEOPLE LIKE THIS TO PLAN FOR AMERICA.

Note to everyone:

DO NOT ELECT Reince Priebus or Sharon Day to run this country!

[tzor]

Does anyone else think it's funny that the RNC is being held in a Hurricane-prone area during Hurricane season?

You realize that this is basically the entire southern coast and east coasts. The North East is really due for a major one to make landfall there.

That leaves the tornado belt, the earthquake belt and I suppose Chicago, the corruption belt.

And if you noticed, the hurricane missed the convention. That is also the way of hurricanes. They are strange and unpredictable, sort of like Biden.

[thegreekdog]

Does anyone else think it's funny that the RNC is being held in a Hurricane-prone area during Hurricane season?

You realize that this is basically the entire southern coast and east coasts. The North East is really due for a major one to make landfall there.

That leaves the tornado belt, the earthquake belt and I suppose Chicago, the corruption belt.

And if you noticed, the hurricane missed the convention. That is also the way of hurricanes. They are strange and unpredictable, sort of like Biden.

Isn't North Carolina also a hurricane-prone area?

[Juan_Bottom]

It's different though.

[john9blue]

was that a hockey reference?

[rdsrds2120]

was that a hockey reference?

Puck if I know.

-rd

[john9blue]

was that a hockey reference?

Puck if I know.

-rd

icy what you did there.

[Juan_Bottom]

[Phatscotty]

Wow JB. I might have to take a break from viewing your posts for a while. They make my head hurt, and all your posts look the same.

But seeing how you like pictures so much, here is one for you, and this one is actually a fact.

[BigBallinStalin]

Wow JB. I might have to take a break from viewing your posts for a while. They make my head hurt, and all your posts look the same.

But seeing how you like pictures so much, here is one for you, and this one is actually a fact.

How dare you insult Lenin like that!

[Woodruff]

Wow JB. I might have to take a break from viewing your posts for a while. They make my head hurt, and all your posts look the same.

But seeing how you like pictures so much, here is one for you, and this one is actually a fact.

In Phatscotty's world, that constitutes "a fact", by his own statement. That's all you need to know about him, right there.

[Juan_Bottom]

Romney: U.S. economy ‘getting better’ under Obama

INGRAHAM: You’ve also noted that there are signs of improvement on the horizon in the economy. How do you answer the president’s argument that the economy is getting better in a general election campaign if you yourself are saying it’s getting better?

ROMNEY: Well, of course it’s getting better. The economy always gets better after a recession, there is always a recovery. […]

INGRAHAM: Isn’t it a hard argument to make if you’re saying, like, OK, he inherited this recession, he took a bunch of steps to try to turn the economy around, and now, we’re seeing more jobs, but vote against him anyway? Isn’t that a hard argument to make? Is that a stark enough contrast?

ROMNEY: Have you got a better one, Laura? It just happens to be the truth.

This is the kind of truth PS must be talking about?



“More jobs were created in the private sector last year alone than in all eight years of George W. Bush”

[Juan_Bottom]

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/
42% of the time, Mitt Romney gets his facts wrong

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/
27% of the time, Barack Obama gets his facts wrong


Obama - the honest candidate

[Woodruff]

Romney: U.S. economy ‘getting better’ under Obama

INGRAHAM: You’ve also noted that there are signs of improvement on the horizon in the economy. How do you answer the president’s argument that the economy is getting better in a general election campaign if you yourself are saying it’s getting better?

ROMNEY: Well, of course it’s getting better. The economy always gets better after a recession, there is always a recovery. […]

INGRAHAM: Isn’t it a hard argument to make if you’re saying, like, OK, he inherited this recession, he took a bunch of steps to try to turn the economy around, and now, we’re seeing more jobs, but vote against him anyway? Isn’t that a hard argument to make? Is that a stark enough contrast?

ROMNEY: Have you got a better one, Laura? It just happens to be the truth.

This is the kind of truth PS must be talking about?

I don't know, but if Romney actually answered that way, he gained some credit from me.

[Juan_Bottom]

Yeah he did, I checked. If you follow the link within' the link, you're sent to a video from the Rachel Maddow show.
She plays the interview during that show. For whatever reason, I'm still listening to her old shows now.

[Juan_Bottom]

"1,000 years of darkness" if Obama-re-elected.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/09/03 ... ted-video/

[Juan_Bottom]

Study: Conservatives More Likely To Make Up Facts In Order to Justify Their Beliefs