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Tea Party spokesperson, Alex Jones is often considered to be one of the most important political thinkers within the racist, violent organization.

Do you guys think Alex Jones is right?

Obama was clearly upset, as were most Americans. His eyes were watery, but he held back tears very well. The "tear wiping" motion with his finger was more involuntary then purposely done.

However, tonight he will be speaking at the Newtown vigil...I am interested in what will be said.

Obama is about to put on the performance of his life. The entire country is very emotional right now, and that is Obama's specialty. He is going to gather all the emotions and feelings and manipulate them to push his gun agenda that won't solve anything (a lot like raising taxes on the rich), but it will make people feel better, on the inside. There is nothing wrong with that, a good President should help with the healing process. But Obama probably doesn't even care about the kids that were killed, as none of the kids "look like him". He will start off strong, saying all the right things that the speech writers give him to say (while getting all the credit for being so brilliant) but watch that turn into a complete exploitation of the tragedy.

Never let a crisis go to waste

Phatscotty wrote:Obama is about to put on the performance of his life. The entire country is very emotional right now, and that is Obama's specialty. He is going to gather all the emotions and feelings and manipulate them to push his gun agenda that won't solve anything (a lot like raising taxes on the rich), but it will make people feel better, on the inside. There is nothing wrong with that, a good President should help with the healing process. But Obama probably doesn't even care about the kids that were killed, as none of the kids "look like him". He will start off strong, but watch that turn into a complete exploitation of the tragedy.

Never let a crisis go to waste

Possibly the nastiest thing I've seen you write, PS. Apart from the obvious- Obama isn't exactly known for showing his emotional side, the man has two young kids.

That this tragedy hit home for him doesn't seem manipulative.

Phatscotty wrote:Obama is about to put on the performance of his life. The entire country is very emotional right now, and that is Obama's specialty. He is going to gather all the emotions and feelings and manipulate them to push his gun agenda that won't solve anything (a lot like raising taxes on the rich), but it will make people feel better, on the inside. There is nothing wrong with that, a good President should help with the healing process. But Obama probably doesn't even care about the kids that were killed, as none of the kids "look like him". He will start off strong, but watch that turn into a complete exploitation of the tragedy.

Never let a crisis go to waste

You are an imbecile, sir. And I am being cordial about it.

Seriously? You really think Obama doesn't care? And not only that, but to not care because the children didn't "look like him"? What conservative kool aid are you drinking these days?

CreepersWiener wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:Obama is about to put on the performance of his life. The entire country is very emotional right now, and that is Obama's specialty. He is going to gather all the emotions and feelings and manipulate them to push his gun agenda that won't solve anything (a lot like raising taxes on the rich), but it will make people feel better, on the inside. There is nothing wrong with that, a good President should help with the healing process. But Obama probably doesn't even care about the kids that were killed, as none of the kids "look like him". He will start off strong, but watch that turn into a complete exploitation of the tragedy.

Never let a crisis go to waste

You are an imbecile, sir. And I am being cordial about it.

Seriously? You really think Obama doesn't care? And not only that, but to not care because the children didn't "look like him"? What conservative kool aid are you drinking these days?

I think he cares more about his agenda. Just look at crises in the past, and how Obama reacted. Like after the Arizona shooting, Obama invited the president of Mexico to speak to a joint session of Congress, and the President of Mexico went on to talk about how the shooting was caused by racism, and how Arizona is dumb, and how guns are bad....basically, he blamed everyone and everything EXCEPT FOR THE MURDERER. In the Trayvon Martin case, Obama did not use his power to calm people down and help the healing process, he used his power to divide the country even further, race-bait, and push the Progressive agenda of social justice...not true justice.

Close your eyes for one second, pretend George Bush is the President and about to give this speech, and maybe you can understand. It's no different

If justice is not social (based on society's standards) then on what standards is it built?

crispybits wrote:If justice is not social (based on society's standards) then on what standards is it built?

Justice is justice. Social justice is a certain kind of justice, and it's not based on "society's standards". It's based on a perversion of justice, otherwise there would be no need to call it "social". Obviously, social justice is not justice, it's justice with a slant, and it's a deeply Progressive slant

pimpdave wrote:Do you guys think Alex Jones is right?

It is very hard to say that what Obama did was a nervous reaction; but he has a point that this is not tear related; the basic drain for tears is on the side of the eye that is towards the nose and a real tear would cause you to run that area first, not the other side of the eye. One still cannot rule out a nervous tic type reaction. Anyone with young children cannot help but to be somewhat emotional on news like this.

Well, if it was Glenn Beck, then for sure it's fake tears! Since it's Obama, the tears are real, and we will attack anyone who even dares to say the tears from our beloved leader are fake! OOOOH!!!!

It's as simple as this. For the Left, if they like the person crying, the tears are real. If they don't like the person crying (even over the exact same thing) then they are a phony and are to be mocked for years and years and years...

Phatscotty wrote:Well, if it was Glenn Beck, then for sure it's fake tears! Since it's Obama, the tears are real, and we will attack anyone who even dares to say the tears from our beloved leader are fake! OOOOH!!!!

It's as simple as this. For the Left, if they like the person crying, the tears are real. If they don't like the person crying (even over the exact same thing) then they are a phony and are to be mocked for years and years and years...

I think you may have over-played your hand here.

Phatscotty wrote:Obama is about to put on the performance of his life. The entire country is very emotional right now, and that is Obama's specialty. He is going to gather all the emotions and feelings and manipulate them to push his gun agenda that won't solve anything (a lot like raising taxes on the rich), but it will make people feel better, on the inside. There is nothing wrong with that, a good President should help with the healing process. But Obama probably doesn't even care about the kids that were killed, as none of the kids "look like him". He will start off strong, saying all the right things that the speech writers give him to say (while getting all the credit for being so brilliant) but watch that turn into a complete exploitation of the tragedy.

Never let a crisis go to waste

Yeah, people called this post low, people called you an imbecile. The people are entirely right on this.

Firstly, well-done on the lack of empathy and assuming Obama doesn't care. Well done on the subtle racism and thinking that just because the kids might not "look like him", everyone can read what you meant, he is hurt by this tragedy and can empathise. Very much unlike you it seems.

Secondly you paranoid f*ck. This is not even the first time that a mass shooting has occured during Obama's presidency. It has happened time and time(and time) again. And after each tragedy both the Repubican and Democrat leaders wring their hands, avoid the trigger-happy elephant in the room and do nothing for gun rights. I doubt this would be different and I'm not sure why you're so paranoid. I wish Obama would finally take action, but he's had opportunities to act on gun rights before.

Thirdly, as well as a startling lack of empathy and paranoia, there's some great hypocrisy to boot. Not sure if you've even left the forum since the tragedy. You've been posturing to eliminate gun free zones, arguing that we should arm teachers, politically manipulating this tragedy yourself. Obama hasn't said or argued anything yet, you've hardly stopped using this tragedy.


I think you've long lost touch with actual reality, and what's actually occuring.

I never thought Glenn's tears were fake, just that he's a blubbering crybaby. What was he crying about again? Some histrionic bullshit about some ancient symbols showing Obama's a muslim, I'm guessing? Obama got choked up and wiped away a silent tear while addressing the slaying of 20 children. Big difference.

The speech he made tonight was fantastic. It will definitely be remembered by history. We're all so fortunate to have a President who strives to live as Jesus did.

Iliad wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:Obama is about to put on the performance of his life. The entire country is very emotional right now, and that is Obama's specialty. He is going to gather all the emotions and feelings and manipulate them to push his gun agenda that won't solve anything (a lot like raising taxes on the rich), but it will make people feel better, on the inside. There is nothing wrong with that, a good President should help with the healing process. But Obama probably doesn't even care about the kids that were killed, as none of the kids "look like him". He will start off strong, saying all the right things that the speech writers give him to say (while getting all the credit for being so brilliant) but watch that turn into a complete exploitation of the tragedy.

Never let a crisis go to waste

Yeah, people called this post low, people called you an imbecile. The people are entirely right on this.

Firstly, well-done on the lack of empathy and assuming Obama doesn't care. Well done on the subtle racism and thinking that just because the kids might not "look like him", everyone can read what you meant, he is hurt by this tragedy and can empathise. Very much unlike you it seems.

Secondly you paranoid f*ck. This is not even the first time that a mass shooting has occured during Obama's presidency. It has happened time and time(and time) again. And after each tragedy both the Repubican and Democrat leaders wring their hands, avoid the trigger-happy elephant in the room and do nothing for gun rights. I doubt this would be different and I'm not sure why you're so paranoid. I wish Obama would finally take action, but he's had opportunities to act on gun rights before.

Thirdly, as well as a startling lack of empathy and paranoia, there's some great hypocrisy to boot. Not sure if you've even left the forum since the tragedy. You've been posturing to eliminate gun free zones, arguing that we should arm teachers, politically manipulating this tragedy yourself. Obama hasn't said or argued anything yet, you've hardly stopped using this tragedy.
I think you've long lost touch with actual reality, and what's actually occuring.

An armed person is the only thing that an stop a mass murderer. Until you are someone else offers a better alternative, you are just banging your head against the wall in a fit of insanity, saying the same crap over and over again, but never even beginning to think about the issue, you just take it straight to insults. why are you so scared to get into substance?

Ummmm, Iliad? Those are Obama's words, not mine. Good luck trying to pin his words on me, in defense of him! You guys who keep taking the time to call me names and slander me, I take them all as compliments.

Politicians, expecially Barack Obama, George Bush...they don't give a shit! They are not going to put their agendas on hold because of a massacre...they are going to exploit the shit out of it. Just like Bill Clinton did on the day of the Columbine shootings. Wake the F up bro

Just one bit of advice for you. Eat out of the hands of a smooth-talking, rich fat-cat elitist Ivy-league educated flip-flopping silver tounged lawyer with political ambitions at your own peril. I don't know how long you have been on this earth, but you should know by now that at great times of emergency and mourning and death is when people are most vulnerable, and that is why we need to stay alert even more than before. 5 out of the top 10 massacres in US history have happened on Obama's watch, during just his first term. But the #1 reason I don't think Obama cares, is because of all the murders he has ordered in the past concerning drone strikes and secret CIA tortures and interrogations....yeah, people develop kind of a thick skin after a while....ya know?

Phatscotty wrote:Obama is about to put on the performance of his life. The entire country is very emotional right now, and that is Obama's specialty. He is going to gather all the emotions and feelings and manipulate them to push his gun agenda that won't solve anything (a lot like raising taxes on the rich), but it will make people feel better, on the inside. There is nothing wrong with that, a good President should help with the healing process. But Obama probably doesn't even care about the kids that were killed, as none of the kids "look like him". He will start off strong, saying all the right things that the speech writers give him to say (while getting all the credit for being so brilliant) but watch that turn into a complete exploitation of the tragedy.

Never let a crisis go to waste

A new low.