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Re: Now people are wanting their states to secede.

Postby MegaProphet on Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:43 am

Night Strike wrote:
chang50 wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
bedub1 wrote:If they secede, the US won't have as large of a financial problem anymore, as the states that want to secede take in more tax revenue from the blue states then they give back.

The governors of these states know they are welfare states, sucking on the teet of the federal government, so there is no way they will ever secede.


Then why are all the blue states massively in debt?

And most of the money to red states is mandated by the federal government, not because those citizens actually want the government's handouts.

notyou2 wrote:I believe most of them can't stand the thought of another 4 years of a black man as president. It's not that they hate democrats, or liberals, they don't like an African American as their commander in chief. They are behaving like the whiny child, a bunch of spoiled brats and sore losers.


How shallow are your beliefs that you would care about the color of a person's skin over the content of their character or the policy positions they take?


As shallow as generations of slave owners in your country..


We currently live in the 21st century, not the 19th century. None of us today are responsible for the actions that took place then, yet the people who continue to blame every disagreement with Obama as being due to race are completely responsible for their own racist views.

I don't think that everyone who wants to secede only wants to secede because Obama is black, but you also can't deny that there are quite a few who base at least some their politics off of racism.
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Re: Now people are wanting their states to secede.

Postby thegreekdog on Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:23 am

Does the map include racist tweets with respect to Obama, or also racist tweets with respect to Romney?
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Re: Now people are wanting their states to secede.

Postby MegaProphet on Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:37 am

thegreekdog wrote:Does the map include racist tweets with respect to Obama, or also racist tweets with respect to Romney?

I believe the map only includes racist tweets directed toward Obama and not prejudice tweets directed toward Romney.

Edit: Here's an explanation of the map from the website that created it
http://www.floatingsheep.org/2012/11/fa ... ponse.html
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Re: Now people are wanting their states to secede.

Postby Frigidus on Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:49 pm

I wish they'd just hurry up and secede. See you, good luck, please hand over our nuclear weapons on the way out!
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Re: Now people are wanting their states to secede.

Postby thegreekdog on Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:57 pm

MegaProphet wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:Does the map include racist tweets with respect to Obama, or also racist tweets with respect to Romney?

I believe the map only includes racist tweets directed toward Obama and not prejudice tweets directed toward Romney.

Edit: Here's an explanation of the map from the website that created it
http://www.floatingsheep.org/2012/11/fa ... ponse.html


Thanks.

I'm a bit confused by the following two statements:

The 395 tweets mentioned are the number of geocoded tweets referencing the given keywords from November 1 until November 7 at approximately 4:00 pm EST. This is NOT a sample, but the total population of geocoded tweets that matched our search criteria as outlined in the post. Geocoded tweets make up a tiny fraction of overall Twitter activity (could be as large as 5% or as small as less than 1%), so the actual number of tweets referencing these keywords is likely much, much larger, though we are not sure as to this number.


Finally, if this is your first response to our map, and not “that’s really f---ed up!”, then we probably have more important issues to deal with than the minutiae of our methodology. Though we endorse neither hatred, discrimination or violence against anyone, we refuse to acknowledge the equivalence of the terms being used to describe President Obama and Mitt Romney.


I don't think 395 tweets over a 6 day period is something that would make me say "that's really fucked up."
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Re: Now people are wanting their states to secede.

Postby Army of GOD on Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:10 pm

I feel like the distinction between racism against two different races is helping out racism as a whole. Isn't that in and of itself racism?
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Re: Now people are wanting their states to secede.

Postby Army of GOD on Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:16 pm

Anyway, not that it'll ever happen because I'm sure Texas is a cashcow for the US and they'll never give it up, never gonna let it down, but it would surely be interesting if they tried.
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Re: Now people are wanting their states to secede.

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:50 pm

MegaProphet wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
chang50 wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
bedub1 wrote:If they secede, the US won't have as large of a financial problem anymore, as the states that want to secede take in more tax revenue from the blue states then they give back.

The governors of these states know they are welfare states, sucking on the teet of the federal government, so there is no way they will ever secede.


Then why are all the blue states massively in debt?

And most of the money to red states is mandated by the federal government, not because those citizens actually want the government's handouts.

notyou2 wrote:I believe most of them can't stand the thought of another 4 years of a black man as president. It's not that they hate democrats, or liberals, they don't like an African American as their commander in chief. They are behaving like the whiny child, a bunch of spoiled brats and sore losers.


How shallow are your beliefs that you would care about the color of a person's skin over the content of their character or the policy positions they take?


As shallow as generations of slave owners in your country..


We currently live in the 21st century, not the 19th century. None of us today are responsible for the actions that took place then, yet the people who continue to blame every disagreement with Obama as being due to race are completely responsible for their own racist views.

.....but you also can't deny that there are quite a few who base at least some their politics off of racism.


Happens here all the time.
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Re: Now people are wanting their states to secede.

Postby notyou2 on Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:57 pm

Night Strike wrote:
bedub1 wrote:If they secede, the US won't have as large of a financial problem anymore, as the states that want to secede take in more tax revenue from the blue states then they give back.

The governors of these states know they are welfare states, sucking on the teet of the federal government, so there is no way they will ever secede.


Then why are all the blue states massively in debt?

And most of the money to red states is mandated by the federal government, not because those citizens actually want the government's handouts.

notyou2 wrote:I believe most of them can't stand the thought of another 4 years of a black man as president. It's not that they hate democrats, or liberals, they don't like an African American as their commander in chief. They are behaving like the whiny child, a bunch of spoiled brats and sore losers.


How shallow are your beliefs that you would care about the color of a person's skin over the content of their character or the policy positions they take?


How shallow are you in believing that Obama wasn't born in America......or is the real reason the colour of his skin and his racial heritage???
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Re: Now people are wanting their states to secede.

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:13 pm

and there's one who's politics are dependent on birtherism and racism
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Re: Now people are wanting their states to secede.

Postby notyou2 on Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:25 pm

There was a president that it is strongly believed that he was born in Quebec, but it ain't Obama.
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Re: Now people are wanting their states to secede.

Postby Night Strike on Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:25 pm

notyou2 wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
bedub1 wrote:If they secede, the US won't have as large of a financial problem anymore, as the states that want to secede take in more tax revenue from the blue states then they give back.

The governors of these states know they are welfare states, sucking on the teet of the federal government, so there is no way they will ever secede.


Then why are all the blue states massively in debt?

And most of the money to red states is mandated by the federal government, not because those citizens actually want the government's handouts.

notyou2 wrote:I believe most of them can't stand the thought of another 4 years of a black man as president. It's not that they hate democrats, or liberals, they don't like an African American as their commander in chief. They are behaving like the whiny child, a bunch of spoiled brats and sore losers.


How shallow are your beliefs that you would care about the color of a person's skin over the content of their character or the policy positions they take?


How shallow are you in believing that Obama wasn't born in America......or is the real reason the colour of his skin and his racial heritage???


Considering I don't believe he was born in another country, what other false premises do you have to base YOUR beliefs on?
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Re: Now people are wanting their states to secede.

Postby notyou2 on Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:27 pm

Night Strike wrote:
notyou2 wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
bedub1 wrote:If they secede, the US won't have as large of a financial problem anymore, as the states that want to secede take in more tax revenue from the blue states then they give back.

The governors of these states know they are welfare states, sucking on the teet of the federal government, so there is no way they will ever secede.


Then why are all the blue states massively in debt?

And most of the money to red states is mandated by the federal government, not because those citizens actually want the government's handouts.

notyou2 wrote:I believe most of them can't stand the thought of another 4 years of a black man as president. It's not that they hate democrats, or liberals, they don't like an African American as their commander in chief. They are behaving like the whiny child, a bunch of spoiled brats and sore losers.


How shallow are your beliefs that you would care about the color of a person's skin over the content of their character or the policy positions they take?


How shallow are you in believing that Obama wasn't born in America......or is the real reason the colour of his skin and his racial heritage???


Considering I don't believe he was born in another country, what other false premises do you have to base YOUR beliefs on?


Really? You weren't one of the birthers from 4 years back?
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Re: Now people are wanting their states to secede.

Postby Night Strike on Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:32 pm

notyou2 wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
notyou2 wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
bedub1 wrote:If they secede, the US won't have as large of a financial problem anymore, as the states that want to secede take in more tax revenue from the blue states then they give back.

The governors of these states know they are welfare states, sucking on the teet of the federal government, so there is no way they will ever secede.


Then why are all the blue states massively in debt?

And most of the money to red states is mandated by the federal government, not because those citizens actually want the government's handouts.

notyou2 wrote:I believe most of them can't stand the thought of another 4 years of a black man as president. It's not that they hate democrats, or liberals, they don't like an African American as their commander in chief. They are behaving like the whiny child, a bunch of spoiled brats and sore losers.


How shallow are your beliefs that you would care about the color of a person's skin over the content of their character or the policy positions they take?


How shallow are you in believing that Obama wasn't born in America......or is the real reason the colour of his skin and his racial heritage???


Considering I don't believe he was born in another country, what other false premises do you have to base YOUR beliefs on?


Really? You weren't one of the birthers from 4 years back?


No. I believe he should have shown his birth certificate, just like he should have shown all the other past records that he has refused to show, but that doesn't mean I believe he was born elsewhere. He did however spend a lot of his young years in Indonesia as well as learning about an idealized father who hated capitalism (under the guise of hating colonialism), which is why he grew up having desires of "fundamentally transforming" the US.
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Re: Now people are wanting their states to secede.

Postby karel on Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:58 pm

if they want to go,f*ck them,good bye,we did not like ur state anyways,little piss ants
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