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God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:06 pm
by GabonX
God Bless America!

Where else can a 50 year old transsexual war veteran with a height of 6'6 full-fill their dream of competing agaisnt 18 to 20 year old girls in college basketball?

Progress at work:

Transgender player attains college basketball first

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Gabrielle Ludwig, a 6-foot-6-inch transsexual player on Mission College's women's basketball squad, reflects on her return to college ball on Friday, Dec. 7, 2012, in Santa Clara, Calif. Gabrielle Ludwig made sports history this month as a basketball player at a Northern California community college. The 50-year-old transsexual, Army veteran, father and Mission College freshman is believed to be the first hoopster to play college ball as both a man and a woman. (AP Photo/Noah Berger)

SANTA CLARA, Calif. — The women’s basketball team at Mission College expected the bleachers to be full and the hecklers ready when its newest player made her home court debut.

In the days leading up to the game, people had plenty to say about 6-foot-6-inch, 220-pound Gabrielle Ludwig, who joined the Lady Saints as a mid-season walk-on and became, according to advocates, the first transsexual to play college hoops as both a man and a woman.

Coach Corey Cafferata worried the outside noise was getting to his players, particularly the 50-year-old Ludwig.

A pair of ESPN radio hosts had laughed at her looks, referring to her as “it.” And online threats and anonymous calls prompted the two-year college to assign the Navy veteran of Operation Desert Storm a safer parking space next to the gym and two police guards.

Last week, Ludwig gathered her 10 teammates at practice and offered to quit. This was their time to shine, she told the group of 18-, 19- and 20-year-olds. She didn’t want to be a distraction for the team. The other women said if Ludwig, whom they nicknamed “Big Sexy” and “Princess,” didn’t play, they wouldn’t either.

Didn’t she know she was the glue holding the team together?

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges ... first.html

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:10 pm
by Phatscotty
PROGRESS! EVERYTHING IS NORMAL!

FORWARD!!!!!!!!!

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:45 pm
by ManBungalow
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Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:52 pm
by Iliad
Phatscotty wrote:PROGRESS! EVERYTHING IS NORMAL!

FORWARD!!!!!!!!!

You're a real piece of work huh.

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:25 am
by Army of GOD
This is an interesting idea.

I mean, I'm 5'6'' so I have no chance in college basketball, but I feel like I could do pretty damn well in women's rugby.

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:27 am
by Symmetry
Army of GOD wrote:This is an interesting idea.

I mean, I'm 5'6'' so I have no chance in college basketball, but I feel like I could do pretty damn well in women's rugby.


I've always thought that you'd be a good hooker.

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:31 pm
by jonesthecurl
Symmetry wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:This is an interesting idea.

I mean, I'm 5'6'' so I have no chance in college basketball, but I feel like I could do pretty damn well in women's rugby.


I've always thought that you'd be a good hooker.


And you love odd-shaped balls.

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:39 pm
by john9blue
i thought people her age were ineligible for college sports?

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:31 pm
by muy_thaiguy
john9blue wrote:i thought people her age were ineligible for college sports?

There was a kicker (American Football) or something that played for a DIV 2 or 3 school in his 40s.

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:36 pm
by rdsrds2120
Good for her.

BMO

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:44 pm
by -Maximus-
Is he doing good? Does he dominate while playing with women?

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:45 pm
by Lootifer
Phatscotty wrote:PROGRESS! EVERYTHING IS NORMAL!

FORWARD!!!!!!!!!

I guess it's her and the teams acceptance of her which has corrupted american culture (from your point of view)?

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:48 pm
by Symmetry
-Maximus- wrote:Is he doing good? Does he dominate while playing with women?


She

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:53 pm
by -Maximus-
Symmetry wrote:
-Maximus- wrote:Is he doing good? Does he dominate while playing with women?


She


That's a man that is now an amputee.

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:59 pm
by Army of GOD
Is it going to set any records?

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:00 pm
by Symmetry
-Maximus- wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
-Maximus- wrote:Is he doing good? Does he dominate while playing with women?


She


That's a man that is now an amputee.


Not really, and watch yourself on the transgender bigotry, as NS points out in the community guidelines, it's against the rules.

NightStrike wrote:Bigotry includes racism, sexism, ageism, homophobia/sexual orientation bashing, religion bashing, lack of religion bashing, or wishing violence on any group of people, etc.

Bigotry takes into account historic events, emotional baggage and generally accepted associations with a term, phrase or intent - posting "White Power" in a topic has a history and is bigoted, posting "Green Power" makes you an environmentalist.

Bigotry will get your post edited/deleted and you will receive a disciplinary action from a mod. Bigotry, just avoid it. Just do it.


Consider this a gentle piece of advice.

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:03 pm
by -Maximus-
Symmetry wrote:
-Maximus- wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
-Maximus- wrote:Is he doing good? Does he dominate while playing with women?


She


That's a man that is now an amputee.


Not really, and watch yourself on the transgender bigotry, as NS points out in the community guidelines, it's against the rules.

NightStrike wrote:Bigotry includes racism, sexism, ageism, homophobia/sexual orientation bashing, religion bashing, lack of religion bashing, or wishing violence on any group of people, etc.

Bigotry takes into account historic events, emotional baggage and generally accepted associations with a term, phrase or intent - posting "White Power" in a topic has a history and is bigoted, posting "Green Power" makes you an environmentalist.

Bigotry will get your post edited/deleted and you will receive a disciplinary action from a mod. Bigotry, just avoid it. Just do it.


Consider this a gentle piece of advice.


Sometimes the truth hurts, but it is still the truth.

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:17 pm
by Symmetry
-Maximus- wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
-Maximus- wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
-Maximus- wrote:Is he doing good? Does he dominate while playing with women?


She


That's a man that is now an amputee.


Not really, and watch yourself on the transgender bigotry, as NS points out in the community guidelines, it's against the rules.

NightStrike wrote:Bigotry includes racism, sexism, ageism, homophobia/sexual orientation bashing, religion bashing, lack of religion bashing, or wishing violence on any group of people, etc.

Bigotry takes into account historic events, emotional baggage and generally accepted associations with a term, phrase or intent - posting "White Power" in a topic has a history and is bigoted, posting "Green Power" makes you an environmentalist.

Bigotry will get your post edited/deleted and you will receive a disciplinary action from a mod. Bigotry, just avoid it. Just do it.


Consider this a gentle piece of advice.


Sometimes the truth hurts, but it is still the truth.


No dude, you're being deliberately offensive here. There's nothing stopping you referring to her as "she".

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:23 pm
by -Maximus-
Symmetry wrote:
-Maximus- wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
-Maximus- wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
-Maximus- wrote:Is he doing good? Does he dominate while playing with women?


She


That's a man that is now an amputee.


Not really, and watch yourself on the transgender bigotry, as NS points out in the community guidelines, it's against the rules.

NightStrike wrote:Bigotry includes racism, sexism, ageism, homophobia/sexual orientation bashing, religion bashing, lack of religion bashing, or wishing violence on any group of people, etc.

Bigotry takes into account historic events, emotional baggage and generally accepted associations with a term, phrase or intent - posting "White Power" in a topic has a history and is bigoted, posting "Green Power" makes you an environmentalist.

Bigotry will get your post edited/deleted and you will receive a disciplinary action from a mod. Bigotry, just avoid it. Just do it.


Consider this a gentle piece of advice.


Sometimes the truth hurts, but it is still the truth.


No dude, you're being deliberately offensive here. There's nothing stopping you referring to her as "she".


What would the dna say?

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:27 pm
by Symmetry
-Maximus- wrote:What would the dna say?


That you're being an ass, obviously.

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:00 pm
by pimpdave
GabonX, why the f*ck are you reading about women's basketball when there are real sports going on?

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:34 pm
by jonesthecurl
Army of GOD wrote:Is it going to set any records?


Not now it's been amputated.

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:10 am
by rdsrds2120
-Maximus- wrote:
What would the dna say?


That the sex is male. Gender is not determined solely by XY chromosomes, but is how you feel. For assistance, here is the genderbread person:

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In the meantime, calling transgender people (or anyone, really) "it" is generally understood to be dehumanizing and hurtful, so I would ask for it to stop now. Thank you,

BMO

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:29 am
by /
Gross, my cookies don't have those parts... :sick:
But seriously, that is rather informative, Kudos BMO.
What is the appropriate pronoun for a genderless, gender neutral person by the way?
Also, as a video game system, what pronoun do you prefer?

Re: God Bless America! Where else can..?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:47 am
by rdsrds2120
/ wrote:Gross, my cookies don't have those parts... :sick:
But seriously, that is rather informative, Kudos BMO.
What is the appropriate pronoun for a genderless, gender neutral person by the way?
Also, as a video game system, what pronoun do you prefer?


That's a person to person preference. If you're ever unsure, you can usually ask what that person's preferred pronoun is as a show of respect, and they'll thank you for not assuming one way or the other.

I'm totally a 'he', but you can just call me:

BMO