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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby GreecePwns on Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:17 pm

Phatscotty wrote:who intentionally targets civilians and targets randomly?

probably the #1 reason why I see Israel as defending itself

Why, the 1.7 million imprisoned Palestinians aren't civilians? Lol
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:54 pm

Phatscotty wrote:who intentionally targets civilians and targets randomly?


The Palestinian forces use homemade rockets because that's the technology they have. Israel builds military facilities near residential neighborhoods. The Palestinian Self-Defense Forces can't be expected to halt responsive military actions just because the Israelis choose to hide among civilians. (When NATO blew the bejeezus out of civilian neighborhoods in Serbia the response was "well, the Serbians shouldn't put Anti-Aircraft guns in civilian neighborhoods." Unfortunately for the Serbians, they didn't think to drop $20 million hiring expensive Madison Avenue PR firms, so they were the bad guys on that one.)

If Israel would care to provide modern targeting and guidance systems to the Palestinian Self-Defense Forces I'm sure the firing barrages would fall more accurately on IDF barracks and artillery emplacements.
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:16 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:who intentionally targets civilians and targets randomly?


The Palestinian forces use homemade rockets because that's the technology they have. Israel builds military facilities near residential neighborhoods. The Palestinian Self-Defense Forces can't be expected to halt responsive military actions just because the Israelis choose to hide among civilians. (When NATO blew the bejeezus out of civilian neighborhoods in Serbia the response was "well, the Serbians shouldn't put Anti-Aircraft guns in civilian neighborhoods." Unfortunately for the Serbians, they didn't think to drop $20 million hiring expensive Madison Avenue PR firms, so they were the bad guys on that one.)

If Israel would care to provide modern targeting and guidance systems to the Palestinian Self-Defense Forces I'm sure the firing barrages would fall more accurately on IDF barracks and artillery emplacements.


Yeah I was going to say I think the rockets are the best they can do...
If they were able to target leaders I'm sure they would. It makes a bigger splash.
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:23 pm

Wanna know how this is gonna happen?



Like this ...

ISRAEL has sold at least dollars 2bn ( pounds 1.3bn) to dollars 3bn of hi-tech military equipment to China, seriously undermining US efforts to limit the sale of advanced weapons to the Chinese. A Senate report due out later this week says the Israeli exports include military technology developed by the US, and which Washington expressly forbids from being exported to China.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 10406.html
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Re: Another Round of Conflicts in Gaza

Postby x-raider on Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:00 am

saxitoxin wrote:If Israel would care to provide modern targeting and guidance systems to the Palestinian Self-Defense Forces I'm sure the firing barrages would fall more accurately on IDF barracks and artillery emplacements.
Where does it say in the Geneva convention that "You should either sabotage your own technological advances or provide weapons to your enemy [to ensure a fair fight]"?

Maybe, just possibly, that's what the UN was made for. To ensure, that in a modern society, countries shouldn't just have power because they have superiority in arms or technology over their neighbors (or chosen enemies). But there is an inherent flaw there, that society is yet to resolve. Of course such a flaw-causing problem could continue to exist far into the unknown future. We can only try to come closer to a resolution.

Saxi, could you please try to explain what you actually mean to say? From the top?
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby karel on Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:34 pm

i say let isreal deal with their own problems,who knows they probably started this stupid war,sick of the usa protecting them,and wasting money on them.
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby bedub1 on Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:44 pm

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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby karel on Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:38 pm

bedub1 wrote:
karel wrote:i say let isreal deal with their own problems,who knows they probably started this stupid war,sick of the usa protecting them,and wasting money on them.

They seem like a little arrogant shit, that thinks it's got this huge bodybuilder guy as backup, so they can be as big of dicks as they want. If we stopped backing them, and they realized they were alone, I think they might change their tone and learn to live in peace with their neighbors. They seem to be just out looking for a fight right now, and I really don't want to see a 3rd world war, and I don't want to see the US in ANOTHER war in the fuckin' middle east.



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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby Funkyterrance on Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:36 pm

karel wrote:
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Have you got 4 mice in your pocket? :)
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:42 pm

Yesterday, a hundred people peacefully gathered outside a Zionist espionage compound in San Francisco when several Israeli spies/agents provacteurs emerged and shredded a Palestinian flag and chanted "IDF" (the name of an Israeli terrorist group) in a futile effort to provoke violence.

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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby GreecePwns on Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:14 pm

Around 1000 Palestinians gathered in front of a similar building in New York, joined by anti-Zionist Jews, Occupy protesters, student groups from various universities, ordinary citizens and left-wing groups such as the Revolutionary Communist Party. On the opposite corner were around 4 or 5 Zionists waving Israeli and American flags. This video is from Thursday, but the protests have been going on daily since.

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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby Frito Bandito on Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:20 pm

GreecePwns wrote:Let's start with the fact that 99% of Congress is already Zionist, some vehemently so.

The Israel lobby includes the Jewish population in America, the entirety of the neo-conservative movement, Evangelical Christians, etc. etc. In other words, a group so awash with cash that they can easily influence any election they want to.

And let's say the token anti-Zionist is elected, will their opinions ever be heard when its 537 vs. 1?



This is one of the stupidest "facts" ever stated. If you want to make your case... maybe you should borrow somebody else's brain.
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby GreecePwns on Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:21 pm

Feel free to present an argument against it.
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby Frito Bandito on Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:37 pm

Where is the fact YOU stated :)
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Re: Another Round of Israeli Attacks on Gaza

Postby GreecePwns on Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:44 pm

I'm pretty sure all of what I've written in this thread is true. If you don't think so, prove it.
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