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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:08 pm

50 People Show-Up to Obama Rally in Ohio Today
According to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, ā€œFewer than 200 people showed up to watch [Stevie]Wonder perform a handful of his hits at the early voting event in support of President Barack Obama.ā€ The Washington Post reports that the crowd was only 50. Even though there was a shuttle bus standing by, Steve Wonderā€™s performance reportedly did not motivate anyone in attendance to actually head to the polls, however, although apparently many of them had already early voted.
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/386647/stevie- ... Zc5bjqi.99


Some people on Twitter have posted pics of Mitch Obama hoisting ol' Stevie up on stage; 'atta girl! I like the Secret Service agents in the front who are like "meh, she looks like she's got it. *shrug*"

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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:09 pm

saxitoxin wrote:50 People Show-Up to Obama Rally in Ohio Today


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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby stahrgazer on Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:31 am

john9blue wrote:yes. they could go horribly wrong. but i like trying new things, and if romney gets elected it will be the republican party's chance to prove everything they've been saying the last 4 years, or fail trying.


How silly, considering what they've been saying the last 4 years is what they kept saying - and doing - during Bush's 8 years that led us into the crisis we've been facing and Obama's been slowly reversing, these past 4 years.
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby stahrgazer on Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:46 am

Phatscotty wrote:For me, it's as simple as drawing the line when the Executive branch so thoroughly and frequently abuses their power and ignores Congress. Obama does not respect our principle of checks and balances. Obama has to go, and that is how I am using my vote.


For me, it's as simple as, Congress has become like the Lords of England that our Revolutionary forefathers fought against, which is something Obama recognizes and so he must stay in office.

Did you realize a congressman (woman) can commit crimes against his (her) office, be jailed and stripped of the office for those crimes, yet will still receive congressional pension?

Did you hear of congress suggesting a bill to give back some of the 10x raise they gave themselves during the good years, or reducing the public's costs for their supreme platinum medical care plans or pensions?

Did you hear that the Republican leadership's FIRST priority was NOT to uphold his oath by passing what's right for the people who voted him in, but instead, his FIRST priority was to ensure Obama would not get re-elected?

Don't you remember that Republicans in congress did not want ANY part of any of the medical insurance changes that came about with Obamacare? I realize not all of the plan is popular, but back then, Republicans didn't even want to vote to ensure no one got denied future insurance based on pre-existing conditions; or reduce the extreme percentages many insurers charged for administrative fees for insurance including Medicare and Medicaid (which is where many of the so-called "cuts" to Medicare and Medicaid come from in "Obamacare" - they are not "cuts" to CARE at all! Nope, they wouldn't even vote for the parts that just about every American (except perhaps insurance company execs) believe are the best parts of the Affordable Care act (including Romney).

And did you realize that most of the "plans" for everything that Romney is spouting now - which gained him a great boost in popularity - most of these popular Romney plans ARE OBAMA'S IDEAS!!!

So it's OKAY with you that, to make one guy fail, Republicans stalled and harmed the populace just so that they could wait to incorporate the same ideas once it's "their guy" in office?

That's an effective system of checks and balances to you?

For shame.
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby john9blue on Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:31 am

stahrgazer wrote:
john9blue wrote:yes. they could go horribly wrong. but i like trying new things, and if romney gets elected it will be the republican party's chance to prove everything they've been saying the last 4 years, or fail trying.


How silly, considering what they've been saying the last 4 years is what they kept saying - and doing - during Bush's 8 years that led us into the crisis we've been facing and Obama's been slowly reversing, these past 4 years.


that was mostly before the tea party movement
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:43 am

stahrgazer wrote:
john9blue wrote:yes. they could go horribly wrong. but i like trying new things, and if romney gets elected it will be the republican party's chance to prove everything they've been saying the last 4 years, or fail trying.


How silly, considering what they've been saying the last 4 years is what they kept saying - and doing - during Bush's 8 years that led us into the crisis we've been facing and Obama's been slowly reversing, these past 4 years.


What did Bush do again? specifically? Was there anything in his last 2 years, like a Democrat majority in Congress, that might have a little bit of responsibility for what happened?
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:48 am

stahrgazer wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:For me, it's as simple as drawing the line when the Executive branch so thoroughly and frequently abuses their power and ignores Congress. Obama does not respect our principle of checks and balances. Obama has to go, and that is how I am using my vote.


For me, it's as simple as, Congress has become like the Lords of England that our Revolutionary forefathers fought against, which is something Obama recognizes and so he must stay in office.


which proves an earlier point. Obama hates our founding principles, and think it's his job to "fix" our traditions, "redefine" our heritage, "change" our history, "radically transform" our country.

......."Ya see, there is no need to respect our system of checks and balances anymore, because obviously our system of checks and balances is as evil as the tyrannical Lords of England, which Obama is fighting against as the hero, in the name of reverse equality, reverse racism, and negative-Liberty"

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Barack Obama has to change our history. The progressives spent 100 years changing it demonizing our founding fathers.
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:10 am

Reason's editorial staff have released who they will be voting for on Tuesday -

Gary Johnson - 17
Refuse to Vote - 9
Won't Disclose - 1
Mitt Romney - 0
Barack Obama - 0
Jill Stein - 0
Virgil Goode - 0
Rocky Anderson - 0

http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/24/w ... singlepage
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby Frigidus on Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:21 am

Phatscotty wrote:
stahrgazer wrote:
john9blue wrote:yes. they could go horribly wrong. but i like trying new things, and if romney gets elected it will be the republican party's chance to prove everything they've been saying the last 4 years, or fail trying.


How silly, considering what they've been saying the last 4 years is what they kept saying - and doing - during Bush's 8 years that led us into the crisis we've been facing and Obama's been slowly reversing, these past 4 years.


What did Bush do again? specifically? Was there anything in his last 2 years, like a Democrat majority in Congress, that might have a little bit of responsibility for what happened?


Anybody that thinks either party was anything less than complicit in creating the situation we are currently in is deluding themselves.
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby Phatscotty on Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:07 pm

Frigidus wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
stahrgazer wrote:
john9blue wrote:yes. they could go horribly wrong. but i like trying new things, and if romney gets elected it will be the republican party's chance to prove everything they've been saying the last 4 years, or fail trying.


How silly, considering what they've been saying the last 4 years is what they kept saying - and doing - during Bush's 8 years that led us into the crisis we've been facing and Obama's been slowly reversing, these past 4 years.


What did Bush do again? specifically? Was there anything in his last 2 years, like a Democrat majority in Congress, that might have a little bit of responsibility for what happened?


Anybody that thinks either party was anything less than complicit in creating the situation we are currently in is deluding themselves.


but all anybody is really saying is they are not exactly the same, and that one is better. Guess who is hogging all the delusion juice? :P
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:19 pm

saxitoxin wrote:Reason's editorial staff have released who they will be voting for on Tuesday -

Gary Johnson - 17
Refuse to Vote - 9
Won't Disclose - 1
Mitt Romney - 0
Barack Obama - 0
Jill Stein - 0
Virgil Goode - 0
Rocky Anderson - 0

http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/24/w ... singlepage


This should be required reading for CCers engaged in the US political discussion.
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby notyou2 on Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:58 pm

If I was an American, I would be voting for Gary Johnson. I heard him in an interview on CBC radio and I really liked his policies and platform.
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby Symmetry on Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:05 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Reason's editorial staff have released who they will be voting for on Tuesday -

Gary Johnson - 17
Refuse to Vote - 9
Won't Disclose - 1
Mitt Romney - 0
Barack Obama - 0
Jill Stein - 0
Virgil Goode - 0
Rocky Anderson - 0

http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/24/w ... singlepage


This should be required reading for CCers engaged in the US political discussion.


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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:12 pm

Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Reason's editorial staff have released who they will be voting for on Tuesday -

Gary Johnson - 17
Refuse to Vote - 9
Won't Disclose - 1
Mitt Romney - 0
Barack Obama - 0
Jill Stein - 0
Virgil Goode - 0
Rocky Anderson - 0

http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/24/w ... singlepage


This should be required reading for CCers engaged in the US political discussion.


Crazy libertarian website votes libertarian, what a shock.


LMAO

Reason is a 50 year old print magazine named the #21 best publication in the U.S. by the Chicago Tribune and that is widely read and cited by thought leaders from both major parties.

    Saxi: "So I was reading in The New Yorker ..."
    Symm: "That crazy local gossip rag with the restaurant reviews?"

Your anti-intellectualism is becoming increasingly frantic/hysterical.
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby nietzsche on Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:16 pm

I heard today in the radio that the G20 was worried about the US deficit, and they mentioned that due the lack of agreement between democrats and republicans the supreme court could decide in an emergency plan? How can this news from the G-20 can impact the election?

I ask it here because I don't know much about it, don't want to start a thread without much facts.
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby Symmetry on Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:18 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Reason's editorial staff have released who they will be voting for on Tuesday -

Gary Johnson - 17
Refuse to Vote - 9
Won't Disclose - 1
Mitt Romney - 0
Barack Obama - 0
Jill Stein - 0
Virgil Goode - 0
Rocky Anderson - 0

http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/24/w ... singlepage


This should be required reading for CCers engaged in the US political discussion.


Crazy libertarian website votes libertarian, what a shock.


LMAO

Reason is a 50 year old print magazine named the #21 best publication in the U.S. by the Chicago Tribune and that is widely read and cited by thought leaders from both major parties.

    Saxi: "So I was reading in The New Yorker ..."
    Symm: "That crazy local gossip rag with the restaurant reviews?"

Your anti-intellectualism is becoming increasingly frantic/hysterical.


I was going to go with the editor and former editor writing a book together, called
The Declaration of Independents: How Libertarian Politics Can Fix What's Wrong with America

But I wouldn't want to make them seem partisan, so I won't mention it.
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:31 pm

nietzsche wrote:I heard today in the radio that the G20 was worried about the US deficit, and they mentioned that due the lack of agreement between democrats and republicans the supreme court could decide in an emergency plan? How can this news from the G-20 can impact the election?

I ask it here because I don't know much about it, don't want to start a thread without much facts.


This news will hardly affect the election because Americans in general are already aware of the US deficit problem.

That's interesting speculation about the Supreme Court... could you divulge more details about that?
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:00 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
nietzsche wrote:I heard today in the radio that the G20 was worried about the US deficit, and they mentioned that due the lack of agreement between democrats and republicans the supreme court could decide in an emergency plan? How can this news from the G-20 can impact the election?

I ask it here because I don't know much about it, don't want to start a thread without much facts.


This news will hardly affect the election because Americans in general are already aware of the US deficit problem.

That's interesting speculation about the Supreme Court... could you divulge more details about that?


Yeah, that's really weird. For some reason I'm reminded of Tom Clancy and The Sum of All Fears.
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:03 pm

Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Reason's editorial staff have released who they will be voting for on Tuesday -

Gary Johnson - 17
Refuse to Vote - 9
Won't Disclose - 1
Mitt Romney - 0
Barack Obama - 0
Jill Stein - 0
Virgil Goode - 0
Rocky Anderson - 0

http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/24/w ... singlepage


This should be required reading for CCers engaged in the US political discussion.


Crazy libertarian website votes libertarian, what a shock.


You're quite the Repocrat these days Symm. It's sad that you have to cling to establishment politics. Perhaps if you could think outside the box a little...
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby Symmetry on Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:06 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Reason's editorial staff have released who they will be voting for on Tuesday -

Gary Johnson - 17
Refuse to Vote - 9
Won't Disclose - 1
Mitt Romney - 0
Barack Obama - 0
Jill Stein - 0
Virgil Goode - 0
Rocky Anderson - 0

http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/24/w ... singlepage


This should be required reading for CCers engaged in the US political discussion.


Crazy libertarian website votes libertarian, what a shock.


You're quite the Repocrat these days Symm. It's sad that you have to cling to establishment politics. Perhaps if you could think outside the box a little...


Hah- libertarian magazine all declaring that they'll voter for the libertarian party their boss wrote a book about. or telling their boss they won't vote. Some real free thinkers there.
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:07 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
nietzsche wrote:I heard today in the radio that the G20 was worried about the US deficit, and they mentioned that due the lack of agreement between democrats and republicans the supreme court could decide in an emergency plan? How can this news from the G-20 can impact the election?

I ask it here because I don't know much about it, don't want to start a thread without much facts.


This news will hardly affect the election because Americans in general are already aware of the US deficit problem.

That's interesting speculation about the Supreme Court... could you divulge more details about that?


Yeah, that's really weird. For some reason I'm reminded of Tom Clancy and The Sum of All Fears.


It's been awhile since I've read that. I guess the Supreme Court would be run by Russians, and we'll soon read 15 pages about the inner-workings of an AK47 and the struggles of the great inventor, Mikhail Kalashnikov, who battled the Russian bureaucracy in order to create a gun which forever changed the world.
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:08 pm

Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Reason's editorial staff have released who they will be voting for on Tuesday -

Gary Johnson - 17
Refuse to Vote - 9
Won't Disclose - 1
Mitt Romney - 0
Barack Obama - 0
Jill Stein - 0
Virgil Goode - 0
Rocky Anderson - 0

http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/24/w ... singlepage


This should be required reading for CCers engaged in the US political discussion.


Crazy libertarian website votes libertarian, what a shock.


You're quite the Repocrat these days Symm. It's sad that you have to cling to establishment politics. Perhaps if you could think outside the box a little...


Hah- libertarian magazine all declaring that they'll voter for the libertarian party their boss wrote a book about. or telling their boss they won't vote. Some real free thinkers there.


Since freedom of thinking is relative, then you're implying that the Repocrats are freer thinkers.

Why do you think the Repocrats, such as yourself, are freer thinkers?
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:08 pm

Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Reason's editorial staff have released who they will be voting for on Tuesday -

Gary Johnson - 17
Refuse to Vote - 9
Won't Disclose - 1
Mitt Romney - 0
Barack Obama - 0
Jill Stein - 0
Virgil Goode - 0
Rocky Anderson - 0

http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/24/w ... singlepage


This should be required reading for CCers engaged in the US political discussion.


Crazy libertarian website votes libertarian, what a shock.


You're quite the Repocrat these days Symm. It's sad that you have to cling to establishment politics. Perhaps if you could think outside the box a little...


Hah- libertarian magazine all declaring that they'll voter for the libertarian party their boss wrote a book about. or telling their boss they won't vote. Some real free thinkers there.


Yeah, weird. I wonder who Glenn Beck and Rachel Maddow will vote for.
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby Symmetry on Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:09 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Reason's editorial staff have released who they will be voting for on Tuesday -

Gary Johnson - 17
Refuse to Vote - 9
Won't Disclose - 1
Mitt Romney - 0
Barack Obama - 0
Jill Stein - 0
Virgil Goode - 0
Rocky Anderson - 0

http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/24/w ... singlepage


This should be required reading for CCers engaged in the US political discussion.


Crazy libertarian website votes libertarian, what a shock.


You're quite the Repocrat these days Symm. It's sad that you have to cling to establishment politics. Perhaps if you could think outside the box a little...


Hah- libertarian magazine all declaring that they'll voter for the libertarian party their boss wrote a book about. or telling their boss they won't vote. Some real free thinkers there.


Since freedom of thinking is relative, then you're implying that the Repocrats are freer thinkers.

Why do you think the Repocrats, such as yourself, are freer thinkers?


This seems like a loaded question.
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Re: Romney is Better than Obama

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:12 pm

Your trolling and baiting efforts aren't really going to work, especially since they are so transparent (MeDeFe's support of them notwithstanding). Maybe if you come up with some new material.
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