thegreekdog wrote: Phatscotty wrote: thegreekdog wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:pff. #1, you think this is a free market? That is so friggin laughable, I don't blame anyone for not touching it!
This (Hostess) it what it looks like when the free market has been suffocated.
What are you even talking about? There was no government intervention here at all that I could see. What am I missing?
Now, if Hostess got a bailout... then we'd have something to discuss.
The market place in America is definitely not a free market or barely free market friendly, and highly over-regulated by both the government, and the union, in this case.
Wait, what? The union is highly over-regulating the marketplace? Explain how that works.
I agree that the economy of the United States it not a free market, obviously. However, in this instance, with Hostess, I'm looking for where the over-regulation occurred that caused the company to go bankrupt. It seems that this is EXACTLY how the free market should work.
And again, we can see the difference between Phatscotty the supposed free market guy and Phatscotty the mainstream Republican, big business guy.
I think what he means (PS correct me if I am wrong), is that union regulations that the company has to abide by were a reason (not THE reason, but A reason) that the company failed. i.e. the fact that Wonderbread and Twinkies couldn't be shipped on the same truck.
In my experience, unions typically bog down companies and make them less efficient.
Also, to those who want to blame the union members, you should probably instead blame the union leadership, not the rank-and-file members. When votes come around in unions, the leaders basically tell the membership how they should be voting, and also control the level of information that gets out to those members. What do you think happens a majority of the time? The members vote as they are instructed to. Although I wasn't there, I bet the union leaders were telling their members not to accept the last proposal, and that the "company closing" was a bunch of BS just to get them to sign on the dotted line...