Conquer Club

Vartiovuori wrote:I think birth control in the form of pills is too specific to be called a right. I do believe that access to effective form of birth control* should be a right, however.

*Abstinence doesn't count.

greenoaks wrote:Falcon Punches are cheaper and universally available

AndyDufresne wrote:Do you mean access to birth control pills, or the very idea that there is such a thing as birth control pills in existence?


--Andy

saxitoxin wrote:Purely IMO, I would consider it an extension of the right of bodily integrity. As such, I would think it's probably a negative right (i.e. the government can't try to foil your attempts to get a French Tickler) but, IMO, not a positive right (i.e. the government is obliged to give you a French Tickler).

2dimes wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:Purely IMO, I would consider it an extension of the right of bodily integrity. As such, I would think it's probably a negative right (i.e. the government can't try to foil your attempts to get a French Tickler) but, IMO, not a positive right (i.e. the government is obliged to give you a French Tickler).

This is my position though I don't mind that the free clinics here hand out birth control. Isn't harming me any since they have the budget.

2dimes wrote:the free clinics here hand out birth control

Before the spring of 2012, birth control was not often considered a heated political topic. Turning on the television, one was far more likely to see an exchange over the Iraq war or the economy than impassioned protests for subsidized contraception.

That has since changed, however, and the “war on women” is now an acceptable talking point. Not only that, but the United Nations has just solidified its own stance on the matter and declared access to contraception a “universal human right” for “women and adolescents.”

It marks the first time the U.N. Population Fund’s annual report explicitly describes family planning as a right, arguing it could dramatically improve the lives of women and children in impoverished countries.

Apparently the legal, cultural and financial barriers to accessing contraception and other family planning measures are infringements upon women’s ability to live freely.

It should be noted, however, that Wednesday’s report isn’t binding and has no legal effect on national laws. However, many top figures in the current administration are supporters of the United Nations, and are much more likely to take guidance from such a body than many conservatives would like.

The global organization also says it plans to increase funding for family planning by a further $4.1 billion, which they think could save $11.3 billion annually in health bills in poor countries.

The United States is single largest contributor to the United Nations, paying roughly 22% of its $5.15 billion budget.

Army of GOD wrote:how the f*ck can contraceptives possibly be considered a right?

they're very important, but once you start throwing the word "right" around like this it'll just be made trivial.

Army of GOD wrote:how the f*ck can contraceptives possibly be considered a right?

they're very important, but once you start throwing the word "right" around like this it'll just be made trivial.

MeDeFe wrote:PS's quote from theblaze.com says "access to contraceptives", however, which is not the same as simply saying "contraceptives".

If access to contraceptives is a UHR it can just mean that the supply of contraceptives should not be interfered with negatively by states and their institutions. So no laws against selling condoms to minors or something like that.

whitestazn88 wrote:Should not be a universal human right. I think the idea of contraceptives is abhorrent, as all it does is promote promiscuity for all segments of society. From little whores walking around from the age of, what, 8 now? To the foolish frat boys who put their cocks in everything? The reason things have gone downhill in the last 30-40 years is this idea that sexual love is greater than the love of self, family, and God. It's about time we kind of toned things down. I mean, if you look at how much sexuality is promoted by the mass media (most of it from those lib-tards in hollywood), it's just sickening.

I mean, I have never had sex, so maybe there's something I'm missing. But I would rather hold out and give myself fully to a person that I'll share my life with than run around putting my pecking in anything that moves, only to regret any physical consequences, but also the hollowness of that non-love sex session.

Baron Von PWN wrote:

whitestazn88 wrote:Should not be a universal human right. I think the idea of contraceptives is abhorrent, as all it does is promote promiscuity for all segments of society. From little whores walking around from the age of, what, 8 now? To the foolish frat boys who put their cocks in everything? The reason things have gone downhill in the last 30-40 years is this idea that sexual love is greater than the love of self, family, and God. It's about time we kind of toned things down. I mean, if you look at how much sexuality is promoted by the mass media (most of it from those lib-tards in hollywood), it's just sickening.

I mean, I have never had sex, so maybe there's something I'm missing. But I would rather hold out and give myself fully to a person that I'll share my life with than run around putting my pecking in anything that moves, only to regret any physical consequences, but also the hollowness of that non-love sex session.

That's right folks, be ashamed of your bodies, and feel bad for wanting to enjoy them. whitestazn88 knows how disgusting and repugnant sexual promiscuity is on account of his never having had sex. He therefore knows first hand how destructive sex is to people's lives. Although never haven experienced it, he is also fully aware of how hollow and empty you feel after having sex with someone you don't love.



Seriously what is this garbage? contraceptives are causing moral degradation of our society? What retarded bullshit and all manner of other kinds of shit. People have been having as much sex as they possibly could since the beginning of time, with or without contraceptives. It's kindoff why prostitution is called the oldest profession. Either world society has been in constant decline since forever or we've always been more or less the same way.

Baron Von PWN wrote:Either world society has been in constant decline since forever or we've always been more or less the same way.

Army of GOD wrote:

Baron Von PWN wrote:

whitestazn88 wrote:Should not be a universal human right. I think the idea of contraceptives is abhorrent, as all it does is promote promiscuity for all segments of society. From little whores walking around from the age of, what, 8 now? To the foolish frat boys who put their cocks in everything? The reason things have gone downhill in the last 30-40 years is this idea that sexual love is greater than the love of self, family, and God. It's about time we kind of toned things down. I mean, if you look at how much sexuality is promoted by the mass media (most of it from those lib-tards in hollywood), it's just sickening.

I mean, I have never had sex, so maybe there's something I'm missing. But I would rather hold out and give myself fully to a person that I'll share my life with than run around putting my pecking in anything that moves, only to regret any physical consequences, but also the hollowness of that non-love sex session.

That's right folks, be ashamed of your bodies, and feel bad for wanting to enjoy them. whitestazn88 knows how disgusting and repugnant sexual promiscuity is on account of his never having had sex. He therefore knows first hand how destructive sex is to people's lives. Although never haven experienced it, he is also fully aware of how hollow and empty you feel after having sex with someone you don't love.



Seriously what is this garbage? contraceptives are causing moral degradation of our society? What retarded bullshit and all manner of other kinds of shit. People have been having as much sex as they possibly could since the beginning of time, with or without contraceptives. It's kindoff why prostitution is called the oldest profession. Either world society has been in constant decline since forever or we've always been more or less the same way.

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