Conquer Club

Big Least is looking like it is about to implode with the Big 10 expanding (again) with Rutgers and Maryland.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... ources-say

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story ... ources-say

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bedub1 wrote:

muy_thaiguy wrote:Big Least is looking like it is about to implode with the Big 10 expanding (again) with Rutgers and Maryland.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... ources-say

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story ... ources-say

What did that say about the Pac 12?

That they regret ever adding Colorado.

But right now there are rumblings that the ACC is about to be torn to shreds by the Big 10, SEC, and Big 12 (which probably means they backfill with the remnants of the Big Least).

These NCAA shuffles are some weird shit,
and it's all about the money.

Obama is re-elected and somehow Notre Dame is #1?

oVo wrote:These NCAA shuffles are some weird shit,
and it's all about the money.

Obama is re-elected and somehow Notre Dame is #1?

Of the top teams, they have had the most difficult schedule and remained undefeated. They beat USC, they garuntee their #1 spot.

Granted, their offense is stagnant for the most part, their defense is top class, and led by Hesiman candidate Manti Teo.

Also, I NEVER want to a national title game between 2 conference foes ever again. Especially a rematch from the same division. Some real bullshit there.

muy_thaiguy wrote:Granted, their offense is stagnant for the most part, their defense is top class, and led by Hesiman candidate Manti Teo.

Unranked Pitt outplayed them and a faux-call on a fourth down play extended a drive in the 4th Quarter and got them back in the game.

muy_thaiguy wrote:Also, I NEVER want to a national title game between 2 conference foes ever again. Especially a rematch from the same division. Some real bullshit there.

Agreed, that was BS... LSU beats 'em and Bama gets a Championship Game do over?

Bama gets taken down by A&M and then manages to climb back to #2, while Oregon loses to Stanford in double OT and tumbles down the standings? The SEC Championship Game should be very interesting this year.

Here's to the playoff, which can't come soon enough.


--Andy

SEC is by far the best. Just look at the average size of players in SEC compared to other schools.

I'm not sure if this thread is about;

A - Football fans who happen to be American (eg. the Brazilians)



B - Fans of American football



C - Football fans made in America

ManBungalow wrote:I'm not sure if this thread is about;

A - Football fans who happen to be American (eg. the Brazilians)



B - Fans of American football



C - Football fans made in America

It seems to be slightly more obscure than the options you're thinking about. They seem to be discussing American football played by college students. Apparently this is a "thing" in the US.

Symmetry wrote:

ManBungalow wrote:I'm not sure if this thread is about;

A - Football fans who happen to be American (eg. the Brazilians)



B - Fans of American football



C - Football fans made in America

It seems to be slightly more obscure than the options you're thinking about. They seem to be discussing American football played by college students. Apparently this is a "thing" in the US.

Try a "very big thing" with multipile stadiums that seat over 100,000 people all over the country.

In more recent news, the ACC is now being targeted by the Big 4 and the Big East could be disbanded by the basketball schools.

That'd be only in the US though right? And we're still just talking about teenagers playing this stuff? It's almost as if you find this exciting.

It won't be a conference match up. The only conference who's close to that position is the SEC with three one loss teams. Florida isn't going to hte National championship (and honestly probably will be beaten by FSU) and the other two will be settled by the SEC Championship.

That being said, what are the chances of Georgia beating Alabama and making it to the National Championship? I think people who know me know I've been cautiously optimistic (at best) about Georgia since their implosion the year they were supposed to be #1 (and a bit before that at times). Personally I think they can beat Alabama but they need to be more consistent on both sides of the ball than they have for most of the season.

As far as Notre Dame, I kind of think they will lose to USC in which case it will probably be Oregon in the NC (assuming that they don't lose again in the toughest stretch of their schedule) against the SEC conference champion.

strike wolf wrote:It won't be a conference match up. The only conference who's close to that position is the SEC with three one loss teams. Florida isn't going to hte National championship (and honestly probably will be beaten by FSU) and the other two will be settled by the SEC Championship.

That being said, what are the chances of Georgia beating Alabama and making it to the National Championship? I think people who know me know I've been cautiously optimistic (at best) about Georgia since their implosion the year they were supposed to be #1 (and a bit before that at times). Personally I think they can beat Alabama but they need to be more consistent on both sides of the ball than they have for most of the season.

As far as Notre Dame, I kind of think they will lose to USC in which case it will probably be Oregon in the NC (assuming that they don't lose again in the toughest stretch of their schedule) against the SEC conference champion.

You sound like an expert, but even that explanation sounds kind of disappointing.

Symmetry wrote:That'd be only in the US though right? And we're still just talking about teenagers playing this stuff? It's almost as if you find this exciting.

18-21 (or past, depending on what school and certain circumstances). And conference expansion means what teams will be in what conference. The range from the South East (with the South East Conference, Sunbelt, C-USA East divison, Big East, and ACC), to the Mid-West/North East (Big 10, MAC, ACC, and Big East), to the central time zone (Big 12, Big 10, and C-USA West divsion), to the Moutain Time zone (MWC, PAC-12, WAC, and 1 team in C-USA), to the West Coast (PAC-12, MWC, and WAC).

strike wolf wrote:It won't be a conference match up. The only conference who's close to that position is the SEC with three one loss teams. Florida isn't going to hte National championship (and honestly probably will be beaten by FSU) and the other two will be settled by the SEC Championship.<BR sab="704"><BR sab="705">That being said, what are the chances of Georgia beating Alabama and making it to the National Championship? I think people who know me know I've been cautiously optimistic (at best) about Georgia since their implosion the year they were supposed to be #1 (and a bit before that at times). Personally I think they can beat Alabama but they need to be more consistent on both sides of the ball than they have for most of the season.<BR sab="706"><BR sab="707">As far as Notre Dame, I kind of think they will lose to USC in which case it will probably be Oregon in the NC (assuming that they don't lose again in the toughest stretch of their schedule) against the SEC conference champion.

I just find it incredulous that Bama lost to a 2 loss team at home, dropped 3 places, while Oregon when up against one of the best defenses in the country against Stanford (also top ranked) and almost was dropped out of the top 10.

And I would LOVE a 2 loss Georgia team to beat Bama in the SEC title game, knocking out any hopes for a national title for the SEC.

Symmetry wrote:

strike wolf wrote:It won't be a conference match up. The only conference who's close to that position is the SEC with three one loss teams. Florida isn't going to hte National championship (and honestly probably will be beaten by FSU) and the other two will be settled by the SEC Championship.

That being said, what are the chances of Georgia beating Alabama and making it to the National Championship? I think people who know me know I've been cautiously optimistic (at best) about Georgia since their implosion the year they were supposed to be #1 (and a bit before that at times). Personally I think they can beat Alabama but they need to be more consistent on both sides of the ball than they have for most of the season.

As far as Notre Dame, I kind of think they will lose to USC in which case it will probably be Oregon in the NC (assuming that they don't lose again in the toughest stretch of their schedule) against the SEC conference champion.

You sound like an expert, but even that explanation sounds kind of disappointing.

I was mostly going by strength of schedule. Though I admit to forgetting that Stanford, not Oregon, now controls it's own destiny in the Pac. Assuming that Stanford doesn't lose it does look less likely that Oregon would be given the chance to play for the National Championship (BCS traditionally favors conference champions) so Kansas State would be the logical choice.. Florida is just a feeling. A lot of their games were ugly. The Georgia game they lost was ugly and they had some ugly wins to so-so teams. I personally feel that FSU is a better team than they are. IF they are 1-loss I would still contend that no one wants to see a rematch of the Georgia-Florida game (It's not an LSU-Alabama situation where there was a strong fan push that they were the two best teams in the country). If Alabama wins the SEC championship than I suppose there is a stronger chance that Florida will get the chance considering that Alabama and Florida did not play Alabama this year. I would still say Kansas State gets the chance assuming that the BCS indeed favors conference champions.

@Muy: Umm...Georgia only has 1 loss currently ranked #3.

Notre Dame's odds improved drastically when it was announced
that a freshman will start his first game for USC against them.

I do think Georgia can beat Alabama and just like Stanford,
Texas A&M (even with their freshman QB) is no slouch.

The Crimson Tide sure are popular with the pollsters and won't be
challenged again until the SEC Championship. Go Dogs!

Yes. People seem to forget that stanford was also a two loss team. I don't think this was the week for Alabama to fall behind oregon. It's the nature of the beast that the later in the season a team loses the more pollsters hurt them for it (relatively). A team that loses in the first 10 games of the season is much more likely to regain the #1 spot then a team that loses in week 11 or 12. I do actually feel that when Alabama lost they should have dropped behind Georgia but I am a bit biased on that call.

@Muy: Umm...Georgia only has 1 loss currently ranked #3.

I meant Georgia losing to Georgia Tech but then turning around and beating Alabama in the SEC title game.

muy_thaiguy wrote:

@Muy: Umm...Georgia only has 1 loss currently ranked #3.

I meant Georgia losing to Georgia Tech but then turning around and beating Alabama in the SEC title game.

Improbable. both Georgia and Bans are playing somewhat unimpressive teams this week (not to mention Georgia's already up big on Tech) so I doubt either will have two losses coming into the SEC championship. even if one of then did and beat the one loss team than Florida may still get the spot if they beat FSU. that would be a tragedy as Florida really is the most overranked and overrated team right now.

as far as wishing the SEC doesn't even make it to the championship. I honestly thought you would prefer a situation where they did but lost. trust me having been the ones to do it against OSU back then it is a very satisfying feeling.

Well, both Georgia and Alabama rolled. But Notre Dame did what they do. Their defense kept smacking USC in the mouth all night and the offense did enough to win.

Honestly, if Georgia beat Bama (I would laugh at the Bama fans if that happened) and met UND in the title game, I think UND's defense would be able to control Georgia's offense pretty well. I think they would even be able to do that with Bama. THey have been that dominant up front all season, and is a big reason why Manti Te'o is a candidate for the Heisman.

Yes, I'm a closet Notre Dame fan, but first and foremot are the Wyoming Cowboys (whose season sadly ended today), who have had a rough season, to say the least.

I do appreciate the Fighting Irish's dream season and their defense
should keep them in the game against their #2 SEC challenger.
Both Georgia & Alabama can git 'er done.

I did not want Florida to sneak past Georgia in the BCS Ranks,
since the Bulldogs already walked all over them at the Swamp.

Last year LSU had already beaten Bama and should have faced
someone else in the Championship. The precedent for that was
set when #1 Ohio State edged #2 Michigan in a tight one years ago.

USC's red shirt freshman QB put the deep ball on the money several
times last night and ND was fortunate Trojan didn't reel them in.

It has been quite a few years since there was an actual national championship game that I actually was interested in watching. And the last really exciting championship game might have been the Texas-USC matchup some years ago, with Vince Young sprinting into the endzone for the win.


--Andy

AndyDufresne wrote:It has been quite a few years since there was an actual national championship game that I actually was interested in watching. And the last really exciting championship game might have been the Texas-USC matchup some years ago, with Vince Young sprinting into the endzone for the win.


--Andy

That's the last college football national championship game I watched.

Indeed the Texas-USC Championship was exceptional. Another great Championship Game was around 2002 or so when the underdog Ohio State beat Miami in triple overtime.

Notre Dame will likely still be ranked #1 for the BCS Championship, but it wouldn't surprise me if they are the underdog against the survivor of the SEC Championship game in Atlanta.